Sharm - would you?

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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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llewop said:
WinstonWolf said:
Sensible post alert! A quick explosive death doesn't bother me in the slightest (been dead once already) a slow death in poor health scares me stless...

I'm fortunate that I've had an extra thirty years I almost didn't have, it gives me a very fatalistic outlook on life, a near death experience is surprisingly liberating experience biggrin

I get that most people are scared of getting blown up, I'm just not one of them...


ETA Sharm is very much like Russia, the most dangerous thing there is the driving yikes

Edited by WinstonWolf on Saturday 7th November 09:34
fair enough with the perspective you mention - I'm fatalistic too, so recognise if I'm unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, it could end very quickly and messily, not scared of it; just use my judgement to mitigate the risk of it happening.
Fair enough but to make your children and wife who may not share that same view go to such a place is a little bizarre and utterly selfish

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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MrB. said:
It's incredible that is even allowed!). But then whilst not wishing to be a doom-monger, I lived in Lockerbie in the late '80s and no-one ever thought that would happen. Did people stop flying to New York after 9/11? Or going on the Tube in London?
The difference is that in Tunisia they targeted the British, and they may want to bomb a plane with Brits on board. So if you're one of the few British people in these places you may be in trouble.


WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Welshbeef said:
llewop said:
WinstonWolf said:
Sensible post alert! A quick explosive death doesn't bother me in the slightest (been dead once already) a slow death in poor health scares me stless...

I'm fortunate that I've had an extra thirty years I almost didn't have, it gives me a very fatalistic outlook on life, a near death experience is surprisingly liberating experience biggrin

I get that most people are scared of getting blown up, I'm just not one of them...


ETA Sharm is very much like Russia, the most dangerous thing there is the driving yikes

Edited by WinstonWolf on Saturday 7th November 09:34
fair enough with the perspective you mention - I'm fatalistic too, so recognise if I'm unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, it could end very quickly and messily, not scared of it; just use my judgement to mitigate the risk of it happening.
Fair enough but to make your children and wife who may not share that same view go to such a place is a little bizarre and utterly selfish
I have stroppy teenage daughters, I would rather get blown up than listen to two weeks of them moaning about how st everything is rolleyesbiggrin

My OH has a similar viewpoint to me for her own reasons, no one's being forced to go but there are more scary things in life as far as we are concerned.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
I have stroppy teenage daughters, I would rather get blown up than listen to two weeks of them moaning about how st everything is rolleyesbiggrin

My OH has a similar viewpoint to me for her own reasons, no one's being forced to go but there are more scary things in life as far as we are concerned.
Ok so in that case let's say you'd happily pay what £1.5k for each daughter to go to Sharm. So say they say due to the bombings plane and the hotel which was bombed ten years ago killing 80 tourists. Will you then allow them to take that £1.5k each to spend on a holiday elsewhere without you?



PositronicRay

27,089 posts

184 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
Sensible post alert! A quick explosive death doesn't bother me in the slightest (been dead once already) a slow death in poor health scares me stless...

I'm fortunate that I've had an extra thirty years I almost didn't have, it gives me a very fatalistic outlook on life, a near death experience is surprisingly liberating experience biggrin

I get that most people are scared of getting blown up, I'm just not one of them...


ETA Sharm is very much like Russia, the most dangerous thing there is the driving yikes

Edited by WinstonWolf on Saturday 7th November 09:34
It's not that I'm afraid of death and maiming (although by being sensible the risk can be minimised)

I just don't see going on holiday in a war zone as very relaxing or enjoyable. If I wanted adventure from my holidays I'd go hiking across Africa or some such thing.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Wouldn't it be hell if we all wanted to go the same place on holiday biggrin

I love it there but I get that it's not for everyone. Some people will have changed their minds as a result of this, but to answer the original question I'm not one of them...

popeyewhite

20,068 posts

121 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Welshbeef said:
PositronicRay said:
It's just been reported that a Thompson flight had a near miss from a missile in august.

Do you still think its a pleasant and relaxing place to take a holiday?
Probably only real men can handle that minor scrape.
Oh take the smelling salts the pair of you!


