Sharm - would you?

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anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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No.

For me there are many destinations better than Egypt even without the current threat from ISIL.

Even if the risk is minuscule why take it?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Friend of mine who works "for the Foreign Office" always says, if you can't drink the tap water, don't go there.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
We're booked for our fifth visit next year already. The IRA didn't stop us doing things, I'm not changing the habits of a lifetime...
Paddy's modus operandi and that of ISIS are somewhat different.
rolleyes
And that deserves a rolleyes?

MO doesn't matter, when you're dead you're dead. You could stay at home and still get blown up.

Tosser.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
We're booked for our fifth visit next year already. The IRA didn't stop us doing things, I'm not changing the habits of a lifetime...
Paddy's modus operandi and that of ISIS are somewhat different.
rolleyes
And that deserves a rolleyes?

MO doesn't matter, when you're dead you're dead. You could stay at home and still get blown up.

Tosser.
wker.
Since when did the IRA target overseas holiday resorts known to be popular with Brits?
Since when did the IRA have influence from Morocco all the way to the Far East?
To compare any of the Irish groups to ISIS and all their little wizards shows an unbelievable ignorance of the entire thing.
D'you read The Star per chance, or the Daily Sport?
This thing about "I could get blown up just as easily at home" is a little bit sensationalist. UK-based security and intelligence is light years ahead of that in certain parts of the world, we simply never get to hear about it.
If it really was that easy, why haven't we seen anything significant on UK shores since 7/7?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
We're booked for our fifth visit next year already. The IRA didn't stop us doing things, I'm not changing the habits of a lifetime...
Paddy's modus operandi and that of ISIS are somewhat different.
rolleyes
And that deserves a rolleyes?

MO doesn't matter, when you're dead you're dead. You could stay at home and still get blown up.

Tosser.
wker.
Since when did the IRA target overseas holiday resorts known to be popular with Brits?
Since when did the IRA have influence from Morocco all the way to the Far East?
To compare any of the Irish groups to ISIS and all their little wizards shows an unbelievable ignorance of the entire thing.
D'you read The Star per chance, or the Daily Sport?
This thing about "I could get blown up just as easily at home" is a little bit sensationalist. UK-based security and intelligence is light years ahead of that in certain parts of the world, we simply never get to hear about it.
If it really was that easy, why haven't we seen anything significant on UK shores since 7/7?
Try not being a just because you're safe behind your keyboard, there's a good boy. Would you launch into someone offering advice in the real world, of course you wouldnt. You're more likely to die in the sea in Sharm than you are from an attack.

The point you seem to fail to understand is that you can die pretty much any day, when your times up it's up. Just ask Lee Rigby. Oh wait, you can't.

You can't let terrorists rule your life, it's not the English way.

wack

2,103 posts

206 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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I don't want to go on holiday to places where somebody carrying a bag worries me.

There's plenty of safer places to go so why risk it.


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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"Launch in to one"? laugh
Go and dry your eyes Princess. If you offered me the advice that the IRA never got you so ISIS aren't worth considering as a risk, I wouldn't just roll my eyes at you, I'd tell you to your face that you're talking complete bks.
The IRA, and their opponents for that matter, have/had a clearly defined political agenda, a strict rank structure and a process of seeking approval and authority (however warped that may have been) for proposed action.
These ISIS nutters are just that....complete fking fruit-loops who do not give a flying fk.....about you, me, themselves, or anything else.
I take it an armchair expert such as yourself is aware that most of these jihadist lone wolf types are usually off their heads on something illegal when they carry out their attacks?
I'm not sure the upper echelons of the Irish parties would've tolerated quite such a liberal and freelance attitude to paramilitary operations.
Finally, if you don't want people rolling their eyes at you, don't post cobblers. There's a dear.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Too hot for me and not enough trail running opportunities, so no, I wouldn't holiday in Sharm.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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In my case, I've been dead once already, I'm on extra time. The tube is just as scary as Sharm IMO.

Blown2CV

28,798 posts

203 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Not a fking chance. I went in August about 7 years ago and you can really see why it's cheap. Checkpoints everywhere, everything half-built, no real things to see, searingly hot, full of horrible pissed Russians, nama bay manufactured town full of aggressive tat-pedlars, pissing out your arse so violently you get haemorrhoids.... And now the very real likelihood of getting murdered....

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Crossflow Kid said:
"Launch in to one"? laugh
Go and dry your eyes Princess. If you offered me the advice that the IRA never got you so ISIS aren't worth considering as a risk, I wouldn't just roll my eyes at you, I'd tell you to your face that you're talking complete bks.
The IRA, and their opponents for that matter, have/had a clearly defined political agenda, a strict rank structure and a process of seeking approval and authority (however warped that may have been) for proposed action.
These ISIS nutters are just that....complete fking fruit-loops who do not give a flying fk.....about you, me, themselves, or anything else.
I take it an armchair expert such as yourself is aware that most of these jihadist lone wolf types are usually off their heads on something illegal when they carry out their attacks?
I'm not sure the upper echelons of the Irish parties would've tolerated quite such a liberal and freelance attitude to paramilitary operations.
Finally, if you don't want people rolling their eyes at you, don't post cobblers. There's a dear.
I'm not the one who's afraid of the big bad terrorists. You should have been in Belfast during the troubles, you'd probably have a different opinion of how it was.

Accidentally ending up on the Shankhill road on English plates was far more risky than Sharm.

So how many times have you actually been there?

egor110

16,858 posts

203 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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wack said:
I don't want to go on holiday to places where somebody carrying a bag worries me.

