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Cyder

7,053 posts

220 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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SlackBladder said:
BrabusMog said:
//j17 said:
I've never got the standing up thing either - but do enjoy just standing up and throwing myself in to the aisle when movement gets to my row, but then I'm a bit of a git who doesn't see why the fact you stood up 5 minutes before the doors opened should give you any form of priority.
Really? Do you also just decide where you should join a queue, as people that have been standing in it for 5 minutes before being served don't have any form of priority?
Surely the queue starts the minute you sit down, as in row 25 is in front of row 26 irrelevant of whether you're sitting or standing? Or do you suggest that as you stand up you walk to the back of the plane and then join the back of the queue?
That's how it's worked on every flight I've ever been on. Always the people in row 26 let the people in row 25 off before them (assuming we're disembarking from the front of course). I've never seen a flight let all of the people queuing in the aisle off first then everyone still sat down afterwards.

thehawk

9,335 posts

207 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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benters said:
Why people are in a hurry is beyond me given that the plane has be unloaded and typically most have baggage to reclaim too.
Many people travel with only hand luggage and also have connections to make. Still, we are probably only talking magnitudes of minutes here.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Muzzer79 said:
3. First off the plane means first into Passport control means first out of the terminal and home. **


  • or first in the 1 hour queue to get into my own country. Yes Stanstead Manchester Airport, I'm looking at you
Fixed for you, How surprising they are owned by the same company/council.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Wind. They have been holding it all flight........

OscarIndia

1,128 posts

172 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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I get up as soon as the seat bely light is off. I am 6 foot 4 and have really long legs, legroom on the flights I take is terrible, so it is just for relief and to stretch my legs out.

Shaoxter

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4,080 posts

124 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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OscarIndia said:
I get up as soon as the seat bely light is off. I am 6 foot 4 and have really long legs, legroom on the flights I take is terrible, so it is just for relief and to stretch my legs out.
What about the people who stand up in seats A and H even though they have no headroom and can't even get their bags?

Butter Face

30,312 posts

160 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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I don't get the people who rush to queue to get on the plane as soon as boarding starts. The plane won't be going anywhere.

My wife and I are the last people to leave the lounge to get on the plane and the last people to get back off it. Holidays aren't for rushing!!

Supernova190188

903 posts

139 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Butter Face said:
I don't get the people who rush to queue to get on the plane as soon as boarding starts. The plane won't be going anywhere.

My wife and I are the last people to leave the lounge to get on the plane and the last people to get back off it. Holidays aren't for rushing!!
Just what I was about to write , they all queue around the monitors and rush to get on the plane - why ?
you already have seats reserved and you'll only be sat there for 45 mins before the plane actually goes anywhere. I'd much prefer to be sat in the lounge than spend longer than I need to in a plane seat.

tvrolet

4,275 posts

282 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Shaoxter said:
Stand up as soon as the plane has landed and seatbelt light has been switched off?? Unless you sprint down the aisle as before other people have reacted, you're not getting off the plane any quicker.
Ohhh...touched a nerve there. mad If they're in an aisle seat, it's because they're not selfish twunts and they're allowing the middle and window seat passengers to get their coats, jackets and other items down from the lockers ready to get off, so they in turn don't block fellow passengers when the end of the 'queue' to get off reaches them. So while it makes no difference to the selfish smug git in the aisle seat whether they sit or get into the aisle, once they've got up and swanned off the folks in the window and aisle seats are then left struggling to either get their own stuff down and coats on in the now-moving aisle, blocking everyone else...or they're blocked in their row. So yes, it makes no different to the selfish traveller in the aisle seat, it sure as hell slows down everyone else.

Have a look at folks getting off a plane - it isn't a steady stream of passengers, it runs in fits and starts with a block of say 20 passengers then a gap. Then another group. Then another gap and so on. Look at the gaps and it's window/middle passengers trying to get their coats on/bags down having been blocked by a selfish aisle passenger. Get rid of the gaps and you speed up deplaning significantly.

Shaoxter said:
Normally I sit in my seat smugly while everyone else frantically tries to take their baggage from the lockers and hit eat other in the face with their backpacks. But on my latest flight the guy sitting next to me was insistent on getting out (I was in an aisle seat) and then proceeded to clatter me from behind several times as we were shuffling out of the plane. He didn't even seem to be in a rush after he'd got off the plane.
I would no doubt be just like that guy, wondering why you were being so ignorant...although I wouldn't be hanging about once I got off. I'm flying a couple of times most weeks and it's to get to work, not for a jolly. And even though I usually sit in the first few rows I like a window, and it's annoying for me to have to hold other folks up getting my stuff down just because someone was too selfish to move...as was the case yesterday - me 3F, selfish bloke in 3D mad

Let me try to explain it this way. Lets say you're sitting at the traffic lights and they turn green. The car in front faffs about and only drives off (perfectly calmly) as they switch to amber. The smug guy in front who's held you up drives off happily in the distance, probably unaware that you're now stuck at a red light. OK, so you can go on the next green...it's not the end of the world; no kittens were harmed. But think hard about how you would feel about the guy who has held you up at traffic lights. THAT'S the level of contempt that your fellow middle/window passengers hold you in, as you sit there 'smugly'.

Mark-C

5,097 posts

205 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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jmorgan said:
Wind. They have been holding it all flight........
Sadly not true of the woman sat next to me flying back from Palma on Sunday hurl

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Mark-C said:
jmorgan said:
Wind. They have been holding it all flight........
Sadly not true of the woman sat next to me flying back from Palma on Sunday hurl
The ones that sleep let them escape...... I was in stitches on one flight (I cannot sleep on a plane), it was almost like blazing saddles.