Hedgeman

664 posts

232 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Everything in life is arguably a risk, the drive to the airport could end in a pile up, a plane to any destination might crash, you could get unlucky and murdered in any city in the world.

Normally when there's an excessive risk to be taken, there's a premia for taking it. Quite what that risk premia is with Sharm honestly escapes me.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Hedgeman said:
Everything in life is arguably a risk, the drive to the airport could end in a pile up, a plane to any destination might crash, you could get unlucky and murdered in any city in the world.

Normally when there's an excessive risk to be taken, there's a premia for taking it. Quite what that risk premia is with Sharm honestly escapes me.
Premia is the plural of premium. A single premia isn't a thing.

Anyway, I've always been of the opinion that it's a big risk. Imagine if they'd blown up the runway rather than a plane - the only other way out safely is by sea to Saudi Arabia.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Hedgeman said:
Everything in life is arguably a risk, the drive to the airport could end in a pile up, a plane to any destination might crash, you could get unlucky and murdered in any city in the world.

Normally when there's an excessive risk to be taken, there's a premia for taking it. Quite what that risk premia is with Sharm honestly escapes me.
There are thousands actually millions of other places to go to seems silly just to keep going to one place especially if the threat of danger and death is dramatically escalated.

Hedgeman

664 posts

232 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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davepoth said:
Premia is the plural of premium. A single premia isn't a thing.
Too much time around options traders, sorry...

popeyewhite

20,068 posts

121 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Welshbeef said:
There are thousands actually millions of other places to go to seems silly just to keep going to one place especially if the threat of danger and death is dramatically escalated.
But is it? That's the point. Do you think any terrorist worth his/her salt will keep plugging away at the same target, regardless of diminishing returns?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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popeyewhite said:
Welshbeef said:
There are thousands actually millions of other places to go to seems silly just to keep going to one place especially if the threat of danger and death is dramatically escalated.
But is it? That's the point. Do you think any terrorist worth his/her salt will keep plugging away at the same target, regardless of diminishing returns?
It's worked fantastically well in Tunisia suddenly causes big civil unrest as the economy is destroyed and then you have the next wave of new supporters.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Why do other people's decisions bother you so much WB?

popeyewhite

20,068 posts

121 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Welshbeef said:
popeyewhite said:
Welshbeef said:
There are thousands actually millions of other places to go to seems silly just to keep going to one place especially if the threat of danger and death is dramatically escalated.
But is it? That's the point. Do you think any terrorist worth his/her salt will keep plugging away at the same target, regardless of diminishing returns?
It's worked fantastically well in Tunisia suddenly causes big civil unrest as the economy is destroyed and then you have the next wave of new supporters.
Yes, but back to what I was addressing... which was whether the threat of death in Sharm has escalated dramatically... .smile

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
Why do other people's decisions bother you so much WB?
Given the title of the thread is
"Sharm - would you?"
It kind of suggests anyone who posts on it has a view one way or another and is therefore willing to debate and challenge.


Can I throw that question right back to you why are you posting on a thread where it is all about other people's decisions in guessing it does bother you ? Else why would you waste precious time on it?

Ross_

526 posts

238 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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I am still planning to go in the summer with the family - I am of the opinion it could happen anywhere and avoiding a place purely because of some islamic or any other terrorists is mental.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Ross_ said:
I am still planning to go in the summer with the family - I am of the opinion it could happen anywhere and avoiding a place purely because of some islamic or any other terrorists is mental.
You remember ten years ago to a similar month they blew up a tourist hotel killing 80+ people.
Worrying

GT03ROB

13,315 posts

222 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Ross_ said:
I am still planning to go in the summer with the family - I am of the opinion it could happen anywhere and avoiding a place purely because of some islamic or any other terrorists is mental.
You remember ten years ago to a similar month they blew up a tourist hotel killing 80+ people.
Worrying
& 10 yrs ago they blew up some trains & a bus killing 50+ & injuring hundreds...... but in London. Is London unsafe??

Adz The Rat

14,194 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Would never have gone, sounds like a dirty, horrible place.
Now, not a chance in hell.