Sharm - would you?

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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Tiggsy said:
came back 2 weeks ago - would go again tomorrow.

I hear someone died on the M25 yesterday....who's cancelling their trip to work???

And i was in Soho at 3am last saturday after a night out.....I'll take sharks and terrorists over the 3 hoodies behind me in the all night store!!!
I guess Tunisua is also on your list too of safe places to take you your wife and kids?

PositronicRay

27,034 posts

183 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Tiggsy said:
And i was in Soho at 3am last saturday after a night out.....I'll take sharks and terrorists over the 3 hoodies behind me in the all night store!!!
Always a good yardstick, for a pleasant holiday destination.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Tiggsy said:
came back 2 weeks ago - would go again tomorrow.

I hear someone died on the M25 yesterday....who's cancelling their trip to work???

And i was in Soho at 3am last saturday after a night out.....I'll take sharks and terrorists over the 3 hoodies behind me in the all night store!!!
Sadly you cannot as the UK govt is not permitting any flights out there

ObSene

103 posts

151 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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I just flew back from Sharm last Thursday and while my family and I had a great time, I won't be going back there for a while due to this incident frown

ObSene

103 posts

151 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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I think next October we'll give Dubai a go.

IforB

9,840 posts

229 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Sadly you cannot as the UK govt is not permitting any flights out there
Flights are restarting today.

trickywoo

11,809 posts

230 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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IforB said:
Flights are restarting today.
Not quite http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34743388

These were only rescue flights anyway not taking new people there.

IforB

9,840 posts

229 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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trickywoo said:
Not quite http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34743388

These were only rescue flights anyway not taking new people there.
I work for a large UK airline, the intention was to restart scheduled flights to Sharm today. What's going on with the EZY flight might change that!

Blown2CV

28,842 posts

203 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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el stovey said:
Blown2CV said:
WinstonWolf said:
Blown2CV said:
twing said:
I did go in September and it was still the same, got on well with the locals, food,etc. It was the British that that let it down and I won't be going again. Nothing to do with the planes going down though.
might be a good bet in about a year when all the english and russians have finally taken the decision to go elsewhere! Empty infinity pools, infinite food, infinite sun loungers... i mean it's all on fire and in ruins but lets not quibble.
I felt safer in Sharm than I did in the Caribbean... Basically if you go anywhere warmer than Brighton everyone is a bit mental.
agree partly. I wouldn't really fancy Caribbean either, although the risk there is about being burgled/robbed/raped/murdered/kidnapped/all of the above on an individual basis rather than en masse.
Just out of interest Blown2CV, where do you feel safe on holiday. hehe
you've utterly misunderstood me. The places I wouldn't feel safe are the ones I've mentioned. I'm not a risk averse person, and I am off to thailand for 2 weeks over xmas and NY, and despite the temple bombing and political unrest, I wouldn't feel unsafe there. So, that means something - if someone who takes a balanced view of risk (and risk is part of my job) says they feel unsafe in egypt that definitely isn't something you can just dismiss with a silly smiley.

Blown2CV

28,842 posts

203 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Tiggsy said:
came back 2 weeks ago - would go again tomorrow.

I hear someone died on the M25 yesterday....who's cancelling their trip to work???

And i was in Soho at 3am last saturday after a night out.....I'll take sharks and terrorists over the 3 hoodies behind me in the all night store!!!
but that's an important difference - no-one is telling you not to use the roads or go out on the piss. However many people including authorities are saying not to travel to egypt, yet people still do and wonder why they get in st. FFS the place has checkpoints every 200 yards when you're on the highway.

MX51ROD

2,749 posts

147 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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We are booked to go in February , don't know if it is still on , still have to pay balance next week or pay £50 pp to transfer booking to another resort, or penalty to cancel, also non cancellation booking in airport hotel will be forfeited if we don't go

Edited by MX51ROD on Friday 6th November 13:09

PositronicRay

27,034 posts

183 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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I'm that case I'd be finding £50pp.

popeyewhite

19,916 posts

120 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Blown2CV said:
Tiggsy said:
came back 2 weeks ago - would go again tomorrow.

I hear someone died on the M25 yesterday....who's cancelling their trip to work???