There's plenty of safer places to go so why risk it.
Where's safer?

You have migrants flooding europe from the I.S recruiting grounds do you honestly think none of these people on the boats are islamic state members?

Leptons

5,113 posts

176 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Rosscow said:
I have to say that normally I would fly in the face of this kind of crap, but there's no way I'd risk my family by taking them to Egypt, Turkey, Cyprus, Tunisia etc. at the moment.

Plenty of other places to go on holiday.
Jesus wept. On that basis fk going to Blackpool, Skegness, Whitby in fact barricade yourself inside and don't leave until it's safe.

Just back from a week in Bodrum. I'd go back again tomorrow.

With the exception of Northern Cyprus, it's a Christian country.

towser44

3,492 posts

115 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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I probably wouldn't risk it, having a young daughter. However, I see the slight irrationality in that view, a few years ago on a lads holiday in Benidorm of all places our holiday (sorry drink fuelled 2 weeks of debauchery) was interrupted by a hotel bomb courtesy of Eta!

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
"Launch in to one"? laugh
Go and dry your eyes Princess. If you offered me the advice that the IRA never got you so ISIS aren't worth considering as a risk, I wouldn't just roll my eyes at you, I'd tell you to your face that you're talking complete bks.
The IRA, and their opponents for that matter, have/had a clearly defined political agenda, a strict rank structure and a process of seeking approval and authority (however warped that may have been) for proposed action.
These ISIS nutters are just that....complete fking fruit-loops who do not give a flying fk.....about you, me, themselves, or anything else.
I take it an armchair expert such as yourself is aware that most of these jihadist lone wolf types are usually off their heads on something illegal when they carry out their attacks?
I'm not sure the upper echelons of the Irish parties would've tolerated quite such a liberal and freelance attitude to paramilitary operations.
Finally, if you don't want people rolling their eyes at you, don't post cobblers. There's a dear.
I'm not the one who's afraid of the big bad terrorists. You should have been in Belfast during the troubles, you'd probably have a different opinion of how it was.

Accidentally ending up on the Shankhill road on English plates was far more risky than Sharm.

So how many times have you actually been there?
laugh
You really have no idea.

So now you're comparing 1970s/80s Belfast to North Africa in 2015? Whaddya gonna do next? Regale us with tails of derring do when it was your turn behind the wheel of "The Laundry Van"?
You utter, utter clown.



Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 1st July 00:03

AndrewCrown

2,286 posts

114 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Pincher

Interesting post... it did get me thinking...

I think we all do our own 'Risk Assessment' in anything we do...even what car we drive.. I never really considered Paris risky... or even Madrid.. or Boston.. Kenya was on the edge.. But I'm an evidence based sort of chap.. and despite its shortcomings wikipedia has recorded a comprehensive list of incidents... see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_%28non-state...

I think you might see an overwhelming slant... So for me.. MENA and certain bits of Asia are out for now... I would not risk it... especially if you have kids.

I also understand the gung ho WTF attitude and to some extent I agree, we should not let these people who perpetrate such acts rule our choices on what we do.. But this life is a jungle and I'm in the self preservation camp..

Crossflow.. Winston Chill out guys..

Pincher ... up to 4 hours from the UK are the most amazing places.. Try somewhere different...

Cheers
A


croyde

22,876 posts

230 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Blown2CV said:
Not a fking chance. I went in August about 7 years ago and you can really see why it's cheap. Checkpoints everywhere, everything half-built, no real things to see, searingly hot, full of horrible pissed Russians, nama bay manufactured town full of aggressive tat-pedlars, pissing out your arse so violently you get haemorrhoids.... And now the very real likelihood of getting murdered....
Brilliant hehe

Please write a travel book. I'd buy it.

I've worked in the various lovely countries of the Middle East. No bloody way would I pay to go there.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
"Launch in to one"? laugh
Go and dry your eyes Princess. If you offered me the advice that the IRA never got you so ISIS aren't worth considering as a risk, I wouldn't just roll my eyes at you, I'd tell you to your face that you're talking complete bks.
The IRA, and their opponents for that matter, have/had a clearly defined political agenda, a strict rank structure and a process of seeking approval and authority (however warped that may have been) for proposed action.
These ISIS nutters are just that....complete fking fruit-loops who do not give a flying fk.....about you, me, themselves, or anything else.
I take it an armchair expert such as yourself is aware that most of these jihadist lone wolf types are usually off their heads on something illegal when they carry out their attacks?
I'm not sure the upper echelons of the Irish parties would've tolerated quite such a liberal and freelance attitude to paramilitary operations.
Finally, if you don't want people rolling their eyes at you, don't post cobblers. There's a dear.
I'm not the one who's afraid of the big bad terrorists. You should have been in Belfast during the troubles, you'd probably have a different opinion of how it was.

Accidentally ending up on the Shankhill road on English plates was far more risky than Sharm.

So how many times have you actually been there?
laugh
You really have no idea.

So now you're comparing 1970s/80s Belfast to North Africa in 2015? Whaddya gonna do next? Regale us with tails of derring do when it was your turn behind the wheel of "The Laundry Van"?
You utter, utter clown.



Edited by Crossflow Kid on Wednesday 1st July 00:03
So you've never been to Sharm then...

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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hornetrider said:
Yeah maybe, although I'm not familiar with Zanzibar. I meant mainland Africa.
All of Africa? You won't go to the entire continent?

Blown2CV

28,798 posts

203 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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croyde said:
Please write a travel book. I'd buy it.
i'm a "senior contributor" on tripadvisor, ahem!