BA Club bargains to Hawaii

[cashmax]

What about this - would they cancel the flights all the way through if we didn't turn up in Dublin. Since there is an airport change, we would have to check in again at HR on the outbound leg in any case.

[GT03ROB]

cashmax said:

What about this - would they cancel the flights all the way through if we didn't turn up in Dublin. Since there is an airport change, we would have to check in again at HR on the outbound leg in any case.

Yes if it's all on one booking

[anonymous-user]

Yes - if you didn't turn up in Dublin to take the first sector your entire ticket would be cancelled automatically. So don't miss that flight!

Assuming you're based in London/the SE and not Dublin: when I've done this, I've set it up so that the Dublin/Amsterdam to London leg is on day 1, and the first long haul sector is on day 2. As long as the flight are within 24 h of each other the price shouldn't be affected.

Then I take my "locator" flight to Dublin/Amsterdam on day 1, and either have a day trip there with a passport and a wallet and no luggage, or (if time is short) land, sit in the airport for an hour, and come back.

That way I get to spend the night of day 1 at home, and don't have to start lugging my hold luggage around until I set off for the airport on day 2.

Google flights is showing business class at £1184 for the following (matrix.itasoftware.com has it at £1181)
BA4469 15 Dec Dub to London City dep 19.50 arr 21.05
Your VS return LHR to MIA
BA4466 30 Dec City to Dublin dep 18.00 arr 19.15.
All to be booked through Virgin.
Any good?

For the same price you can have your first flight on 16 Dec from Dublin to Heathrow arriving at 8.25am. Quite a bit of time at LHR therefore, but an early start in Dublin. And you'd have to have your hold luggage in Dublin with you.

[cashmax]

Greg66 said:

Yes - if you didn't turn up in Dublin to take the first sector your entire ticket would be cancelled automatically. So don't miss that flight!

Assuming you're based in London/the SE and not Dublin: when I've done this, I've set it up so that the Dublin/Amsterdam to London leg is on day 1, and the first long haul sector is on day 2. As long as the flight are within 24 h of each other the price shouldn't be affected.

Then I take my "locator" flight to Dublin/Amsterdam on day 1, and either have a day trip there with a passport and a wallet and no luggage, or (if time is short) land, sit in the airport for an hour, and come back.

That way I get to spend the night of day 1 at home, and don't have to start lugging my hold luggage around until I set off for the airport on day 2.

Google flights is showing business class at £1184 for the following (matrix.itasoftware.com has it at £1181)
BA4469 15 Dec Dub to London City dep 19.50 arr 21.05
Your VS return LHR to MIA
BA4466 30 Dec City to Dublin dep 18.00 arr 19.15.
All to be booked through Virgin.
Any good?

For the same price you can have your first flight on 16 Dec from Dublin to Heathrow arriving at 8.25am. Quite a bit of time at LHR therefore, but an early start in Dublin. And you'd have to have your hold luggage in Dublin with you.

Thanks, yes thats the kind of thing. However I can't seem to replicate your search on Google flights. How did you manipulate the times to get the long layover?

[anonymous-user]

cashmax said:

Thanks, yes thats the kind of thing. However I can't seem to replicate your search on Google flights. How did you manipulate the times to get the long layover?

No magic: Select "Multicity" (not "Round trip") at the top
Put in flight 1 as Dublin to LCY and select the date as 15/12
Flight 2 is LHR to MIA on 16/12
Flight 3 is MIA to LHR on 29/12
Flight 4 is LCY to Dublin on 30/12

Then select the times of the flights you want. I'm guessing you're using "round trip", which is not producing overnight stopovers.

[tim0409]

Greg66 said:

Yes - if you didn't turn up in Dublin to take the first sector your entire ticket would be cancelled automatically. So don't miss that flight!

I'm in the process of looking at flights to Dublin (from EDI) to start our trip (DUB-LCY-JFK-MIA). The Dublin flight is 4pm; Ryanair fly from EDI at 8am (£20) or Air Lingus have a flight which get it at 1pm (£47) which would suit us as we don't want to get up too early just to wait in Dublin till 4pm. The problem is (as you correctly state) that if we miss the DUB-FLY we are in a bit of bother.

[anonymous-user]

tim0409 said:

I'm in the process of looking at flights to Dublin (from EDI) to start our trip (DUB-LCY-JFK-MIA). The Dublin flight is 4pm; Ryanair fly from EDI at 8am (£20) or Air Lingus have a flight which get it at 1pm (£47) which would suit us as we don't want to get up too early just to wait in Dublin till 4pm. The problem is (as you correctly state) that if we miss the DUB-FLY we are in a bit of bother.

Go early, bags into left luggage at Dub. head intoo the city for a nice lunch.

It's the only way to be sure.

[tobinen]

In the above example would you have to complete the return leg to DUB or could you bail at LGW?

[GT03ROB]

tobinen said:

In the above example would you have to complete the return leg to DUB or could you bail at LGW?

Bail out at LGW.

[tim0409]

GT03ROB said:

tobinen said:

In the above example would you have to complete the return leg to DUB or could you bail at LGW?

Bail out at LGW.

When I rebooked the tickets I purposely changed the last leg from LCY-DUB to LGW-DUB - because we are flying in to LCY the airport change means we will get the luggage back rather than it being checked through to DUB.

The flights just got a bit cheaper - the first flights were booked in Euros, but have been refunded GBP which is £30 more than I had paid

[cashmax]

Greg66 said:

No magic: Select "Multicity" (not "Round trip") at the top
Put in flight 1 as Dublin to LCY and select the date as 15/12
Flight 2 is LHR to MIA on 16/12
Flight 3 is MIA to LHR on 29/12
Flight 4 is LCY to Dublin on 30/12

Then select the times of the flights you want. I'm guessing you're using "round trip", which is not producing overnight stopovers.