And i was in Soho at 3am last saturday after a night out.....I'll take sharks and terrorists over the 3 hoodies behind me in the all night store!!!
but that's an important difference - no-one is telling you not to use the roads or go out on the piss. However many people including authorities are saying not to travel to egypt, yet people still do and wonder why they get in st. FFS the place has checkpoints every 200 yards when you're on the highway.
Sharm may, nearer town. The whole of Egypt doesn't and just gets on with business as normal. Try not to become too hysterical.




WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Blown2CV said:
el stovey said:
Blown2CV said:
WinstonWolf said:
Blown2CV said:
twing said:
I did go in September and it was still the same, got on well with the locals, food,etc. It was the British that that let it down and I won't be going again. Nothing to do with the planes going down though.
might be a good bet in about a year when all the english and russians have finally taken the decision to go elsewhere! Empty infinity pools, infinite food, infinite sun loungers... i mean it's all on fire and in ruins but lets not quibble.
I felt safer in Sharm than I did in the Caribbean... Basically if you go anywhere warmer than Brighton everyone is a bit mental.
agree partly. I wouldn't really fancy Caribbean either, although the risk there is about being burgled/robbed/raped/murdered/kidnapped/all of the above on an individual basis rather than en masse.
Just out of interest Blown2CV, where do you feel safe on holiday. hehe
you've utterly misunderstood me. The places I wouldn't feel safe are the ones I've mentioned. I'm not a risk averse person, and I am off to thailand for 2 weeks over xmas and NY, and despite the temple bombing and political unrest, I wouldn't feel unsafe there. So, that means something - if someone who takes a balanced view of risk (and risk is part of my job) says they feel unsafe in egypt that definitely isn't something you can just dismiss with a silly smiley.
Sharm will be safer than it was (not that it's statistically unsafe at the moment) due to this incident. I would feel far safer walking around town at night in Sharm than I would in Jamaica.

Realistically I'm more likely to die while driving to/from the airport than I am whilst I'm in Sharm.

Blown2CV

28,842 posts

203 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
Blown2CV said:
el stovey said:
Blown2CV said:
WinstonWolf said:
Blown2CV said:
twing said:
I did go in September and it was still the same, got on well with the locals, food,etc. It was the British that that let it down and I won't be going again. Nothing to do with the planes going down though.
might be a good bet in about a year when all the english and russians have finally taken the decision to go elsewhere! Empty infinity pools, infinite food, infinite sun loungers... i mean it's all on fire and in ruins but lets not quibble.
I felt safer in Sharm than I did in the Caribbean... Basically if you go anywhere warmer than Brighton everyone is a bit mental.
agree partly. I wouldn't really fancy Caribbean either, although the risk there is about being burgled/robbed/raped/murdered/kidnapped/all of the above on an individual basis rather than en masse.
Just out of interest Blown2CV, where do you feel safe on holiday. hehe
you've utterly misunderstood me. The places I wouldn't feel safe are the ones I've mentioned. I'm not a risk averse person, and I am off to thailand for 2 weeks over xmas and NY, and despite the temple bombing and political unrest, I wouldn't feel unsafe there. So, that means something - if someone who takes a balanced view of risk (and risk is part of my job) says they feel unsafe in egypt that definitely isn't something you can just dismiss with a silly smiley.
Sharm will be safer than it was (not that it's statistically unsafe at the moment) due to this incident. I would feel far safer walking around town at night in Sharm than I would in Jamaica.

Realistically I'm more likely to die while driving to/from the airport than I am whilst I'm in Sharm.
yes but you can CHOOSE where you want to go on holiday. You can't CHOOSE to not get to the airport in order to fly there. The point is why the fk would you continue to choose a militarised state which is all over the news for being dangerous as fk? You can justify it all you like but it all comes back to money. Just like those contractors who CHOOSE to work in Iraq for a fat wad of cash, which is great right up until they get beheaded.

