Anyone done a long haul flight with 2 y/o twins?
Discussion
remkingston said:
It's the other passengers more than anything. I saw this and thought "what a good idea":
/vomitI bet they send those Christmas cards that include essays on how fabulous they are.
Were taking our 3 (6,3, 20m) to Spain in August. First time they've all been on a plane together. Only one I'm fussed about is the youngest as he's a big, strong, wriggly mofo and won't have his own seat.
The OPs proposed trip is making my teeth itch just thinking about it,especially with them on your laps, for 40hrs, NO!
Sheepshanks said:
Hub said:
You must know what your kids are like. I've been on flights where young kids have just curled up and gone to sleep and been as good as gold, and others where they were a nightmare running up and down the aisles and being grizzly. My daughter is 14 months now, will be 2 at Christmas so roughly the same age, and she won't sit still now, so active and stubborn that I would fear for surviving four long haul flights, let alone with two of her!
I don't think you can tell - we took our extremely lively granddaughter to Florida last summer when she was just under 3 and she was absolutely fine. Only weird thing is, although she's normally a fantastic sleeper, she didn't sleep a wink on the overnight flight back. We made a mistake flying PE as the armrest doesn't fold up, so she couldn't lie across her mum. Having her own seat was also an issue when there was some turbulence as the crew insisted she had to be in it, and not on her mum's knee.OTOH we know someone whose daughter is good as gold - she had a complete epi when she got on the plane to the extent that she had to be taken off and calmed down, delaying the flight.
I know someone who 'drugged' their toddler only for it to have the opposite effect (don't know what the drug was) and they were climbing the walls and rather grumpy!
dave_s13 said:
remkingston said:
It's the other passengers more than anything. I saw this and thought "what a good idea":
[b]/vomitI bet they send those Christmas cards that include essays on how fabulous they are. [/b]
Were taking our 3 (6,3, 20m) to Spain in August. First time they've all been on a plane together. Only one I'm fussed about is the youngest as he's a big, strong, wriggly mofo and won't have his own seat.
The OPs proposed trip is making my teeth itch just thinking about it,especially with them on your laps, for 40hrs, NO!
Tossers.
I'd strongly advise against doing the flight with the twins on your lap. That would be one hell of a journey and I think would potentially ruin the last few days of your holiday knowing what you are about to go through. If you can't do a flight with short layover I would look at spending a day somewhere rather than waiting around in an airport fro 12 hours.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
Ari said:
Absolutely 100% this. Why do people not realise I am special and deserve an Airbus 380 all to myself even though I can only afford a cattle class ticket from Expedia, the rest of the world will just have to adapt to how special I am and swim to Australia[/i]
EFA. Get your own Gulfstream or quit whinging. Airliners are public transport, so they carry people. I'd much rather sit next to noisy kids than some pissed-up bloke hoovering up all the plane's miniatures and trying to get the stewardess to induct him into the Mile High Club.We did it (UK/Aus/UK) a few times with two under three.
Book all, or the best seats you can afford it (how does two business £compare to four economy?)
Always stop over in Singapore or HK overnight, a hotel room (swim, shave, shower, shag, sleep) is cheap sanity
Fly with an Asian airline and if (your kids are cute) you won't see them for half the flight as the attendants play with them.
Never fly QANTAS with children - they won't help you at all.
Always, always try the dose of phenergin or calpol (which ever antihistamine of choice) out on your kids weeks before hand. We never had an issue with ours but I had a friend whose daughter flipped the other way and was speeding for the entire trip.
Ignore anybody who moans or suggest you shouldn't be flying with kids.
Book all, or the best seats you can afford it (how does two business £compare to four economy?)
Always stop over in Singapore or HK overnight, a hotel room (swim, shave, shower, shag, sleep) is cheap sanity
Fly with an Asian airline and if (your kids are cute) you won't see them for half the flight as the attendants play with them.
Never fly QANTAS with children - they won't help you at all.
Always, always try the dose of phenergin or calpol (which ever antihistamine of choice) out on your kids weeks before hand. We never had an issue with ours but I had a friend whose daughter flipped the other way and was speeding for the entire trip.
Ignore anybody who moans or suggest you shouldn't be flying with kids.
What I fantastic idea, as its normally the chair bed things and the kids will be small enough to sleep together on one.
Bluebarge said:
EFA. Get your own Gulfstream or quit whinging. Airliners are public transport, so they carry people. I'd much rather sit next to noisy kids than some pissed-up bloke hoovering up all the plane's miniatures and trying to get the stewardess to induct him into the Mile High Club.
My thoughts exactly, so many people nowadays believe in their own self importance. Tony Starks said:
Bluebarge said:
EFA. Get your own Gulfstream or quit whinging. Airliners are public transport, so they carry people. I'd much rather sit next to noisy kids than some pissed-up bloke hoovering up all the plane's miniatures and trying to get the stewardess to induct him into the Mile High Club.
My thoughts exactly, so many people nowadays believe in their own self importance. Because any normal person would prefer not to be sat next to a drunk or screaming kids, they are 'self important'?
