Getting to Monaco avoiding France....

Getting to Monaco avoiding France....

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Bluebarge

4,519 posts

178 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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bad company said:
Outrageous! The French police actually expect people to abide by French law - disgusting!

Honestly mate, if you can see anything to object to in there you need your bumps felt. And your "boycott" of all things French is just risible. Get a grip fella.


bad company

18,582 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Bluebarge said:
bad company said:
Outrageous! The French police actually expect people to abide by French law - disgusting!

Honestly mate, if you can see anything to object to in there you need your bumps felt. And your "boycott" of all things French is just risible. Get a grip fella.
Of course the French police will uphold their laws but I cannot see how they can justify targeting foreign registered cars while being more lenient with their own.

I will spend my hard earned where and when I want thank you.

Amateurish

7,739 posts

222 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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bad company said:
Bluebarge said:
bad company said:
Outrageous! The French police actually expect people to abide by French law - disgusting!

Honestly mate, if you can see anything to object to in there you need your bumps felt. And your "boycott" of all things French is just risible. Get a grip fella.
Of course the French police will uphold their laws but I cannot see how they can justify targeting foreign registered cars while being more lenient with their own.

I will spend my hard earned where and when I want thank you.
I think it's a good idea, and wish the police would do it here. On the spot fines are the only way to ensure foreign registered vehicles pay up. You can't impose points on foreign registered vehicles, so if anything they are the ones getting more "lenient" treatment.

Davidonly

1,080 posts

193 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Gaspode said:
Davidonly said:
Roads are of great quality but being on UK plates and doing a sensible 90 mph can cause you a problem.
Eh? It's 750 miles from Calais to Genoa. If you were to do the whole stretch at 90 mph (not that one could, of course) it would take 8 hours 20 minutes. If on the other hand you were to do it at 85mph, which wouldn't cause you to have your collar felt by les Flics, it would take 8 hours 50 minutes.

Seems a bit daft to me to avoid the quickest and best route for the sake of backing off a tad on the loud pedal...
You are right. Mathematically. Its the principle. Why can't the authorities realise how marginal all this is and then THEY offer discretion..? The UK is actually more tolerant on MOST of the M-Way network and certainly not acting to entrap people on the scale of the French (Scammer vans excepted).

I have voted with my tyres. They did not used to behave this way and I want them to stop (The French 'Flics' I mean).

We (all free thinking adult drivers) should STOP putting up with this state sanctioned bullying. Where-ever we live. It my car, my journey and my life. I have never been 'killed to death' by driving at car at 100mph. The 'new French' approach is too bloody much.


Edited by Davidonly on Thursday 10th July 20:01

Gaspode

4,167 posts

196 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Davidonly said:
You are right. Mathematically. Its the principle. Why can't the authorities realise how marginal all this is and then THEY offer discretion..? The UK is actually more tolerant on MOST of the M-Way network and certainly not acting to entrap people on the scale of the French (Scammer vans excepted).

I have voted with my tyres. They did not used to behave this way and I want them to stop (The French 'Flics' I mean).

We (all free thinking adult drivers) should STOP putting up with this state sanctioned bullying. Where-ever we live. It my car, my journey and my life. I have never been 'killed to death' by driving at car at 100mph. The 'new French' approach is too bloody much.


Edited by Davidonly on Thursday 10th July 20:01
Personally, I love driving in France. I hardly ever use autoroutes, and hoon about to my heart's content on quiet country 'D' roads. The only times I see Gendarmes and speed traps, they usually give us a cheery wave. The French seem to love Morgans, and there's no need to do silly speeds to have fun driving them.

pete a

3,799 posts

184 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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TooMany2cvs said:
Syria, Sudan, several of the 'stans...
I hear Mogadishu is nice this time of the year, or if you don't fancy flying Woolwich can offer you 90% of the experience without the airfare....

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Surely the first step in avoiding driving in France is not to book a fking holiday in France?

heebeegeetee

28,743 posts

248 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Colonial said:
Surely the first step in avoiding driving in France is not to book a fking holiday in France?
You're missing out on great roads, great food, excellent service, great scenery and great weather though.

I've got to be honest, I'm not seeing anything wrong with any of the info or links posted on this thread. The brits took the piss for decades (I know I did) when it came to catching ferries, and the gendarmes seem to be saying is that now we're going to get done.

I simply don't believe anything that tells me that they will do people for travelling half-a-mile-an-hour over the limit.

The french did used to kill thousands per year more than us on their roads, and they did indeed used to drive flat-out everywhere, so I dont think we should blame them for doing something about it.

If you speed where it's busy or populated than you might get done, but there are just hundreds and hundreds - thousands maybe - of utterly deserted, wonderful roads where there are no police.