Shaoxter

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4,080 posts

124 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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tvrolet said:
Ohhh...touched a nerve there. mad If they're in an aisle seat, it's because they're not selfish twunts and they're allowing the middle and window seat passengers to get their coats, jackets and other items down from the lockers ready to get off, so they in turn don't block fellow passengers when the end of the 'queue' to get off reaches them. So while it makes no difference to the selfish smug git in the aisle seat whether they sit or get into the aisle, once they've got up and swanned off the folks in the window and aisle seats are then left struggling to either get their own stuff down and coats on in the now-moving aisle, blocking everyone else...or they're blocked in their row. So yes, it makes no different to the selfish traveller in the aisle seat, it sure as hell slows down everyone else.

Have a look at folks getting off a plane - it isn't a steady stream of passengers, it runs in fits and starts with a block of say 20 passengers then a gap. Then another group. Then another gap and so on. Look at the gaps and it's window/middle passengers trying to get their coats on/bags down having been blocked by a selfish aisle passenger. Get rid of the gaps and you speed up deplaning significantly.
Ok, but why do you have to stand up and get your baggage as soon as the plane docks? The result would be the same if everyone waited for another 5 mins for the doors to actually open.

Also, stop carrying so much crap to put in the overhead lockers!!

tvrolet

4,275 posts

282 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Shaoxter said:
tvrolet said:
Ohhh...touched a nerve there. mad If they're in an aisle seat, it's because they're not selfish twunts and they're allowing the middle and window seat passengers to get their coats, jackets and other items down from the lockers ready to get off, so they in turn don't block fellow passengers when the end of the 'queue' to get off reaches them. So while it makes no difference to the selfish smug git in the aisle seat whether they sit or get into the aisle, once they've got up and swanned off the folks in the window and aisle seats are then left struggling to either get their own stuff down and coats on in the now-moving aisle, blocking everyone else...or they're blocked in their row. So yes, it makes no different to the selfish traveller in the aisle seat, it sure as hell slows down everyone else.

Have a look at folks getting off a plane - it isn't a steady stream of passengers, it runs in fits and starts with a block of say 20 passengers then a gap. Then another group. Then another gap and so on. Look at the gaps and it's window/middle passengers trying to get their coats on/bags down having been blocked by a selfish aisle passenger. Get rid of the gaps and you speed up deplaning significantly.
Ok, but why do you have to stand up and get your baggage as soon as the plane docks? The result would be the same if everyone waited for another 5 mins for the doors to actually open.

Also, stop carrying so much crap to put in the overhead lockers!!
Doesn't have to be 'as soon as the plane docks', but it does have to be sufficiently early to get jacket on and bag ready to lift down when the end of the queue reaches the row.

'So much crap' - as I said I travel by air every week, usually away from home 2 or 3 days. I have a single regulation sized wheely-bag (I don't carry a separate laptop bag) and I always stow my jacket and coat if I have one. Another pet hate is folks wearing heavy jackets or coats taking up already limited elbow room. I think what you have is the difference between folks using air-transport as a necessary evil as part of their job who just want to get on and off as quickly as possible, and folks out for a jolly.

All bit bit like a daily road commute where you just want to get the journey over with, and you get behind someone on their holidays pootling along and enjoying the view. If you want to sit, wait and enjoy the view - absolutely fine - but please get a window seat.

LeoSayer

7,307 posts

244 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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BrabusMog said:
//j17 said:
I've never got the standing up thing either - but do enjoy just standing up and throwing myself in to the aisle when movement gets to my row, but then I'm a bit of a git who doesn't see why the fact you stood up 5 minutes before the doors opened should give you any form of priority.
Really? Do you also just decide where you should join a queue, as people that have been standing in it for 5 minutes before being served don't have any form of priority?
It's hardly the same thing.

Why does standing up give you rights to get off the plane earlier?

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Behaviour on airlines is a constant source of mild amusement to me. Especially those who rush to get on the plane, queue etc...it's not going without you!

//j17

4,482 posts

223 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Cyder said:
SlackBladder said:
BrabusMog said:
//j17 said:
I've never got the standing up thing either - but do enjoy just standing up and throwing myself in to the aisle when movement gets to my row, but then I'm a bit of a git who doesn't see why the fact you stood up 5 minutes before the doors opened should give you any form of priority.
Really? Do you also just decide where you should join a queue, as people that have been standing in it for 5 minutes before being served don't have any form of priority?
Surely the queue starts the minute you sit down, as in row 25 is in front of row 26 irrelevant of whether you're sitting or standing? Or do you suggest that as you stand up you walk to the back of the plane and then join the back of the queue?
That's how it's worked on every flight I've ever been on. Always the people in row 26 let the people in row 25 off before them (assuming we're disembarking from the front of course). I've never seen a flight let all of the people queuing in the aisle off first then everyone still sat down afterwards.
I've been on plenty of flights where people standing have done the opposite. Sure, if you're standing in the aisle next to row 25 you need to move so people can get up from row 25...but then the next standing person tailgates them...followed by the next.

skibum

1,032 posts

237 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Unless everyone else is already sat on the plane, belted in and ready to go and a few stragglers, who have caused the plane to miss it's slot, waltz up the aisle, normally chatting on their phone without a care in the world. Oblivious to the fact that they have caused an extra 30-40 minutes on the journey time....

JuniorD

8,627 posts

223 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Unless some or all the passengers get up once the seatbelt light is switched off, everyone would be still sitting there...for days possibly.


SimonV8ster

12,606 posts

228 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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God you're a miserable bunch of travellers !!

Glad i don't travel with you lot !! smile

Dog Star

16,137 posts

168 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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I don't get it either - because they then end up waiting 40 minutes for the baggage carousel, and that comes out in some totally random order.