Sharm - would you?

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popeyewhite

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120 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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okgo said:
I'm struggling to think of other reasons to go to Sharm, and as I said, there must be other cheap places not so closely linked with recent terror activity?
The main factors as I see it are it's close, hot, and good VFM.

Maybe not such good VFM if terrorists are up to no good. Sharm is, in fact, probably the least nice of a number of other Egyptian resorts on the Red Sea (although actually Sharm is on the Gulf of Aqaba), so people can still go to those. The diving is generally much better in other, more southerly resorts, as well.

nitrodave

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138 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
I don't know why new experience is desirable on a holiday. If you had a great time somewhere would you not got back as been there done that?
It's not one or the other though. I go to (northern) Ibiza each summer for a relaxing sun kissed beach holiday. As long as you avoid san antonio the rest of the island is amazing and pretty quiet. It's our regular choice of destination and because of the 'party' reputation, many people remain ignorant to what else is there.

That's not all we do though, I'm off to Patagonia in a few weeks for the experience. I always enjoy going to new places and suspect that once I'm done there I won't want to go back.


okgo

38,055 posts

198 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Quite, with most people getting around 25 days holiday a year, it doesn't have to be one or the other. Though funds may well limit holidays I suppose.

Welshbeef

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198 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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popeyewhite said:
Welshbeef said:
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/09/uk...

Seems you cannot for at least two more weeks.
Oh honestly give it a rest. While Cameron and parts of the UK run round like headless chickens the rest of the world just gets on with it. Is it too hard to check your facts before you post? Cameron, in a knee jerk reaction and pointless gesture, has stopped BRITISH flights.

Flights to Sharm this Saturday:
http://www.skyscanner.net/transport/flights/man/ss...
Given our Govt has done this IF an individual gets there another way does it invalidate their travel insurances? Or do you all play fast and loose

CountZero23

1,288 posts

178 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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I've never fancied Egypt due to the constant unrest and the whole package holiday image. Certainly not worth all the bother an extra risk if you just want a cheap beach holiday and certainly not some where I'd expect famailies to consider now.

That said diving the blue hole at Dahab looks incredible and would more than justify the relativly small risk.

Diving holiday of a lifetime, I'd go in a flash. Nice family holiday - fk that.






The Moose

22,849 posts

209 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Went a fair few years ago. Didn't particularly enjoy it. Wouldn't go back anyway.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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A discussion on R4 tonight about it lots of "Deals" and the question why would anyone go.

The answer from an expert said there are actually a proportion of the population who actively search out places where terrible things have happened that they are wired into it a curiosity or morbid macabre if you like.

popeyewhite

19,902 posts

120 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Given our Govt has done this IF an individual gets there another way does it invalidate their travel insurances? Or do you all play fast and loose
It can't invalidate my insurance as I have an annual blanket travel policy. Regardless, someone will always insure you against loss but may add a hefty premium if you're going to a country that the Foreign Office has advised against visiting.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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popeyewhite said:
Welshbeef said:
Given our Govt has done this IF an individual gets there another way does it invalidate their travel insurances? Or do you all play fast and loose
It can't invalidate my insurance as I have an annual blanket travel policy. Regardless, someone will always insure you against loss but may add a hefty premium if you're going to a country that the Foreign Office has advised against visiting.
Have a read of your T&Cs id be fairly sure if a govt instruction stating it is not safe to fly to and you decide to go anyway you are not covered.

A bit like ski insurance IF you go off piste and have an accident there you are not insured as its a clear policy - ditto any booze while skiing if your caught you will be paying for all medical treatment and any emergency flights home.