Yes, you guessed correct. Thanks.

[The Moose]

So, I'm still struggling with this!!

I want to go to Miami leaving LHR on 17th July, and leaving MIA on 31st July.

Would someone please be so kind as to run this by me to work out the best price?!



Cheers

The Moose

[anonymous-user]

The way I would do that:

https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#search;iti=DUB_L...

£1190 in business. Note the following:

1. the LHR to MIA flights leave sufficiently early that flying in from DUB to LHR would be (IMO) too tight a connection. So I'd fly DUB to LHR the day before. There are a few options for this, which are basically price neutral, and which allow you to fly into LHR or LCY as you wish. If you don't want to spend a day, you could perhaps fly out around 5/6om and fly back on the last flight, which lands in London (forget where) at 10pm.

2. I can't get google flights or itasoftware to produce an LCY to DUB fourth sector. So I've pushed the fourth sector out a further day: you'd leave MIA on 31 Jul, land at LHR on 1 Aug, then be scheduled to fly from LHR to DUB first thing on 2 Aug. You should be able to get the check in agent at MIA to check your bags only to LHR (and not through check them to DUB) so that you can have them back at LHR on 1 Aug - because you have an overnight in LHR. It is possible though that you won't be able to, and someone from your party will have to fly the fourth sector to get the bags. Possible.

3. You can swap DUB for AMS at each end of the trip and get short haul sectors into and out of LCY, but the price moves up to closer to £1500.

[The Moose]

Would this work? Virgin Upper?

[The Moose]

Or could I do this:



Then have a couple of days in Dublin the weekend before (just out of hand luggage) and then check in again at LHR to go Virgin Upper to MIA?

[anonymous-user]

If it fits your plans I would do the latter. The former gives you 3.5 hours at LHR between sectors 1 and 2. Into that you have to fit delays on the incoming flight, collecting hold luggage, switching terminals and checking in in time for sector 2. There are lots of ways for that to go wrong.

[Misaps]

I read about the 'hidden city' / 'boomerang' flights last year on the DIBB and was a bit sceptical, however

Yesterday I booked Business Class DUB > LHR > SFO > LHR > DUB (Dublin sectors with Aer Lingus: San Francisco sectors with Virgin). Going the direct route with Virgin was priced at £7185 (for two) but with my NOW confirmed route its cost £2675 for both of us (which includes locator flight with BA to DUB, overnight stay in Dublin with a little help of Avios points).

I did this as a 'round trip' and not multi-city and have a 3 hour 45 turn around in LHR outbound (quick skip from terminal 2 to 3). Return again has a 5 hour 'layover' and am hoping we can get our bags not routed through to Dublin (will argue the case that we want to use the Revivals lounge and need 'stuff' plus hoping that being different carriers it wont be an issue!)

When I looked at Multi-city the cost came out at £475 more expensive (still huge savings on original quote) and whilst it gave us some room for manoeuvre in flight connection timing / retrieving bags to offload the last sector, I was on a mission to save once I'd been bitten by the search bug.

My calculations also worked out that we have two worst case scenerios (a)DUB > LHR is delayed and we miss our LHR > SFO sector...we're on one ticket and so 'should' be taken care of (b) we can't get to collect our bags at LHR on return and have to go to DUB, whilst a pain it's not going to cost us more than £475 so should still be in profit.

I do wonder for how long this sort of routing will be available without the airlines clamping down, if at all they can?

[cashmax]

The Moose said:

Or could I do this:



Then have a couple of days in Dublin the weekend before (just out of hand luggage) and then check in again at LHR to go Virgin Upper to MIA?

I had problems trying to book the Virgin flights. They were not able to issue the same flights you have there on a through ticket, so although the price might be correct, you would need to buy the whole lot via an agent. BA could be booked online.

Edited to say I called back and got an agent who knew how to do it without any issue, in fact saved a further £880.

Edited by cashmax on Sunday 15th February 18:14

[cashmax]

Misaps said:

I read about the 'hidden city' / 'boomerang' flights last year on the DIBB and was a bit sceptical, however

Yesterday I booked Business Class DUB > LHR > SFO > LHR > DUB (Dublin sectors with Aer Lingus: San Francisco sectors with Virgin). Going the direct route with Virgin was priced at £7185 (for two) but with my NOW confirmed route its cost £2675 for both of us (which includes locator flight with BA to DUB, overnight stay in Dublin with a little help of Avios points).

I did this as a 'round trip' and not multi-city and have a 3 hour 45 turn around in LHR outbound (quick skip from terminal 2 to 3). Return again has a 5 hour 'layover' and am hoping we can get our bags not routed through to Dublin (will argue the case that we want to use the Revivals lounge and need 'stuff' plus hoping that being different carriers it wont be an issue!)

When I looked at Multi-city the cost came out at £475 more expensive (still huge savings on original quote) and whilst it gave us some room for manoeuvre in flight connection timing / retrieving bags to offload the last sector, I was on a mission to save once I'd been bitten by the search bug.

My calculations also worked out that we have two worst case scenerios (a)DUB > LHR is delayed and we miss our LHR > SFO sector...we're on one ticket and so 'should' be taken care of (b) we can't get to collect our bags at LHR on return and have to go to DUB, whilst a pain it's not going to cost us more than £475 so should still be in profit.

I do wonder for how long this sort of routing will be available without the airlines clamping down, if at all they can?

Virgin told me that they had no issue with you asking for your bags not to be checked through on the way back. (it's only a label after all)

[Misaps]

cashmax said:

Virgin told me that they had no issue with you asking for your bags not to be checked through on the way back. (it's only a label after all)

good to hear thanks