Sharm - would you?

[WinstonWolf]

Blown2CV said:

GT03ROB said:

WinstonWolf said:

Blown2CV said:

WinstonWolf said:

I hope you never take the bus in London WB...

We're you alive in the seventies when the IRA were properly active? I was, you learn to just get on with life and stop fretting about what may or may not happen.

over and over with this non-sensical bravado. You seem to seriously think that just because dangers exist in the world, we shouldn't even attempt to avoid any kind of risk. You don't seem to have any concept that risk is variable. When the kids say "YOLO!" at least it can be blamed on the ignorance of youth. It doesn't seem you have that excuse. Even if it was as dangerous in london in the 70s, or on a bus, or "dahn tahn" on a friday night or all the other things you've come out with (which they are not) you seem to be ignoring the idea that you're volunteering for additional risk.

So, let's say a coward such as yourself ..............

A tad unfair methinks WW

he keeps playing this 'hard man' card like some kind of wetherspoons "you looking at ma burd" skinhead, which to be honest if he frequents Sharm he probably is. He's probably had his Christmas tree up for a fortnight already. Anyway if/when faced with a knife, gun or bomb he'd st himself and die like everyone else. I've no idea what he's trying to achieve with the attitude he has because it will amount to nothing if the st hits the fan. He prob thinks he can punch all bullets out the air and then slap all the armed terrorists to death single-handed. Not really seeming to give a st about his family at all.

When you've been bought back from death and spent years recovering from life changing injuries you will understand. Until then you're just some random snob on the Internet.

I've seen relatives spewing blood and god knows what thanks to cancer, watched Alzheimer's slowly destroy others, old age is a thousand times more scary than death, I know because I've been there.

It's not bravado, you know nothing about it when you go suddenly.

As far as I'm concerned a quick death is a privilege, not something to fear. If you want to sit in a home wearing nappies not knowing your own children's names good luck to you but it's not for me.

[jas xjr]

Interestingly it was reported on radio 4 earlier that tour operators are still selling packages for next week

[Welshbeef]

WinstonWolf said:

When you've been bought back from death and spent years recovering from life changing injuries you will understand. Until then you're just some random snob on the Internet.

I've seen relatives spewing blood and god knows what thanks to cancer, watched Alzheimer's slowly destroy others, old age is a thousand times more scary than death, I know because I've been there.

It's not bravado, you know nothing about it when you go suddenly.

As far as I'm concerned a quick death is a privilege, not something to fear. If you want to sit in a home wearing nappies not knowing your own children's names good luck to you but it's not for me.

But (I hope ice got the right poster here - if not discard accordingly) you said you'd take your kids on holiday there and pay for them but if they or your wife refused to go for the concern of safety you wouldn't pay for them to go elsewhere? Also didn't disclose if you'd supply childcare in the UK if they were too young to be home alone.

Can you clarify.





As for

[popeyewhite]

jas xjr said:

Interestingly it was reported on radio 4 earlier that tour operators are still selling packages for next week

Of course they are!! Were tour packages to London halted after the Tube horror? Of course they weren't. Tourism is Egypt's lifeblood and anyway there's other Egyptian resorts much nicer than Sharm.

[Welshbeef]

popeyewhite said:

jas xjr said:

Interestingly it was reported on radio 4 earlier that tour operators are still selling packages for next week

Of course they are!! Were tour packages to London halted after the Tube horror? Of course they weren't. Tourism is Egypt's lifeblood and anyway there's other Egyptian resorts much nicer than Sharm.

Can you fly out there though?

[WinstonWolf]

Welshbeef said:

WinstonWolf said:

When you've been bought back from death and spent years recovering from life changing injuries you will understand. Until then you're just some random snob on the Internet.

I've seen relatives spewing blood and god knows what thanks to cancer, watched Alzheimer's slowly destroy others, old age is a thousand times more scary than death, I know because I've been there.

It's not bravado, you know nothing about it when you go suddenly.

As far as I'm concerned a quick death is a privilege, not something to fear. If you want to sit in a home wearing nappies not knowing your own children's names good luck to you but it's not for me.

But (I hope ice got the right poster here - if not discard accordingly) you said you'd take your kids on holiday there and pay for them but if they or your wife refused to go for the concern of safety you wouldn't pay for them to go elsewhere? Also didn't disclose if you'd supply childcare in the UK if they were too young to be home alone.

Can you clarify.





As for

Not me, my missus booked the holiday and is still happy to go, hopefully I've explained my reasons clearly. When you've spent months strung up in a hospital bed you have plenty of opportunity to contemplate your own mortality and it changes you forever.

I get that a lot of people will think it weird, but I feel lucky that I dealt with the whole death thing thirty odd years ago and I've been free to live the rest of my life without worrying about it.

