Passport office, what a joke.

[JordanTurbo]

Still fuming 24hrs later!

Wife went up to Peterborough passport office yesterday to sort our 1 year old sons passport out on the fast track service. Only to be told that the doctor that has countersigned the application isn't good enough!

Apparently the person that has been the mother's GP for 5 years and the child's GP from birth does not know the applicant well enough to vouch for them. What the actual fk?!?

They spouted some st that "if the doctor was a friend or neighbour they would be able to do it." Where the fk this has come from I don't know! It's definatly not from the application guide or the informatiin sheet they gave my wife to leave with!

Surely the whole bloody point of the counter signature is that it should be someone detached from the applicant and less likly to help with a fraudulent application! Hence why it says they can't be a relative or partner.

I KNOW the doctor can do it! They signed my other child's application! And when asked why the doctors surgery advertise a signing service (which also cost £26 fking quid) the office had no comeback.

This farce came from the clerk and the manager after my wife asked to see them.

4hr round trip which now has to be done again next tuesday! What a fking joke!
Rant over!

Edited by JordanTurbo on Thursday 27th November 09:53

[steveo3002]

doctor signed my last one 10 years ago , it was the first time id been to the doctors in years and id never met them before

yeah its a joke alright

[Puggit]

I can understand your ire but...

https://www.gov.uk/countersigning-passport-applica... makes it clear

Gov web site said:

be able to identify the person applying, eg they’re a friend, neighbour or colleague (not just someone who knows them professionally)

And doctors are not in the list (but nurses are!).

Luckily in our 3 neighbouring houses we have a councillor, accountant and policeman

[soi6]

The Uk immigration ans passport office are staffed by complete idiots. Been through he whole immigration thing for 7 years and it proves why this country is a joke.
They hardly ever get "vetted" after authorising passports etc . None checks to see they have been done properly. Thats why most of them get nice little cash presents each month paid by "visa lawyers" the going rate paid to the immigration officer is £1900.

a few times a month is a very nice "pension"

next time, we will do it the easier way......illegal. Quicker and cheaper . they are a total bunch of corrupt idiots

[JordanTurbo]

Puggit said:

I can understand your ire but...

https://www.gov.uk/countersigning-passport-applica... makes it clear

Gov web site said:

be able to identify the person applying, eg they’re a friend, neighbour or colleague (not just someone who knows them professionally)

Cheers,

Also on the same page:

Gov web site said:

Last updated:17 November 2014

I'd be interested to know what it said before the 17th, I got the application countersigned on the 12th.

Puggit said:

And doctors are not in the list (but nurses are!).

Luckily in our 3 neighbouring houses we have a councillor, accountant and policeman

The list is of examples and is not exhaustive. A doctor is still 100% a "recognised profession".

[Chrisgr31]

soi6 said:

The Uk immigration ans passport office are staffed by complete idiots. Been through he whole immigration thing for 7 years and it proves why this country is a joke.
They hardly ever get "vetted" after authorising passports etc . None checks to see they have been done properly. Thats why most of them get nice little cash presents each month paid by "visa lawyers" the going rate paid to the immigration officer is £1900.

a few times a month is a very nice "pension"

next time, we will do it the easier way......illegal. Quicker and cheaper . they are a total bunch of corrupt idiots

If you have any proof on this I would report it to either the authorities or the media. The media would love to run with this.

[anonymous-user]

JordanTurbo said:

Still fuming 24hrs later!

Wife went up to Peterborough passport office yesterday to sort our 1 year old sons passport out on the fast track service. Only to be told that the doctor that has countersigned the application isn't good enough!

Apparently the person that has been the mother's GP for 5 years and the child's GP from birth does not know the applicant well enough to vouch for them. What the actual fk?!?

They spouted some st that "if the doctor was a friend or neighbour they would be able to do it." Where the fk this has come from I don't know! It's definatly not from the application guide or the informatiin sheet they gave my wife to leave with!

Surely the whole bloody point of the counter signature is that it should be someone detached from the applicant and less likly to help with a fraudulent application! Hence why it says they can't be a relative or partner.

I KNOW the doctor can do it! They signed my other child's application! And when asked why the doctors surgery advertise a signing service (which also cost £26 fking quid) the office had no comeback.

This farce came from the clerk and the manager after my wife asked to see them.

4hr round trip which now has to be done again next tuesday! What a fking joke!
Rant over!

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 27th November 09:53

Couldn't you just tell them the Doc is a friend?

[anonymous-user]

Chrisgr31 said:

soi6 said:

The Uk immigration ans passport office are staffed by complete idiots. Been through he whole immigration thing for 7 years and it proves why this country is a joke.
They hardly ever get "vetted" after authorising passports etc . None checks to see they have been done properly. Thats why most of them get nice little cash presents each month paid by "visa lawyers" the going rate paid to the immigration officer is £1900.

a few times a month is a very nice "pension"

next time, we will do it the easier way......illegal. Quicker and cheaper . they are a total bunch of corrupt idiots

If you have any proof on this I would report it to either the authorities or the media. The media would love to run with this.

When you say "proof" does that include "my mate down the pub who spouts this twaddle"?

