Flying economy

Poll: Flying economy

Total Members Polled: 214

OK up to 4 hours: 32%
OK up to 8 hours: 10%
OK irrespective of journey: 47%
What's economy?: 11%
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Mattt

16,661 posts

219 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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I try to avoid US carriers if at all possible, the whole 'experience' is woeful compared to the 'newer' airlines.

Same for BA, who trot out the old dinosaur cabin crew, who while more competent than a lot of the younger crews are much more miserable!

johnfm

13,668 posts

251 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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If flying longhaul, I would rather break the trip into two legs and spend a night in a 5* hotel for an extra £500 a night rather than spend an extra £2k+ to sleep on a plane.

Otispunkmeyer

12,611 posts

156 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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I went to Australia once. Short notice ( ie the very next day, via Zurich as I had to go to Baden as well). Economy all the way, cost the thick end of 4k and I was in Melbourne a grand total of 27 hours.

I was Ill for two weeks after that trip. I was so flogged on the way back that I actually slept in economy on an airbus A340. My experience of airbus seats are that they have st lumbar support and seat squabs that are too short and tilt forward so you get no leg support. The definition of fking uncomfortable.

On the way there from Dubai I was surrounded by sweaty Arabs. The BO off the guy next to me....wow, you could taste it. It burned your eyes. Absolutely horrid for 13 hours.

Otispunkmeyer

12,611 posts

156 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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jdwoodbury said:
I did 130,000 air miles last year all in economy, I actually find that lack of in-flight entertainment more of a concern in this class than the seat proportions. Travel inside domestic US and Business or First is actually pretty pointless (as it also is in Europe). I am Gold Star Alliance so get lounge and all the other benefits (which is worth it), I have done so much travel now 11hrs seems like a short hop so I think you get 'conditioned' after a while.

Choose your airline wisely and econmomy can still be good, of all the carriers I have used I found Singapore Airlines to be one of the best for economy. I look for routes with newer planes, problem is that mostly I use United (travel in US) and they have a nastly habit of swapping aircraft (especially out of LHR).
I used JetBlue to get from NYC to Boston. Their aircraft had a ridiculous amount of leg room on all seats and it was a nice aircraft (embraer). For the price that is probably the most comfortable I have been on an aircraft. Having Long legs is no good for economy

tezzer

983 posts

187 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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No No and thrice No. I must do a gazillion miles on business every year, this week it's the Caribbean, next week the Far East, the week after that it's Portugal, and then back to the caribbean for a week.

If I were to do that in economy, I would, without doubt die. Sleep depravation, and the ever present threat of DVT would get me, or my blood pressure would, putting up with screaming infants, and chav scum.

Much better to sit up the front, and put up with supercilious, self centred business men, full of their own importance.

Like me.

You get a better class of scumbag up front.

Seriously though the ability to get some sleep on a tight schedule, and be able to operate within 8 hours of getting to your destination is important, surely ?

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Otispunkmeyer said:
I went to Australia once. Short notice ( ie the very next day, via Zurich as I had to go to Baden as well). Economy all the way, cost the thick end of 4k and I was in Melbourne a grand total of 27 hours.
That's unlucky - a mate of mine did the same and the only seat available was in first! Price on the ticket was £12K (he works for the Government and doesn't think they actually pay that).

Interestingly, when he's flying normally, the ticket is economy, but he always (literally always) gets upgraded. When he went on honeymoon he booked the flight tickets through the agency they use and both he and his new wife got upgraded both ways.

whoami

13,151 posts

241 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Deva Link said:
Otispunkmeyer said:
I went to Australia once. Short notice ( ie the very next day, via Zurich as I had to go to Baden as well). Economy all the way, cost the thick end of 4k and I was in Melbourne a grand total of 27 hours.
That's unlucky - a mate of mine did the same and the only seat available was in first! Price on the ticket was £12K (he works for the Government and doesn't think they actually pay that).

Interestingly, when he's flying normally, the ticket is economy, but he always (literally always) gets upgraded. When he went on honeymoon he booked the flight tickets through the agency they use and both he and his new wife got upgraded both ways.
He always gets upgraded?

hyperblue

2,802 posts

181 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Deva Link said:
That's unlucky - a mate of mine did the same and the only seat available was in first! Price on the ticket was £12K (he works for the Government and doesn't think they actually pay that).

Interestingly, when he's flying normally, the ticket is economy, but he always (literally always) gets upgraded. When he went on honeymoon he booked the flight tickets through the agency they use and both he and his new wife got upgraded both ways.
You could post about your mate here - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Matt Harper

6,621 posts

202 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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If business does not check-in full, I pretty much always get upgraded on Delta, US Airways, United and AirTran for in US trips (not OUS). The type of coach ticket purchased (i.e. not cheapest, non-refundable ticket) and intergalactic status influences your upgradability quite significantly.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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hyperblue said:
You could post about your mate here - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
So do you think when he said he was James Bond then that might not be true either?


Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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whoami said:
He always gets upgraded?
It was always last time he spoke about it. He flies in Europe 3 or 4 times a year and to the US a couple of times per year. I assumed it's to do with the agency the Government uses as they must spend a lot on travel.

I work with a guy who used to work for a very large multi-national company which had people charging about all over the place and he said they got upgraded 4 out 5 flights if they booked through the firm's travel agent.

Matt Harper

6,621 posts

202 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Can't speak for American, because I don't have a pile of status with them, but I fly on US domestic carriers pretty much every day and I'm pretty sure it's not purely down to me being 'lucky'.
Last week, I flew Orlando to Dallas on AA (G class coach tix) - no upgrade. Dallas to Philadelphia on US (upgraded) Philadelphia to Detroit on Delta (upgraded) Detroit to Indianapolis on Delta (upgraded) and Indy back to Orlando, via Atlanta on AirTran (upgraded on both legs) - all of these ended-up being full flights.
Flew back to Indy last night on another full AirTran flight - upgraded, as usual.
If this is me being lucky, I need to start buying Lotto tickets.
These are not upgrades at the gate - my on-line check-in is when I'm bumped-up.

Matt Harper

6,621 posts

202 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Sorry for the misunderstanding - though I did state in US vs OUS travel. My point was really to suggest that routine upgrading is not beyond the realm of reality - it happens to me and lots of other freq flyers every day - routine, as you say...

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Matt Harper said:
These are not upgrades at the gate - my on-line check-in is when I'm bumped-up.
I guess the airlines know what they're doing, but it seems odd to bump people in advance when they might be able to seel a business class seat at full price.