Found my lost corn snake after 12 years!!!!!!!
Discussion
ArtVandelay said:
But the snake didn't escape, so how do you know for certain that it could have easily escaped?
What if the snake had escaped and was killed by the cat? Would you be defending the owner of the snake or the cat in this instance?
If people are going to let their cats wonder, accidents will happen. As others have said, it could easily have been a car that killed it or even a dog, animals that are often left to enjoy themselves in their owners back garden (after all, it is their property)
I've read the articles What if the snake had escaped and was killed by the cat? Would you be defending the owner of the snake or the cat in this instance?
If people are going to let their cats wonder, accidents will happen. As others have said, it could easily have been a car that killed it or even a dog, animals that are often left to enjoy themselves in their owners back garden (after all, it is their property)
The owner wasn't in the garden with the snake and the garden wasn't secure.The snake should not have been let loose in the garden at all according to the RSPCA.
I'm not defending anyone
A cat is far more likely to kill a snake native to the UK than the snake kill the cat.The mere fact that the snake owner was prosecuted shows he was the one in the wrong. As Becks recalls, the owner has been in trouble over the snake since then as well.
THAT is what the petition was for, to ensure snakes are looked after properly.
308mate said:
But the snake didnt leave its owners garden and the owner did know where it was.
Im not on the side of either animal. Im on the side of whichever owner's pet was in its own garden, not the side of the pet owner who thinks the law should be changed to allow their animals to roam free with impunity from home owners or the rest of the food chain.
Y'see, no snake has ever pissed on my doorstep consistently, or shat in my flower bed, or kept me awake at night shagging/fighting, or run out in front of my car. A majority of cat owners believe I should accept a flower bed full of cat s
t, despite not actually owning a cat.
The onus is not on the part of the snake owner to protect an intruding cat.
The owner had left it in the garden, but sure as hell didn't know that it was still in the garden!Im not on the side of either animal. Im on the side of whichever owner's pet was in its own garden, not the side of the pet owner who thinks the law should be changed to allow their animals to roam free with impunity from home owners or the rest of the food chain.
Y'see, no snake has ever pissed on my doorstep consistently, or shat in my flower bed, or kept me awake at night shagging/fighting, or run out in front of my car. A majority of cat owners believe I should accept a flower bed full of cat s
t, despite not actually owning a cat.The onus is not on the part of the snake owner to protect an intruding cat.
That is still not what the petition was about
It was brought about as a result of that, but it is not what it is about.You must be very unlucky! I/my parents have never had any of those problem from local cats - foxes, and dogs but not cats.
My cats don't do that either
They come home to st in their litter tray 
ali_kat said:
I've read the articles The owner wasn't in the garden with the snake and the garden wasn't secure.
The snake should not have been let loose in the garden at all according to the RSPCA.
I'm not defending anyone A cat is far more likely to kill a snake native to the UK than the snake kill the cat.
The mere fact that the snake owner was prosecuted shows he was the one in the wrong. As Becks recalls, the owner has been in trouble over the snake since then as well.
THAT is what the petition was for, to ensure snakes are looked after properly.
come on Ali - this isn't your usual objective self .... The owner wasn't in the garden with the snake and the garden wasn't secure.The snake should not have been let loose in the garden at all according to the RSPCA.
I'm not defending anyone
A cat is far more likely to kill a snake native to the UK than the snake kill the cat.The mere fact that the snake owner was prosecuted shows he was the one in the wrong. As Becks recalls, the owner has been in trouble over the snake since then as well.
THAT is what the petition was for, to ensure snakes are looked after properly.
the 'article' says the garden wasn't secure.....pythons are pretty damn expensive to own and if the garden WASNT secure it likely would have escaped....i imagine it was fairly snake escape proof.
Im afraid my larger python, Alice, killed and ate a neighbours cat when I was at Uni (and it was only about 9 foot at the time). My housemates thought it was cute letting the neighbours cat into our house....and then wedged all the doors open one evening for a party. somehow the cat got into the tank..curiosity and all that. I love cats and felt hugely sorry and guilty about it - but it was the fault of the girls I lived with for not taking it seriously. had one of us kept a dog Im sure that wouldn't have happened......
I have little doubt he was reprimanded by the RSPCA because of what actually happened - rather than it being because having a snake in your own garden is specifically forbidden. and i'd bet a grand the cat investigated the snake and paid the price rather than being 'hunted down' in some way. My cat spent half its life trying to get into the snake tanks cos it was so excited by the concept of the long self-propelled ball of string it might be able to play with! the article doesnt say anyone was prosecuted does it?
and didnt Becks say the owner was in trouble with the law for something UNrelated?
I'm just fed up of all the anti cat rantsHereBeMonsters said:
hairykrishna said:
What an odd website. How is it snake mans fault? Would he be judged similarly harshly if he'd left a big dig 'unattended' in his own back garden?
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Davi said:
hairykrishna said:
HereBeMonsters said:
hairykrishna said:
What an odd website. How is it snake mans fault? Would he be judged similarly harshly if he'd left a big dig 'unattended' in his own back garden?