Remind yourselves of EVO's coty 13, and check out from 9 mins onwards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtZKV8087aE&in... Check out how much other traffic you see. I don't think you'll find any roads like these anywhere else within an easy, comfortable day's drive from Calais. I'd hate to not be able to go there anymore.

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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heebeegeetee said:
You're missing out on great roads, great food, excellent service, great scenery and great weather though.

I've got to be honest, I'm not seeing anything wrong with any of the info or links posted on this thread. The brits took the piss for decades (I know I did) when it came to catching ferries, and the gendarmes seem to be saying is that now we're going to get done.

I simply don't believe anything that tells me that they will do people for travelling half-a-mile-an-hour over the limit.

The french did used to kill thousands per year more than us on their roads, and they did indeed used to drive flat-out everywhere, so I dont think we should blame them for doing something about it.

If you speed where it's busy or populated than you might get done, but there are just hundreds and hundreds - thousands maybe - of utterly deserted, wonderful roads where there are no police.

Remind yourselves of EVO's coty 13, and check out from 9 mins onwards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtZKV8087aE&in... Check out how much other traffic you see. I don't think you'll find any roads like these anywhere else within an easy, comfortable day's drive from Calais. I'd hate to not be able to go there anymore.
Not disagreeing at all with France as a brilliant place.

Just wondering why you would not want to drive through a country - but book a holiday there. Which you will drive to. It just seems a bit... odd...

Adenauer

18,580 posts

236 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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What a bizarre thread. laugh

RicksAlfas

13,401 posts

244 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Colonial said:
Not disagreeing at all with France as a brilliant place.

Just wondering why you would not want to drive through a country - but book a holiday there. Which you will drive to. It just seems a bit... odd...
Exactement!

Blues

8,546 posts

219 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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I'm confused about this whole thing.
I drive down to Le Mans and a couple of times to Paris every year,.
In my (sad) experience, the French stop you for speeding and don't let you go until you have paid the fine, in cash, there and then (and perhaps confiscate your licence if they so choose)
As previously said, if you were flashed by a roadside camera just forget about it.
Under what circumstances were you issues with a fine that wasn't payable immediately?

heebeegeetee

28,743 posts

248 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Blues said:
I'm confused about this whole thing.
I drive down to Le Mans and a couple of times to Paris every year,.
In my (sad) experience, the French stop you for speeding and don't let you go until you have paid the fine, in cash, there and then (and perhaps confiscate your licence if they so choose)
As previously said, if you were flashed by a roadside camera just forget about it.
Under what circumstances were you issues with a fine that wasn't payable immediately?
Fwiw, as a lorry driver back in the 80's I was subject to the same thing throughout Europe. Not sure why its ever been different for anyone else.

bad company

18,582 posts

266 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Colonial said:
Not disagreeing at all with France as a brilliant place.

Just wondering why you would not want to drive through a country - but book a holiday there. Which you will drive to. It just seems a bit... odd...
Agree France is great but spoiled by some of its inhabitants.

Thought the op was going to Monaco?

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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bad company said:
Agree France is great but spoiled by some of its inhabitants.

Thought the op was going to Monaco?
I think the whole villa in the south of france and spending a week there and picking up wife and child from Nice indicates yes...

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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batmanreturns

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536 posts

269 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Wow! Lots of different thoughts out there!
I think i need to expand. When the original fines came in (i got caught going and coming back in the dark so never saw them!) i ignored them. What i'm more worried about is being pulled on the way down because i'm in a British car and then landing either a hefty fine (i can handle that) or having my car confiscated as i'll have all the gear for the trip in it and need to meet the wife and baby at the other end the following day.
I'm assuming it will just be a case of paying up if i get pulled? Does anyone know any different OR know if/when previous fines go away.

And to those who ask why i don't just pay it i've got no reference number to put into the website and when you call up they are their usual French selves and don't have a record and don't like helping!

I'm just trying to find out if i get pulled i'll get the fine or end up in the clink for the night as we have a child on oxygen and i can't afford to not collect them from the airport as by then her oxygen will be getting low until we get to our accommodation.
thanks

Geekman

2,863 posts

146 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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I'm very confused. You're saying you were caught in France in a UK reg car, were not pulled at the time, but have now received fines sent to your UK address accusing you of speeding in your UK car? If that's the case I've never heard of that happening before to anyone.

Amateurish

7,739 posts

222 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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If you are particularly worried about being stopped, why not just travel within the speed limit?

batmanreturns

Original Poster:

536 posts

269 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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I was caught in a French hire car not a UK one.

I've got no plans to speed but having been to france many times they like to pull a brit and check documents etc even if you are not speeding. What i'm trying to establish is if they do this to me and i flag up on their database can i just pay it there and then or will be get a more severe punishment? Also, when does a speeding fine 'drop off' their system if anyone knows?