[soi6]

Crossflow Kid said:

When you say "proof" does that include "my mate down the pub who spouts this twaddle"?

the media have written about it.


Crossflow. you need to get a life and grow up if you think this is lies.

[AMD87]

steveo3002 said:

doctor signed my last one 10 years ago , it was the first time id been to the doctors in years and id never met them before

yeah its a joke alright

Previously worked at the passport office and this was the problem.

Every so often applications were chosen at random and the vast a majority of the time the doctors had no idea who the person was in the picture.

People were just turning up at the doctors giving them a tenner and the doctors were signing them. Not very good for proving who someone is.

[JordanTurbo]

REALIST123 said:

Couldn't you just tell them the Doc is a friend?

On the form it asks how they know the applicant, the GP already wrote "patient" in that box.

Have now got a new application signed by the families officer at the camp I work at (I'm in the Army), and will be going back up to Peterborough on Tuesday.

[whoami]

soi6 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

When you say "proof" does that include "my mate down the pub who spouts this twaddle"?

the media have written about it.


Crossflow. you need to get a life and grow up if you think this is lies.

Where?

[mph1977]

AMD87 said:

steveo3002 said:

doctor signed my last one 10 years ago , it was the first time id been to the doctors in years and id never met them before

yeah its a joke alright

Previously worked at the passport office and this was the problem.

Every so often applications were chosen at random and the vast a majority of the time the doctors had no idea who the person was in the picture.

People were just turning up at the doctors giving them a tenner and the doctors were signing them. Not very good for proving who someone is.

hence the reason for de-emphasising Doctors in the listing; if you do know a Doc personally then great...

the text clarifying Nurse isn't brilliant it should really just say 'Registered Nurse' as an RGN or RMN appears on the same register as a Post P2k RN (adult) oir RN (mental health) , Child Branch post P2k / RSCN or a RN (learning disabilities) - and if an RN is good enough why not a Madwife ? As i assume the aim of the clarification to make sure it's a NMC Registered Nurse , not a HCA , dental nurse (although the GDC do maintain a register of Dental Nurses) or unqualified vet nurse ( as IIRC you don;t have to have a specific qualification - although those who do are damn good )...

I suspect that a HCPC registered Bod would also do (Paramedic/ Physio / ODP / OT etc etc)

Edited by mph1977 on Saturday 29th November 23:33

[soi6]

whoami said:

Where?

try a google search

jesus..some of you are stuck in the late 50's

[whoami]

soi6 said:

whoami said:

Where?

try a google search

jesus..some of you are stuck in the late 50's

I asked a perfectly civil question.

If you are unable to respond accordingly, or provide a link, I'm sure you'll understand why it's hard to take you seriously.

[JordanTurbo]

mph1977 said:

hence the reason for de-emphasising Doctors in the listing; if you do know a Doc personally then great...

the text clarifying Nurse isn't brilliant it should really just say 'Registered Nurse' as an RGN or RMN appears on the same register as a Post P2k RN (adult) oir RN (mental health) , Child Branch post P2k / RSCN or a RN (learning disabilities) - and if an RN is good enough why not a Madwife ? As i assume the aim of the clarificxation to make usre it;s a NMC Registered Nurse , not a HCA , dental nurse or unqualified vet nurse ...

I suspect that a HCP registered Bod would also do (Paramedic/ Physio / ODP / OT etc etc)

I have one of those

[anonymous-user]

whoami said:

soi6 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

When you say "proof" does that include "my mate down the pub who spouts this twaddle"?

the media have written about it.


Crossflow. you need to get a life and grow up if you think this is lies.

Where?

Seconded.
Where?
You really need to get a life and grow up if you believe the media more than your mate down the pub.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 30th November 09:03

[soi6]

[quote=Crossflow Kid]
Seconded.
Where?
You really need to get a life and grow up if you believe the media more than your mate down the pub.

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Sunday 30th November 09:03

[/quote

ok..have it your way . i don't have "mates in pub" i am not working class. I also happen to be surrounded by people working in the media /press and have more experience of the immigration service and immigration lawyers than you probably .

so ask your mummy to help you learn about life and how to find things out for yourself.

[anonymous-user]

soi6 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

When you say "proof" does that include "my mate down the pub who spouts this twaddle"?

the media have written about it.


Crossflow. you need to get a life and grow up if you think this is lies.

Well, I've had a look and can only find stuff about corruption in Malawi or Nigeria, which isn't a surprise.

Unless you can provide a link or some viable evidence, one has to think you are fabricating this for some reason.

[anonymous-user]

soi6 said:

I also happen to be surrounded by people working in the media /press and have more experience of the immigration service and immigration lawyers than you probably .

so ask your mummy to help you learn about life and how to find things out for yourself.

So you're that much of an expert and so worldy-wise you can't actually point us in the direction of your sensational passport office corruption scandal?
That's ok then, I believe you.
Anyway, I asked mum, and she said there's this bloke on Pistonheads who knows everything about the passport office, and what he doesn't know his media mates will know, so why not ask him as he seems to be the source of these rumours and allegations and is therefore the best person to say where the info has come from. Any idea who that might be?

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 30th November 09:18