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Davi said:
V8ish said:
Just had to share this with someone!! Nothing to do with cars but thought you maybe interested??
When I was 14 I lost my corn snake, can't remember exactley how but you know how they are. I still have the number two (bought at the same time) and I'm now 26. Tuesday I got a call from my mum (where I was living at the time).
"Your not going to belive what I have just found in the Rockery!!"
I honestly had to drive straight to my parents to see if it was true! Sure enough there was sam sat there is a cool box, my mum had caught him and had got him in the kitchen. I was absolulty gob smacked that this snake had survived outside for 12 years and especially given the recent snow spell in the UK! His condition wasn't that bad with just a few scuffs and a bit of a light scab on his mouth although he nose was grazed. He wasn't as big as my current well fed snake although he was still a decent size.
Upon further investigation we concluded he had been living under the rocks around the rockery and had formed a section of tunnels - my dad had been putting rat poisen there for years thinking that was what was causing the smooth trackes in and out.
They have chickens near the pond and my dad had noticed occasionally an egg was smashed on the flor but assumed it was the chickens doing this - |I'm convinced it was sam along with teh occasional mouse of even gold fish from the pond????
After keeping him for two days I decided he was far two wild to go with my other snake;seth. he went for anything moving and was doing himself damage knocking his head on the glass I put over the top to cover the box. I gave him a mouse but he didnt want to eat. After much debate we decided to let him go again. The reason behind this was simple - he was now a wild snake and survived for 12 years (still cant get over that!) so would be totallu unfair to now put him in a box for the rest of his days. My parents are happy to let him help himself to an egg now and again and agree he must have kept the mice down. They even have some frozen mice to put by his tunnels every so often.
As soon as we put him within 10 feet of his home he went stright into his tunnels - he knew exactely where he was going!!
Just goes to show how tough these snakes are - I have complete resepct for him and hope to see him soon one day - WHAT A LEGEND!!!
Amazing story indeed.When I was 14 I lost my corn snake, can't remember exactley how but you know how they are. I still have the number two (bought at the same time) and I'm now 26. Tuesday I got a call from my mum (where I was living at the time).
"Your not going to belive what I have just found in the Rockery!!"
I honestly had to drive straight to my parents to see if it was true! Sure enough there was sam sat there is a cool box, my mum had caught him and had got him in the kitchen. I was absolulty gob smacked that this snake had survived outside for 12 years and especially given the recent snow spell in the UK! His condition wasn't that bad with just a few scuffs and a bit of a light scab on his mouth although he nose was grazed. He wasn't as big as my current well fed snake although he was still a decent size.
Upon further investigation we concluded he had been living under the rocks around the rockery and had formed a section of tunnels - my dad had been putting rat poisen there for years thinking that was what was causing the smooth trackes in and out.
They have chickens near the pond and my dad had noticed occasionally an egg was smashed on the flor but assumed it was the chickens doing this - |I'm convinced it was sam along with teh occasional mouse of even gold fish from the pond????
After keeping him for two days I decided he was far two wild to go with my other snake;seth. he went for anything moving and was doing himself damage knocking his head on the glass I put over the top to cover the box. I gave him a mouse but he didnt want to eat. After much debate we decided to let him go again. The reason behind this was simple - he was now a wild snake and survived for 12 years (still cant get over that!) so would be totallu unfair to now put him in a box for the rest of his days. My parents are happy to let him help himself to an egg now and again and agree he must have kept the mice down. They even have some frozen mice to put by his tunnels every so often.
As soon as we put him within 10 feet of his home he went stright into his tunnels - he knew exactely where he was going!!
Just goes to show how tough these snakes are - I have complete resepct for him and hope to see him soon one day - WHAT A LEGEND!!!
Edited by V8ish on Monday 29th March 20:51
I read about a guy who thought his Japanese Weather Loach that he kept in his pond
had died. 6 years later when he drained his pond to repair a leak the Loach was found alive!
Your story beats that one by 100%
Killer2005 said:
I've been away for the weekend and left my parents to keep an eye on my corn snake. I've got up this morning to find she's escaped at some point and I'm now turning my room upside down in an attempt to find her, although I don't fancy my chances.
How did the snake know that you'd be away?Blib said:
Killer2005 said:
I've been away for the weekend and left my parents to keep an eye on my corn snake. I've got up this morning to find she's escaped at some point and I'm now turning my room upside down in an attempt to find her, although I don't fancy my chances.
How did the snake know that you'd be away?Killer2005 said:
I've been away for the weekend and left my parents to keep an eye on my corn snake. I've got up this morning to find she's escaped at some point and I'm now turning my room upside down in an attempt to find her, although I don't fancy my chances.
Sounds like she read this thread and found out there is an ambitious, feisty and single boy corn snake in Yorkshire whos busted out and is going it alone. She'll be on a coach by now, headed his way.This is how it starts see.....
We'll be overrun with them soon
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