Sharm - would you?
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GT03ROB said:
& 10 yrs ago they blew up some trains & a bus killing 50+ & injuring hundreds...... but in London. Is London unsafe??
London's clearly going to be up there on any jihadist's list.But it's a city offering a wealth of culture, tourist sights and attractions which cannot be found elsewhere in the world, i.e. unique experiences which can be used to justify an increased risk over e.g. rural England
Sharm has none of the above, that's the difference. Nothing particularly great, and certainly nothing unique to justify the increased risk.
I also have somewhat more faith in our country's security services.
Hedgeman said:
GT03ROB said:
& 10 yrs ago they blew up some trains & a bus killing 50+ & injuring hundreds...... but in London. Is London unsafe??
London's clearly going to be up there on any jihadist's list.But it's a city offering a wealth of culture, tourist sights and attractions which cannot be found elsewhere in the world, i.e. unique experiences which can be used to justify an increased risk over e.g. rural England
Sharm has none of the above, that's the difference. Nothing particularly great, and certainly nothing unique to justify the increased risk.
I also have somewhat more faith in our country's security services.
Hedgeman said:
Sharm has none of the above, that's the difference. Nothing particularly great, and certainly nothing unique to justify the increased risk.
Not sure I'd call London a Sun Holiday destination!anyway - it's hot when London's cold; it's cleaner than London; there's less wall to wall humanity scrambling for breathing space; there's less day to day violence/crime, there's less scumbags, all the hotels are of a generally high standard, there's the sea to swim, snorkel and dive in....and it does have the best marine parks/reefs for scuba diving within easy reach of the UK.
But you're right - nothing unique. It's just that if you want all the above on a holiday and don't want to go to Egypt you'll have to go a lot further and pay a lot more to find somewhere safer for a holiday.
popeyewhite said:
Not sure I'd call London a Sun Holiday destination!
anyway - it's hot when London's cold; it's cleaner than London; there's less wall to wall humanity scrambling for breathing space; there's less day to day violence/crime, there's less scumbags, all the hotels are of a generally high standard, there's the sea to swim, snorkel and dive in....and it does have the best marine parks/reefs for scuba diving within easy reach of the UK.
But you're right - nothing unique. It's just that if you want all the above on a holiday and don't want to go to Egypt you'll have to go a lot further and pay a lot more to find somewhere safer for a holiday.
Barbadosanyway - it's hot when London's cold; it's cleaner than London; there's less wall to wall humanity scrambling for breathing space; there's less day to day violence/crime, there's less scumbags, all the hotels are of a generally high standard, there's the sea to swim, snorkel and dive in....and it does have the best marine parks/reefs for scuba diving within easy reach of the UK.
But you're right - nothing unique. It's just that if you want all the above on a holiday and don't want to go to Egypt you'll have to go a lot further and pay a lot more to find somewhere safer for a holiday.
Azores
Iceland
Cape Verde
All great at this time of the year in short travel time
GT03ROB said:
Welshbeef said:
GT03ROB said:
Barbados & short travel time do not really go together!! Cape Verde would be a push at short too!!
Cake Verde is the same as Sharm flight timeWelshbeef said:
GT03ROB said:
Welshbeef said:
GT03ROB said:
Barbados & short travel time do not really go together!! Cape Verde would be a push at short too!!
Cake Verde is the same as Sharm flight timeGT03ROB said:
My point was that +5hrs is not short. Crammed in a charter flight or economy for that length of time certainly doesn't feel short!!
Agreed. Don't understand though thought you meant Sharn was great as its short ish and offers diving, whereas there are other places same time offering the same you then say it's a long way... Confused dot com
A Thomson holidays flight had a rocket fired at it in August and it only narrowly missed. I really don't understand the attitude of "ah well I could get run over by a bus tomorrow" in the context of this stuff.
Anyway it's all immaterial as the tourist industry will obviously stop in its tracks and isis will move in to fill the void.
Anyway it's all immaterial as the tourist industry will obviously stop in its tracks and isis will move in to fill the void.
