Expat's - A little advice please

Expat's - A little advice please

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Munka01

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456 posts

139 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I moved to Sydney in July 2011 (26 at the time)on a 4 year visa after being offered a role in the head office for the Australian company I worked for in London.

Skip 3 and a bit years and I love my life here, fairly settled down with a lovely aussie, I enjoy my work, I love the lifestyle (not to mention the 9 month summers).

I now have the opportunity to either get permanent residency or renew my visa so I have the option rto stay here for the rest of my days.

BUT in the back of my head I never feel fully settled and can't quite imagine being 10,000 miles away from friends and family for the rest of my life.

My question is does this feeling ever go? or do you always yearn to one day go back 'home' and feel torn between two lives?

Here's a photo that pretty much sums up my spare time now


HotJambalaya

2,026 posts

180 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Its not like you can't change your mind down the line and come back to the uk? Given that, get the permanent residency and just be happy where you are for now.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

178 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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you don't have to give up your UK passport so where's the problem?

oilslick

903 posts

186 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I'd be going for PR, then if you ever did come home and realised you wanted to go back to Oz it'd make things an awful lot easier.

Matt Harper

6,618 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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oilslick said:
I'd be going for PR, then if you ever did come home and realised you wanted to go back to Oz it'd make things an awful lot easier.
But wouldn't that then constitute abandonment of PR status? It most certainly would here in the US.

In answer to the original question, it's probably quite dependent on the individuals sense of attachment. My work moved me from UK to the US and until that point I'd never lived anywhere other than England, but I don't think I ever felt any strong sense of commitment to the UK and I was not particularly patriotic. My work travel exposed me to a lot of other cultures and on reflection, I think I probably was starting to become a little disillusioned - this was in 2001.

When the opportunity arose to petition for permanent residence, I took it. I used to travel back and forth quite regularly with work and took my wife with me whenever practical - her sense of "Britishness" being a lot stronger than mine. Each time I went back to UK it felt less and less like home - I think I'd completely emotionally detached myself within a couple of years. It took my wife about 10 years.

I still visit UK to see family and friends, as a stepping-off point for Le Mans each year - and occasionally for work. However, I do feel it's quite 'foreign' to me now, other than that I'm fluent in the language.

Something would have to go horrendously wrong in my life to force me to return to the UK and reside there.

toohuge

3,434 posts

216 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Go for PR, it will keep your options open for you and any future family etc.

The US is very, very different to just about any country.

Australia is much for flexible.

Vipers

32,883 posts

228 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Are you nuts! get permanent resisdensy.

My daughter has been in Freshwater for 7 years now and loves it, and Manly beach is superb.

What I wouldnt give to shift over myself.




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Burrow01

1,806 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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If the Permanent Residency is on top of everything else its a no brainer - just go for this, it keeps all the options open.

Munka01

Original Poster:

456 posts

139 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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I will be getting PR (then citizenship after two years of PR) It would be silly not to.

Just wanted to know whether the feeling of not feeling fully settled in a country other than the UK ever goes away.

Matt's post above is most helpful. Would appreciate any other views.


MudwiG

283 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Munka01 said:
I will be getting PR (then citizenship after two years of PR) It would be silly not to.

Just wanted to know whether the feeling of not feeling fully settled in a country other than the UK ever goes away.

Matt's post above is most helpful. Would appreciate any other views.

I have been in Sydney for 5 1/2 years now and have my PR and am waiting for the Citizenship to come through. Yes it does get easier, went for a holiday in the UK recently and nothing had changed. You adapt and meet new people. i think your beach shot summed it up nicely!

Matt Harper

6,618 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Munka01 said:
I will be getting PR (then citizenship after two years of PR) It would be silly not to.

Just wanted to know whether the feeling of not feeling fully settled in a country other than the UK ever goes away.

Matt's post above is most helpful. Would appreciate any other views.

It is, of course, just my own personal perspective. I'm sure there are many expats who feel very differently to me.
I was (am) lucky. Moving gave me opportunities to improve my life and those of the people I'm responsible for, that would not have been attainable had I stayed put - I think.
But who knows - maybe I could have - I don't have a crystal ball. I do not have one millisecond of regret in emigrating though. It's not everyone's cup of tea and the grass isn't necessarily greener. But it was for me.
Good luck to you, whichever path you take.

Rich_AR

1,960 posts

204 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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I've been in Singapore almost 5 years and do not miss the UK at all. I've only been back twice for short reluctant visits!

Go for PR, it will make it easier to stay and return later after you made the mistake of leaving wink


YankeePorker

4,765 posts

241 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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If the place that you've emigrated to suits you and you enjoy the lifestyle, get residency and make the most of it! You'll still be a Brit, just one that's not living under the grey skies and rain of the UK.

When I left it was for France, where I spent 14 happy years. The visits back to the UK led me to the conclusion that all I really missed were family, good curry and proper beer. My friends had largely flown the coop too and weren't back in Blighty anyway, so that was certainly no reason to be wistful. Have since moved again and am now in Miami, where unfortunately I'm finding it hard to enjoy the place. Heat, humidity and mozzies are not my idea of fun, so will be looking to move again as this school year progresses, hopefully to somewhere that's not as flat as a witch's tit!

Despite how I feel about Florida, getting the green card was the logical step, as it (or the Ozzie equivalent) should be for you. It gives you options and it's not irrevocable.

Probably the hardest part is ageing parents back in the UK far from their grandchildren - to that I have no answer other than internet comms and occasional Christmases back there with them.

smack

9,729 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Get your PR. You never know what is going to happen in life, and it gives you, and any children you have at a later date options (passport in that case).