Thieving flight prices.

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LuS1fer

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41,140 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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I've had about a t*tful of airlines during the summer holidays.

How ridiculous is this?
Last two weeks in August - fly for 2 weeks to Mallorca - £1144 for 5 of us. Fly for ONE week - either one - and the flights go up to over £2700. Similar story for Malaga. So it's actually cheaper to go for 2 weeks with the cost of the additional week in a villa but regrettably, my son has an unchangeable hospital appointment during the first week. Grrrr....

They're all at it and, at this rate, I won't be paying their ransom. Why can't they just charge a single fixed price and stop p*ssing off travellers by changing the prices every day?

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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Parent tax.

One of the things people without kids that forget about whilst complaining that they're subsidising other people's offspring. Yes, we're subsidising your holidays.

LuS1fer

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41,140 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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Maybe but we fill the planes and all the flights above are in the school holidays. I could understand it if any part of it were outside.
We had a holiday two weeks ago at what I would class as reasonable rates and the plane was still not full.

I would be far happier having a fixed price somewhere between the two but there is nothing more infuriating than finding a flight for, let's say £1300 and the following day sorting some accommodation, going back to book flights and wallop, £200, £300, £400 more overnight. If that doesn't irk any reasonable buyer and make them think "F*ck it", I don't know what will.

thehawk

9,335 posts

208 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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Another person who is unable to grasp the concept of supply and demand.

LuS1fer

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Thursday 16th May 2013
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thehawk said:
Another person who is unable to grasp the concept of supply and demand.
Perfectly able to grasp it but demand would likely be greater if they stopped moving the goalposts - mind you, I'm sure you're far more clever because you can compose a trite sentence without making any selling mistakes. Well done. rolleyes

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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LuS1fer said:
Last two weeks in August - fly for 2 weeks to Mallorca - £1144 for 5 of us. Fly for ONE week - either one - and the flights go up to over £2700. Similar story for Malaga. So it's actually cheaper to go for 2 weeks
It's hard to imagine what the logic in that is.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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Rather than complaining about how expensive it is for 1 week, how about be chuffed at how cheap it is for 2 weeks, and go for a fortnight!

LuS1fer

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Thursday 16th May 2013
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TheHeretic said:
Rather than complaining about how expensive it is for 1 week, how about be chuffed at how cheap it is for 2 weeks, and go for a fortnight!
Because I read my post and you obviously didn't?

thehawk

9,335 posts

208 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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LuS1fer said:
Perfectly able to grasp it but demand would likely be greater if they stopped moving the goalposts
So you are saying airlines deliberately let seats go unsold just to spite parents by jacking up prices over school holidays?

Not because they hire pretty smart people to forecast demand and constantly monitor and adjust ticket prices to ensure optimal revenue and loading?

thehawk

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208 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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Deva Link said:
It's hard to imagine what the logic in that is.
It's simply the fact those flights at the particular time are more expensive because they will be in greater demand.

It's the same logic as flying over Xmas - fly 2 weeks over Xmas and New Year and you pay a premium, fly for 4 weeks and you'll probably halve your ticket costs.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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thehawk said:
It's simply the fact those flights at the particular time are more expensive because they will be in greater demand.

It's the same logic as flying over Xmas - fly 2 weeks over Xmas and New Year and you pay a premium, fly for 4 weeks and you'll probably halve your ticket costs.
Is it that you didn't read the OP, or that you didn't understand it?

thehawk

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Thursday 16th May 2013
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Deva Link said:
Is it that you didn't read the OP, or that you didn't understand it?
Guessing English isn't your first language.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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thehawk said:
Guessing English isn't your first language.
He was talking about taking individual weeks from the same fortnight at the end of August.

The comparison with 2 weeks or 4 weeks at Christmas makes no sense - 4 weeks completely bridges Christmas.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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LuS1fer said:
Because I read my post and you obviously didn't?
It was tongue in cheek, fret not Beelzebub. You may now carry on being ever so serious. Either pay for the week or do something else.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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Deva Link said:
He was talking about taking individual weeks from the same fortnight at the end of August.

The comparison with 2 weeks or 4 weeks at Christmas makes no sense - 4 weeks completely bridges Christmas.
Flights in the middle of the fortnight are more expensive and/or they want to incentivise you to go for 2 weeks.

"Simples".

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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simoid said:
Flights in the middle of the fortnight are more expensive and/or they want to incentivise you to go for 2 weeks.

"Simples".
That would make sense if there was accommodation involved, but it doesn't for flights only.

Gaffer

7,156 posts

278 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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I have noticed that flights costs have gone right up over the last year.

I had a man-dxb-man flight and it was about 450 gbp, same flight this year and its nearly 700 gbp.
If i book from dxb-man-dxb the cost is even higher.

Its ridic...

Claire

LuS1fer

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41,140 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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thehawk said:
So you are saying airlines deliberately let seats go unsold just to spite parents by jacking up prices over school holidays?

Not because they hire pretty smart people to forecast demand and constantly monitor and adjust ticket prices to ensure optimal revenue and loading?
I understand prices are higher in school holidays but here's the thing:
One week at a mid price and they fill 5 seats. Changing and increasing the prices every day means they lose 5 fares altogether and because I can see they are offering the same flights for half the price in the same period, I'm already crossing them off my list for this holiday and every other holiday.

My point is fairly simple and basic - every other commodity like cars are sold at a fixed price. They may get discounted at certain times but you always know what you're paying. As I have tried to say, if on Friday, you see a price for 5 fares you are willing to pay then if that goes up several hundred pounds for no apparent reason, you're not going to be willing to pay.

You can argue all you like that by jacking up prices to what the market will bear, they are optimising profit but, at that point, they've already lost 5 fares and if they don't find bums to put on those seats, they may end up having to reduce the prices but will already have p*ssed off the person who will probably have booked elsewhere.

LuS1fer

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41,140 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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simoid said:
Flights in the middle of the fortnight are more expensive and/or they want to incentivise you to go for 2 weeks.

"Simples".
They're not in the middle of the fortnight, they are all Sunday flights and the same plane, same flight.

LeoSayer

7,308 posts

245 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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What happens to the price if you try to book the outbound flight separately to the return flight?