Driving in France - Hi viz vests

Driving in France - Hi viz vests

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soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Compulsory equipment for driving in Europe
http://shop.theaa.com/store/advice-on-driving-in-e...

Batfink

1,032 posts

259 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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I thought they had done a U-turn on the breathalyser?

illmonkey

18,209 posts

199 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Still required to carry one, but no fine, so why bother.

Site is technically correct, while being wrong at the same time.

civicduty

1,857 posts

204 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Is all this stuff just for tourists using there own vehicle? As when I hired a car in France last year it came with none of these items. Was I meant to buy them myself whilst in France and then sell them on?

Edited by civicduty on Thursday 12th March 11:13

zcacogp

11,239 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Frankly, they are a sensible thing to have in the car no matter where in the world you are driving, so I'd suggest you buy some to keep in the car at all times and be grateful that good safety equipment is so cheap.


Oli.

soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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The right page: http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/overseas/comp...

France - breathalysers for all and reflective jackets for motorcyclists

Several changes have been made to motoring laws in France in support of the International Decade on Road Safety though two new laws have subsequently been either abolished or postponed indefinitely

[/b]January 2013[/b] - Drivers in France have been required to carry a self-test breathalyser since July 2012 with enforcement by fines originally planned for 1 November but subsequently postponed to 1 March 2013. Now the French government has announced that the implementation of the sanction (fine) for drivers not carrying a breathalyser – a fine of €11 – has been postponed indefinitely.

So you are still required to carry a self-test breathalyser when driving in France but there is no current legislation demanding a fine for non-compliance.

Motorcycle riders were to be required to wear reflective clothing in France from 1 January 2013 but the French law making reflective equipment compulsory for motorcycle riders and passengers has been abolished.

Mr_Yogi

3,279 posts

256 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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This is interesting as I'm off driving in France for the first time later this year. I hadn't given that there may be different rules to the UK a second throught, appart from the GB stickers.

The Drive-France site linked in the opening post, lists the V5 as proof of ownership, in the Documents section. However the V5 states "THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT PROOF OF OWNERSHIP", so do you need to take the V5? Purchase invoice?

RicksAlfas

13,406 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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civicduty said:
Is all this stuff just for tourists using there own vehicle? As when I hired a car in France last year it came with none of these items. Was I meant to buy them myself whilst in France and then sell them on?
Every French hire car I've had has had a vest in the glovebox.
The legal requirement is one for the driver, so hire cars come with one vest.

KPE

Original Poster:

148 posts

140 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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RicksAlfas said:
Every French hire car I've had has had a vest in the glovebox.
The legal requirement is one for the driver, so hire cars come with one vest.
Need a vest for all the passengers:

Hi Viz Vests

If you breakdown or heaven forbid are involved in an accident you will need to get out of the vehicle and stand at the roadside or on the hard-shoulder if on a motorway. The French authorities are very strict that people stood outside the vehicle on motorways especially are wearing "Hi Visibility" clothing such as a vest that fits over you clothing or a high viz jacket.

That's everyone you the driver and also all of your passengers. So if a family of four are travelling in the car then you should each have a hi viz. Also these need to be carried inside the cabin of the car not the boot so you can put it on before you get out, though in practical terms I presume most will be putting it on as they are getting out. However the police are strict and if they see you stood with the boot up rummaging round trying to find the vests under all your suitcases and beach balls they will very likely issue you with a fine.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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KPE said:
illmonkey said:
You can get hi-vis for £1/pop, stop being tight!
Where from please? Poundland?
Learn to use the bloomin' internet, FFS! https://www.hivis.co.uk/yellow-hi-vis-safety-vest-...


Edited by Pothole on Thursday 12th March 12:02

illmonkey

18,209 posts

199 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Pothole said:
KPE said:
illmonkey said:
You can get hi-vis for £1/pop, stop being tight!
Where from please? Poundland?
Learn to us the bloomin' internet, FFS!
You can talk!

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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illmonkey said:
Pothole said:
KPE said:
illmonkey said:
You can get hi-vis for £1/pop, stop being tight!
Where from please? Poundland?
Learn to us the bloomin' internet, FFS!
You can talk!
Edited...distracted by a video of the new H2R

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

179 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Mr_Yogi said:
This is interesting as I'm off driving in France for the first time later this year. I hadn't given that there may be different rules to the UK a second throught, appart from the GB stickers.

The Drive-France site linked in the opening post, lists the V5 as proof of ownership, in the Documents section. However the V5 states "THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT PROOF OF OWNERSHIP", so do you need to take the V5? Purchase invoice?
Yes you should take the V5 - never been asked to produce it in 25 years of driving in France, but it is what they will ask for. All they want to know is that you are legally entitled to drive the vehicle. Purchase invoice not necessary.

gtidriver

3,349 posts

188 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Ive seen and helped a few UK people in Europe that have broken down, Ive never seen any Brits abroad with a yellow jacket/vest on at the side of the road. Normally keep 6 or so dotted around the car, I've given a few away to stranded people as well.
OP what car you going in? will you have space for a small bag of many things, i.e. jump leads tow rope a few hand tools, torch screen wash etc

RicksAlfas

13,406 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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KPE said:
Need a vest for all the passengers:
That is a recommendation, but not the law. The law in France is that there must be a vest for the driver, within reach inside the car. That is why every hire car (even a seven seater) has just one vest in it.

However, many Brits going over in their own car follow the good practice of having one for everyone inside their car, and at the price they are it's fair enough.

smifffymoto

4,562 posts

206 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Only the driver is required by law to have a vest and must have access to it from inside the car ie. not in the boot.

civicduty

1,857 posts

204 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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RicksAlfas said:
civicduty said:
Is all this stuff just for tourists using there own vehicle? As when I hired a car in France last year it came with none of these items. Was I meant to buy them myself whilst in France and then sell them on?
Every French hire car I've had has had a vest in the glovebox.
The legal requirement is one for the driver, so hire cars come with one vest.
Apart from the one I had, some bugger must of nicked it.

//j17

4,483 posts

224 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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KPE said:
RicksAlfas said:
Every French hire car I've had has had a vest in the glovebox.
The legal requirement is one for the driver, so hire cars come with one vest.
Need a vest for all the passengers:
Not quite true. Anyone who gets out of the vehicle must ware one, but the law doesn't state that everyone has to get out the car so just providing 1 hi-vis if legal as the driver can put it on to get out and fix/phone for recovery.

Now if it a good idea to have one for every passenger too and for everyone to get out - that's a different question.

bluelightbabe

297 posts

169 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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KPE said:
Hi, I am planning to drive to France soon and came across a few do's and don't on this checklist:

http://www.drive-france.com/checklist/

It says that hi viz vests are necessary otherwise we could receive an on the spot fine. However, I currently have these RAC thermal blankets which aid visibility:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

Do you think I could get away with these blankets and not bother with the traditional hi viz vest?

Much appreciated on any thoughts!
Do you honestly think a blanket is a substitute for a jacket? What happens when you need your hands for something? You let go of the blanket and it blows away!

Ian Geary

4,490 posts

193 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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When I last drove to France, some old bloke driving off the ferry next to me was wearing a hi-viz. He's mis understood the rules and thought you had to be wearing the vest at all times.

Made me chuckle.

I got all the kit on ebay (ie vests, triangle, lense covers) but already had bulb kit.

Ian