Hotel thief.

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R E S T E C P

660 posts

105 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Du1point8 said:
R E S T E C P said:
Muzzer79 said:
Does nobody else use the safe in the room?
No, if they want to steal my valuables they're going to have to put in the effort to find them. I'm not just putting them all in one convenient location for them!
Eh?

Not sure i follow unless there is a master override on the safes... which I don't think I ever want to know about if there is.
sorry hehe

GCH

3,991 posts

202 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Like the OP, I stay in more hotels around the world per year than many do in a lifetime.
I have never ever used a hotel safe, and the very first thing I do when I check in is put the do not disturb sign on the door, where it remains until I leave, regardless of length of stay.

There should be no-one in my room at any time, unless I invite them- period. I don't need housekeeping - I don't really care if the bed is made or not, and if I happen to need new towels or something I will ask for them.

Never had anything stolen.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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slit their nostrils open with a boat hooks too good for em

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Do not disturb sign used.
Room safe used.

Has done the job for me over the past 25 years.

On the rare occasion when I do have anything more valuable, I use the hotel safety deposit.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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As mentioned. Do not disturb sign.

Got done in one, out of view of the camera. Thief stole the cleaners key card, all logged on the lock so proof it was broken into. Thing is, the first door out of sight of the camera had a "do not disturb" sign on. The next one, ours, did not. Just cash, we had the rest of the paper work on us. Sign seems to work.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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i never use hotel safes, too easy to break.(for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOdmMb90YEE)

i hide money and passport under carpet or crannies, works for me.

Sheepshanks

32,749 posts

119 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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R E S T E C P said:
Nezquick said:
55palfers said:
Muzzer79 said:
Does nobody else use the safe in the room?
Always.

I'm pretty sure travel insurance would not cover the theft of valuables not locked in the safe??
Exactly - it's the first thing I do when I get to any hotel. Everything of value goes in the safe, passport, cards, spare money, watch, rings etc etc. My wife has to hand over all of her stuff too.

I'm not saying the safe can't be opened by someone else (apparently the coded ones are ridiculously easy to get into) but it might put off the opportunist thief.
It's the first place they'll look and 9/10 times the master code will be the default 0000 or 1234
I couldn't open one in the US and it was a faff to open it - they had to connect a hand-held device and then talk to the safe company and after a lot of back and forth and keying numbers into the device they opened it.

so called

Original Poster:

9,086 posts

209 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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I just wrote a long reply to you all, thanking and acknoledgiing my mistakes and then lost it in the bowels of my blinking phone.
Anyway, sorry not clarified, to say approx,.-
SP$10,-
AUS$10,-
C$45,-
US65,-
€85,-
Yes I've got lax after so many years without issue.
'Do not disturb' on the door but this trip I didn't.

Anyway, the loss of receipts was far more expensive than the cash.
It equates to a very unprofessional hotel that professes to be a business hotel.
The crap attitude when I complained of the missing receipts was the maker of my decision even before I discovered the empty wallet.
Every hotel knows that anything that is not in one of their many room bins means that it still belongs to the guest.

Yes I let myself down but....
Tomorrow I'll be speaking with their manager to see his response.
If he is dismissive then he will have a few things to deal with.

Just also to say, never used a room safe after advise from a US colleague.

My Indian colleague wants to open a report with the Bangelore police. He's upset because he booked the rooms.

Anyway next week I will be more interested in my normal first world problems, so ba11ick5, it's nearly weekend.


Issi

1,782 posts

150 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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I had to play devils advocate, but if the cleaner saw a pile of crinkled paper next to an empty box, then it's not a huge step to think that this was rubbish and to lob it into the bin.

jpringle819

719 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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I was in a hotel in Chatham a couple of years ago in a ground floor room. It was summer and I had the window open as far as the security latch would allow. It was my first night and I had been up since 04:00 so was actually in bed by 19:00. I was woken by an almighty crash and saw someone climbing in the window. They had used a sledgehammer to break off the security lock, I can only assume that they thought I would be in the bar or restaurant at that time. On finding a 6'2" naked man weighing almost 20 stone they very soon found a way back out.

shep1001

4,599 posts

189 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Only had stuff pinched once in twenty years from a hotel in Birmingham. They did it properly, watch, ring, laptop, wallet & car. They did my bosses room too but left the keys to his car on the seat when they realised what a st box of a company car he had.

Always use the safe & make sure you are insured for your personal stuff away from home & with a high enough limit to cover multiple high value items. Don't expect the hotel to be that interested either

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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I always demand the hotel safe!


so called

Original Poster:

9,086 posts

209 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Issi said:
I had to play devils advocate, but if the cleaner saw a pile of crinkled paper next to an empty box, then it's not a huge step to think that this was rubbish and to lob it into the bin.
I take your point but,the cleaners are normally trained not to take anything that is not binned. International.

The whole experience makes me question this hotels training policy. Or lack of.

Happy to say I'm back in a hotel I can trust for the weekend 😊

Jazoli

9,100 posts

250 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Hotel safes are not secure in the slightest, I am a FM for a large hotel chain and all hotel safes have a master code, and most have never been changed since they left the factory, they are an extra level of security and better than leaving things out in the open but not really that 'safe', a do not disturb sign is better as you are left alone and no-one should be entering the room, and any thief would think it is occupied.

Edited by Jazoli on Thursday 18th August 21:42

Jamesgt

848 posts

233 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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I've been travelling for about 10 years with work. About a month ago I had my first incident of theft. The cleaner stole my wedding ring when I was staying at a hotel in Rome. I saw the cleaner exiting my room and she played dumb, the manager played dumb. Ass holes.

On the other end of the scale I left a pair of expensive sunglasses in my room at the Hilton Stansted. I couldn't remember what I'd done with them but I thought I may have left them at the hotel so I rang them a month after I originally lost them. Sure enough they had them safe.

bad company

18,561 posts

266 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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Yes hotel room safes are fairly useless but where else can you keep currency & passports etc?

Du1point8

21,607 posts

192 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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bad company said:
Yes hotel room safes are fairly useless but where else can you keep currency & passports etc?
hotel safe

bad company

18,561 posts

266 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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Du1point8 said:
bad company said:
Yes hotel room safes are fairly useless but where else can you keep currency & passports etc?
hotel safe
That's the only solution but a bit of a PIA.

sooperscoop

408 posts

163 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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bad company said:
Yes hotel room safes are fairly useless but where else can you keep currency & passports etc?
Under the bottom drawer or under the minibar fridge. Or a colleague has a plastic bag with a hook that he hangs behind the wall mounted TV or picture.

Personally, I just stuff anything valuable inside some folded up jeans/laundry bag of death in my case.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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sooperscoop said:
Under the bottom drawer or under the minibar fridge. Or a colleague has a plastic bag with a hook that he hangs behind the wall mounted TV or picture.

Personally, I just stuff anything valuable inside some folded up jeans/laundry bag of death in my case.
Keep them in a lockable suitcase.