Welshbeef said:
GT03ROB said:
My point was that +5hrs is not short. Crammed in a charter flight or economy for that length of time certainly doesn't feel short!!
Agreed. Don't understand though thought you meant Sharn was great as its short ish and offers diving, whereas there are other places same time offering the same you then say it's a long way... Confused dot com
I've never been to Sharm, I used to use Hurghada/El Gouna (I'll exclude Yanbu from this discussion as you don't get many tourists there!) for diving in the Red Sea. Not been for a few years now, but to be honest got put off by the number of Russians.
Blown2CV said:
A Thomson holidays flight had a rocket fired at it in August and it only narrowly missed. I really don't understand the attitude of "ah well I could get run over by a bus tomorrow" in the context of this stuff.
Anyway it's all immaterial as the tourist industry will obviously stop in its tracks and isis will move in to fill the void.
If people want to go there fine but it's odd that when pushed those individuals don't seem prepared to say pay for a different holiday for their kids I& wife if they don't want to go. I wonder if they will stump up for the UK child care or instead drag them along kicking and screaming. Anyway it's all immaterial as the tourist industry will obviously stop in its tracks and isis will move in to fill the void.
Welshbeef said:
Blown2CV said:
A Thomson holidays flight had a rocket fired at it in August and it only narrowly missed. I really don't understand the attitude of "ah well I could get run over by a bus tomorrow" in the context of this stuff.
Anyway it's all immaterial as the tourist industry will obviously stop in its tracks and isis will move in to fill the void.
If people want to go there fine but it's odd that when pushed those individuals don't seem prepared to say pay for a different holiday for their kids I& wife if they don't want to go. I wonder if they will stump up for the UK child care or instead drag them along kicking and screaming. Anyway it's all immaterial as the tourist industry will obviously stop in its tracks and isis will move in to fill the void.
Welshbeef said:
Blown2CV said:
A Thomson holidays flight had a rocket fired at it in August and it only narrowly missed. I really don't understand the attitude of "ah well I could get run over by a bus tomorrow" in the context of this stuff.
Anyway it's all immaterial as the tourist industry will obviously stop in its tracks and isis will move in to fill the void.
If people want to go there fine but it's odd that when pushed those individuals don't seem prepared to say pay for a different holiday for their kids I& wife if they don't want to go. I wonder if they will stump up for the UK child care or instead drag them along kicking and screaming. Anyway it's all immaterial as the tourist industry will obviously stop in its tracks and isis will move in to fill the void.
t
t. I didn't justify your random hypothetical scenario with a reply before but seeing as you want to have a dig I'll bite.My kids are old enough to pay for their own holidays now, they've done the big Disney and New York stuff and idyllic villas when they were younger, if they want to go away they can work for it and do their own thing...
My missus is the one who booked Sharm, do you have an actual point?
GT03ROB said:
popeyewhite said:
Welshbeef said:
Barbados
Azores
Iceland
Cape Verde
All great at this time of the year in short travel time
None offer the same package that Sharm does.Azores
Iceland
Cape Verde
All great at this time of the year in short travel time
popeyewhite said:
GT03ROB said:
popeyewhite said:
Welshbeef said:
Barbados
Azores
Iceland
Cape Verde
All great at this time of the year in short travel time
None offer the same package that Sharm does.Azores
Iceland
Cape Verde
All great at this time of the year in short travel time
Not great.
Then we have the issues it hat the country is going through huge turmoil/civil unrest - not great location to be in during such events.
Then we have say Tunisia over the years tourists have been gunned down st museums on the beach or round the pool.
You go to these places sadly we are the targets of these terrorists - you might/very likely to be totally safe but just imagine you were in Tunisia this summer wife and kids down on the beach and you'd forgotten the snorkels of blow up ball /whatever so trundle back to the room and then that terrorist stack happened. And let's assume through chance they were thankfully unhurt - but no doubt would be terrified /traumatised I'm highly confident you'd never go near the place ever again even if it was the most wonderful place in the world.
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