Having flown to florida many times with ours when they were younger, Medised was great on the 'off' days but it's for older children only now I think. A big NO to on laps, it's ok having the option to put them on your lap, but not for the whole flight.
the bassinets were ok, but couldn't be used in turbulence, so the thought of disturbing a sleeping child when the seatbelt light goes on meant we only requested it once
I have had more issues on flights with old duffers and ignorant adults than young children, you know the ones who recline the seat for the whole flight, then moan about you holding on to it as it's the only way to get out of yours...
the bassinets were ok, but couldn't be used in turbulence, so the thought of disturbing a sleeping child when the seatbelt light goes on meant we only requested it once
I have had more issues on flights with old duffers and ignorant adults than young children, you know the ones who recline the seat for the whole flight, then moan about you holding on to it as it's the only way to get out of yours...
pherlopolus said:
Having flown to florida many times with ours when they were younger, Medised was great on the 'off' days but it's for older children only now I think. A big NO to on laps, it's ok having the option to put them on your lap, but not for the whole flight.
the bassinets were ok, but couldn't be used in turbulence, so the thought of disturbing a sleeping child when the seatbelt light goes on meant we only requested it once
I have had more issues on flights with old duffers and ignorant adults than young children, you know the ones who recline the seat for the whole flight, then moan about you holding on to it as it's the only way to get out of yours...
Why would you not recline the seat? Its designed to recline.the bassinets were ok, but couldn't be used in turbulence, so the thought of disturbing a sleeping child when the seatbelt light goes on meant we only requested it once
I have had more issues on flights with old duffers and ignorant adults than young children, you know the ones who recline the seat for the whole flight, then moan about you holding on to it as it's the only way to get out of yours...
LordGrover said:
Tony Starks said:
Bluebarge said:
EFA. Get your own Gulfstream or quit whinging. Airliners are public transport, so they carry people. I'd much rather sit next to noisy kids than some pissed-up bloke hoovering up all the plane's miniatures and trying to get the stewardess to induct him into the Mile High Club.
My thoughts exactly, so many people nowadays believe in their own self importance. Because any normal person would prefer not to be sat next to a drunk or screaming kids, they are 'self important'?
Dusty964 said:
Why would you not recline the seat? Its designed to recline.
that wasn't the problem, I recline too. It was the fact that I had to grab the seat in front to get out when it was reclined (thomas cook to portugal, not much room!), which apparently is not not ok... "good job my seat is here or you wouldn't be able to get out!","actually if your seat wasn't there I wouldn't need to hold on to balance myself"last flight I was on the duffer (must have been 70+) in front was reading a sex manual on his kindle, and was holding it out in front of him, at head height with 20pt font. It was amusing, but hardly appropriate...
or the 40 year old 'dad' with a very loud and beepy electronic game for a whole 4 hour flight
As a parent who has flown with children, I guess I am more understanding about children having issues on planes, than of adults who are just plain uncaring/rude/smelly.
Bluebarge said:
Ari said:
Absolutely 100% this. Why do people not realise I am special and deserve an Airbus 380 all to myself even though I can only afford a cattle class ticket from Expedia, the rest of the world will just have to adapt to how special I am and swim to Australia[/i]
EFA. Get your own Gulfstream or quit whinging. Airliners are public transport, so they carry people. I'd much rather sit next to noisy kids than some pissed-up bloke hoovering up all the plane's miniatures and trying to get the stewardess to induct him into the Mile High Club.Yes there are worse things, so what?
Tony Starks said:
Bluebarge said:
EFA. Get your own Gulfstream or quit whinging. Airliners are public transport, so they carry people. I'd much rather sit next to noisy kids than some pissed-up bloke hoovering up all the plane's miniatures and trying to get the stewardess to induct him into the Mile High Club.
My thoughts exactly, so many people nowadays believe in their own self importance. If YOU are likely to cause those around you inconvenience or discomfort or annoyance then YOU are the one that needs to have a rethink, not 'f
k them, they'll just have to put up with it'.You have very small children now. That means your life has to change and adapt to that. Not the rest of the world's.
Yes, obviously there are times when you are going to impact negatively on other people, and them on you, and it can't be helped. That's life.
But to inflict very small children who are entirely likely to be a nuisance to others for a very long time is just plain arrogant. And to dismiss anyone that objects to that as 'self important' doubly so.
It was your choice to have children, now deal with the changes in your life, like not being able to do long haul flights for a while till they get older. (Did it really not occur to you when you had kids that this might be the case?)
Or, you know, just say 'f
k the rest of the world, we aint changing nuffink' and carry on regardless I suppose...Ari said:
Self-important stuff
You are claiming that children should not be allowed to travel. That's fine if you own the plane. But you don't. It's self-important to assume that you get to decide who travels on commercial transport and who doesn't. It's odd you feel the need to travel at all, given that the World clearly revolves around you and you can presumably hop on and off when you feel like it. Given your keenly-held principles I assume your parents kept you at home till you were 18?
Bluebarge said:
You are claiming that children should not be allowed to travel. That's fine if you own the plane. But you don't. It's self-important to assume that you get to decide who travels on commercial transport and who doesn't. It's odd you feel the need to travel at all, given that the World clearly revolves around you and you can presumably hop on and off when you feel like it.
Given your keenly-held principles I assume your parents kept you at home till you were 18?
What utter nonsense! Given your keenly-held principles I assume your parents kept you at home till you were 18?
Is that really how you managed to translate that in your mind?
Ari said:
What utter nonsense!
Is that really how you managed to translate that in your mind?
Is that really how you managed to translate that in your mind?
Ari said:
But to inflict very small children who are entirely likely to be a nuisance to others for a very long time is just plain arrogant. And to dismiss anyone that objects to that as 'self important' doubly so.
It was your choice to have children, now deal with the changes in your life, like not being able to do long haul flights for a while till they get older. (Did it really not occur to you when you had kids that this might be the case?)
That is what it says to me... you have young children - don't do long haul :S How arrogant.It was your choice to have children, now deal with the changes in your life, like not being able to do long haul flights for a while till they get older. (Did it really not occur to you when you had kids that this might be the case?)
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