If you just wave away all risk in this "meh, life is risky" way then you can't complain if it all comes home to roost. Equally, you won't be able to complain in this example, as you'd be fking vaporised.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Blown2CV said:
WinstonWolf said:
Blown2CV said:
el stovey said:
Blown2CV said:
WinstonWolf said:
Blown2CV said:
twing said:
I did go in September and it was still the same, got on well with the locals, food,etc. It was the British that that let it down and I won't be going again. Nothing to do with the planes going down though.
might be a good bet in about a year when all the english and russians have finally taken the decision to go elsewhere! Empty infinity pools, infinite food, infinite sun loungers... i mean it's all on fire and in ruins but lets not quibble.
I felt safer in Sharm than I did in the Caribbean... Basically if you go anywhere warmer than Brighton everyone is a bit mental.
agree partly. I wouldn't really fancy Caribbean either, although the risk there is about being burgled/robbed/raped/murdered/kidnapped/all of the above on an individual basis rather than en masse.
Just out of interest Blown2CV, where do you feel safe on holiday. hehe
you've utterly misunderstood me. The places I wouldn't feel safe are the ones I've mentioned. I'm not a risk averse person, and I am off to thailand for 2 weeks over xmas and NY, and despite the temple bombing and political unrest, I wouldn't feel unsafe there. So, that means something - if someone who takes a balanced view of risk (and risk is part of my job) says they feel unsafe in egypt that definitely isn't something you can just dismiss with a silly smiley.
Sharm will be safer than it was (not that it's statistically unsafe at the moment) due to this incident. I would feel far safer walking around town at night in Sharm than I would in Jamaica.

Realistically I'm more likely to die while driving to/from the airport than I am whilst I'm in Sharm.
yes but you can CHOOSE where you want to go on holiday. You can't CHOOSE to not get to the airport in order to fly there. The point is why the fk would you continue to choose a militarised state which is all over the news for being dangerous as fk? You can justify it all you like but it all comes back to money. Just like those contractors who CHOOSE to work in Iraq for a fat wad of cash, which is great right up until they get beheaded.

If you just wave away all risk in this "meh, life is risky" way then you can't complain if it all comes home to roost. Equally, you won't be able to complain in this example, as you'd be fking vaporised.
I'm not complaining, I put my money where my mouth is and I'll be going again next year unless the FCO advises against it.

You're a chicken, I get that but don't take your bitterness out on us real men who aren't afraid of some poncey terrorists.

I'll also be going to Pripyat, but I'm saving that one for when I'm a bit closer to death, just in case...

MrB.

570 posts

186 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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My partner and I have been to Sharm 4 times in the last 3 years, and were just in the process of looking at going again in a weeks time until the flight-cancelling situation happened. I've always felt very safe there within the resorts, and even travelling to and from the airport, I've never had cause for concern. We've even been in Nama Bay (goodness knows why!) in the evenings and, again, never felt that anything was amiss. So, it's hasn't put me off going back there as we love the resort we go to (Stella di Mare, which is just an incredible place for the level of service).

However, I have to agree that the airport has been a real eye-opener in terms of how it operates whenever we've been (although, nothing like the one in Zanzibar, I'll give you that! It's incredible that is even allowed!). But then whilst not wishing to be a doom-monger, I lived in Lockerbie in the late '80s and no-one ever thought that would happen. Did people stop flying to New York after 9/11? Or going on the Tube in London? It's a terrible world we live in at times and these people who practice their extremism on the innocent in order to get noticed, or raise their point of view or religion cannot be seen to have dictated to hard-working people who just want a holiday, or travel a bit. I know we all want to protect our families, and that, of course, is human nature, and I won't criticise anyone who cancels a trip if they feel unsafe after this terrible event. Tourism is paramount to that region of Egypt, and perhaps we can take issue with the apparent lax of security that the airport has shown, and trust me, I've experienced it. But the people there who rely on the holiday seasons for their living are being punished by these terrorist factions too, and I for one, won't be dictated to by a group of cowards that inflict pain on others to raise their points of view, rather than discussing it in the open liked civilised human beings.

Just my tuppence worth, of course. Feel free to resume your normal service chaps.......

Patrick Bateman

12,187 posts

174 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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I still wouldn't go now, not a chance.

Timbergiant

995 posts

130 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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I've never really fancied it, not a terrorist thing just a bit too chav.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Timbergiant said:
I've never really fancied it, not a terrorist thing just a bit too chav.
smile

From the news reports you see there it appears that way.

Heck even the sensatori resort is dirt cheap -- there is a reason for that.