Blown2CV

28,831 posts

203 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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popeyewhite said:
WinstonWolf said:
So, where do "decent" people such as yourself go on holiday?
He's off to Thailand, a land where no terrorism has ever touched. Wouldn't you just know the snob's a hypocrite? laugh
so why is that hypocritical? I have never said you shouldn't go anywhere where there has ever been any trouble, quite the fking opposite. You and your little mate have repeatedly misunderstood what I've been saying - but that's OK as you've demonstrated you have no real concept that there are levels of risk so I don't expect you to get it, all of a sudden. I have no problem with balanced risk, so consequently I have no problem with going to thailand, because the temple bomb was a single incident not targeting foreigners. Sharm is not that - there have been repeated incidents, all targeting tourists and westerners en masse; why the fk you think that's the same thing I have no idea. Sharm is a sthole with nothing to offer, it's far too dangerous now, and on top of it all, it's full of scummers. So, have fun, and good luck punching that rocket out of the fking sky.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Blown2CV said:
popeyewhite said:
WinstonWolf said:
So, where do "decent" people such as yourself go on holiday?
He's off to Thailand, a land where no terrorism has ever touched. Wouldn't you just know the snob's a hypocrite? laugh
so why is that hypocritical? I have never said you shouldn't go anywhere where there has ever been any trouble, quite the fking opposite. You and your little mate have repeatedly misunderstood what I've been saying - but that's OK as you've demonstrated you have no real concept that there are levels of risk so I don't expect you to get it, all of a sudden. I have no problem with balanced risk, so consequently I have no problem with going to thailand, because the temple bomb was a single incident not targeting foreigners. Sharm is not that - there have been repeated incidents, all targeting tourists and westerners en masse; why the fk you think that's the same thing I have no idea. Sharm is a sthole with nothing to offer, it's far too dangerous now, and on top of it all, it's full of scummers. So, have fun, and good luck punching that rocket out of the fking sky.


popeyewhite

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120 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Have a read of your T&Cs id be fairly sure if a govt instruction stating it is not safe to fly to and you decide to go anyway you are not covered.
What - to fly? Or to visit the country? I think you're getting a bit confused here. Do you think Cameron is advising not travelling to Egypt?
Welshbeef said:
A bit like ski insurance IF you go off piste and have an accident there you are not insured as its a clear policy - ditto any booze while skiing if your caught you will be paying for all medical treatment and any emergency flights home.
I don't drink and my ski insurance covers off piste. wink

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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popeyewhite said:
Welshbeef said:
Have a read of your T&Cs id be fairly sure if a govt instruction stating it is not safe to fly to and you decide to go anyway you are not covered.
What - to fly? Or to visit the country? I think you're getting a bit confused here. Do you think Cameron is advising not travelling to Egypt?
Welshbeef said:
A bit like ski insurance IF you go off piste and have an accident there you are not insured as its a clear policy - ditto any booze while skiing if your caught you will be paying for all medical treatment and any emergency flights home.
I don't drink and my ski insurance covers off piste. wink
Could you share who gives you this cover?

Any non religious reason you don't drink?

popeyewhite

19,902 posts

120 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Could you share who gives you this cover?
Last year it was Tesco. This year it's...hold on...Admiral. Cover includes 'occasional' off piste this time. Previously for a specific off piste holiday in Les Arcs I've used SkiClub insurance.

Welshbeef said:
Any non religious reason you don't drink?
Gave up years ago, got bored with it. I'll have the odd beer of a night time when on holiday, non-alcoholic if it's available.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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popeyewhite said:
Gave up years ago, got bored with it. I'll have the odd beer of a night time when on holiday, non-alcoholic if it's available.
Fair play.

Off topic I've tried a few non alcohol beers the ones I've tried were really poor to the point of not buy those again. If there is s good enough non alcoholic beer as in same taste as with alcohol beer (the ones which I like) is happily switch.

Imagine sitting at the office desk chugging what appears to be a beer (or while driving) smile

popeyewhite

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Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Welshbeef said:
If there is s good enough non alcoholic beer as in same taste as with alcohol beer (the ones which I like) is happily switch.
This is the problem, there's very few decent tasting non/low alcohol beer alternatives. Kaliber can be OK. In most cases fizzy water tastes better, lol.

Welshbeef

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198 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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popeyewhite said:
Welshbeef said:
If there is s good enough non alcoholic beer as in same taste as with alcohol beer (the ones which I like) is happily switch.
This is the problem, there's very few decent tasting non/low alcohol beer alternatives. Kaliber can be OK. In most cases fizzy water tastes better, lol.
Kaliber is rubbish.
You should try some of the Munich 0% Pauliner etc miles better than Kaliber but still not there for me - I'd like to find one and then could quit the alcohol very easily as I enjoy the flavour side effects are a welcome bonus.