Care homes scare me a sight more than terrorists

[Blown2CV]

WinstonWolf said:

Blown2CV said:

GT03ROB said:

WinstonWolf said:

Blown2CV said:

WinstonWolf said:

I hope you never take the bus in London WB...

We're you alive in the seventies when the IRA were properly active? I was, you learn to just get on with life and stop fretting about what may or may not happen.

over and over with this non-sensical bravado. You seem to seriously think that just because dangers exist in the world, we shouldn't even attempt to avoid any kind of risk. You don't seem to have any concept that risk is variable. When the kids say "YOLO!" at least it can be blamed on the ignorance of youth. It doesn't seem you have that excuse. Even if it was as dangerous in london in the 70s, or on a bus, or "dahn tahn" on a friday night or all the other things you've come out with (which they are not) you seem to be ignoring the idea that you're volunteering for additional risk.

So, let's say a coward such as yourself ..............

A tad unfair methinks WW

he keeps playing this 'hard man' card like some kind of wetherspoons "you looking at ma burd" skinhead, which to be honest if he frequents Sharm he probably is. He's probably had his Christmas tree up for a fortnight already. Anyway if/when faced with a knife, gun or bomb he'd st himself and die like everyone else. I've no idea what he's trying to achieve with the attitude he has because it will amount to nothing if the st hits the fan. He prob thinks he can punch all bullets out the air and then slap all the armed terrorists to death single-handed. Not really seeming to give a st about his family at all.

When you've been bought back from death and spent years recovering from life changing injuries you will understand. Until then you're just some random snob on the Internet.

I've seen relatives spewing blood and god knows what thanks to cancer, watched Alzheimer's slowly destroy others, old age is a thousand times more scary than death, I know because I've been there.

It's not bravado, you know nothing about it when you go suddenly.

As far as I'm concerned a quick death is a privilege, not something to fear. If you want to sit in a home wearing nappies not knowing your own children's names good luck to you but it's not for me.

Fine if you're not arsed about dying. However, what about the other people in your holiday party? Are your entire family quite happy to die; you've just done a really good selling job on them, or does it not even get discussed for fear of how Dad might react?

I still don't think you're quite getting the idea that choosing a holiday is not really about choosing a quick or a slow death... it tends to be more about the weather, maybe beaches, sights to see, nice food - you know, things like that. You seem to continually be saying you'd prefer to die quickly, so therefore you're off to Sharm. Not really how I like to pick my holidays I have to say.

Anyway if you want to take a death holiday, i hear switzerland is lovely this time of year.

[WinstonWolf]

Try reading what I wrote and you'll see I've already answered that at least three times. Do you struggle with comprehension, or is it just your prejudices and preconceptions?

[okgo]

OP - not a snowballs chance in hell would I go there, and then the recent events happened...I would not go there if you paid me.

WW - all very well, but why not just go somewhere without any of these issues, of which there must be plenty, you get your cheap sun fix and there is almost no chance of danger.

I remember my primary school teacher going to Yemen back in the 90's, I'm sure people told her not to, she got shot dead by terrorists...

Edited by okgo on Monday 9th November 21:08

[Welshbeef]

WinstonWolf said:

Not me, my missus booked the holiday and is still happy to go, hopefully I've explained my reasons clearly. When you've spent months strung up in a hospital bed you have plenty of opportunity to contemplate your own mortality and it changes you forever.

I get that a lot of people will think it weird, but I feel lucky that I dealt with the whole death thing thirty odd years ago and I've been free to live the rest of my life without worrying about it.

Care homes scare me a sight more than terrorists

Ok now given you've had that life changing experience surely you want to see as much of the world as possible over repeating the same holiday over and over

[Blown2CV]

Welshbeef said:

WinstonWolf said:

Not me, my missus booked the holiday and is still happy to go, hopefully I've explained my reasons clearly. When you've spent months strung up in a hospital bed you have plenty of opportunity to contemplate your own mortality and it changes you forever.

I get that a lot of people will think it weird, but I feel lucky that I dealt with the whole death thing thirty odd years ago and I've been free to live the rest of my life without worrying about it.

Care homes scare me a sight more than terrorists

Ok now given you've had that life changing experience surely you want to see as much of the world as possible over repeating the same holiday over and over

I've only realised in recent years that most people actually don't give a st about seeing the world, and place more value on a holiday that's predictable than one where new things happen. It blows my mind but it's pointless debating it. One of Mrs 2cv's mate is like that. Lanzarote for every holiday. When asked what places in the world she'd like to see, she replied that she wasn't bothered as "a beach is a beach". Preconceptions aren't inherently false. If I ever started to think like that I'd probably not be arsed about getting blown up either.

[popeyewhite]

Welshbeef said:

popeyewhite said:

jas xjr said:

Interestingly it was reported on radio 4 earlier that tour operators are still selling packages for next week

Of course they are!! Were tour packages to London halted after the Tube horror? Of course they weren't. Tourism is Egypt's lifeblood and anyway there's other Egyptian resorts much nicer than Sharm.

Can you fly out there though?

Flights to Sharm this Saturday. One adult, £292. Monarch.

http://www.skyscanner.net/transport/flights/man/ss...

[MarshPhantom]

Blown2CV said:

Welshbeef said:

WinstonWolf said:

Not me, my missus booked the holiday and is still happy to go, hopefully I've explained my reasons clearly. When you've spent months strung up in a hospital bed you have plenty of opportunity to contemplate your own mortality and it changes you forever.

I get that a lot of people will think it weird, but I feel lucky that I dealt with the whole death thing thirty odd years ago and I've been free to live the rest of my life without worrying about it.

Care homes scare me a sight more than terrorists

Ok now given you've had that life changing experience surely you want to see as much of the world as possible over repeating the same holiday over and over

I've only realised in recent years that most people actually don't give a st about seeing the world, and place more value on a holiday that's predictable than one where new things happen. It blows my mind but it's pointless debating it. One of Mrs 2cv's mate is like that. Lanzarote for every holiday. When asked what places in the world she'd like to see, she replied that she wasn't bothered as "a beach is a beach". Preconceptions aren't inherently false. If I ever started to think like that I'd probably not be arsed about getting blown up either.

I don't know why new experience is desirable on a holiday. If you had a great time somewhere would you not got back as been there done that?

[Welshbeef]

popeyewhite said:

Welshbeef said:

popeyewhite said:

jas xjr said:

Interestingly it was reported on radio 4 earlier that tour operators are still selling packages for next week

Of course they are!! Were tour packages to London halted after the Tube horror? Of course they weren't. Tourism is Egypt's lifeblood and anyway there's other Egyptian resorts much nicer than Sharm.

Can you fly out there though?

Flights to Sharm this Saturday. One adult, £292. Monarch.

http://www.skyscanner.net/transport/flights/man/ss...

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/09/uk-flights-to-sharm-el-sheikh-halted-two-more-weeks-security-russian-plane-crash

Seems you cannot for at least two more weeks.

[WinstonWolf]

Blown2CV said:

Welshbeef said:

WinstonWolf said:

Not me, my missus booked the holiday and is still happy to go, hopefully I've explained my reasons clearly. When you've spent months strung up in a hospital bed you have plenty of opportunity to contemplate your own mortality and it changes you forever.

I get that a lot of people will think it weird, but I feel lucky that I dealt with the whole death thing thirty odd years ago and I've been free to live the rest of my life without worrying about it.

Care homes scare me a sight more than terrorists

Ok now given you've had that life changing experience surely you want to see as much of the world as possible over repeating the same holiday over and over

I've only realised in recent years that most people actually don't give a st about seeing the world, and place more value on a holiday that's predictable than one where new things happen. It blows my mind but it's pointless debating it. One of Mrs 2cv's mate is like that. Lanzarote for every holiday. When asked what places in the world she'd like to see, she replied that she wasn't bothered as "a beach is a beach". Preconceptions aren't inherently false. If I ever started to think like that I'd probably not be arsed about getting blown up either.

Yours is a prejudice, not a preconception...

So, where do "decent" people such as yourself go on holiday?

[popeyewhite]

Welshbeef said:

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/09/uk...

Seems you cannot for at least two more weeks.

Oh honestly give it a rest. While Cameron and parts of the UK run round like headless chickens the rest of the world just gets on with it. Is it too hard to check your facts before you post? Cameron, in a knee jerk reaction and pointless gesture, has stopped BRITISH flights.

Flights to Sharm this Saturday:
http://www.skyscanner.net/transport/flights/man/ss...

[popeyewhite]

WinstonWolf said:

So, where do "decent" people such as yourself go on holiday?

He's off to Thailand, a land where no terrorism has ever touched. Wouldn't you just know the snob's a hypocrite?

[WinstonWolf]

popeyewhite said:

WinstonWolf said:

So, where do "decent" people such as yourself go on holiday?

He's off to Thailand, a land where no terrorism has ever touched. Wouldn't you just know the snob's a hypocrite?

Isn't that where everyone goes ladyboy hunting?

/SweepingGeneralisationsAreInvariablyWrong

[fido]

okgo said:

I remember my primary school teacher going to Yemen back in the 90's, I'm sure people told her not to, she got shot dead by terrorists...

Ditto - colleague in another country. At the end of the day, if you are made aware of the risks and decide to go anyway - it's your choice and we all take risks in different areas of life. I wouldn't call anyone stupid but if the ONLY reason for going is to spend a cheap week in the sun ...

[okgo]

I'm struggling to think of other reasons to go to Sharm, and as I said, there must be other cheap places not so closely linked with recent terror activity?