Driving to Méribel advice

Driving to Méribel advice

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prand

5,915 posts

196 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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2 yrs ago (2 adults & kids), overnight drive to Les Gets. Took about 7.5 hours from Calais (around 11hrs door to door from Berks), with 2 pit stops on the Autoroute to swap drivers fill up with diesel and grab a coffee.

- Eurotunnel was about £150 for a non flexible ticket - there are different prices depending on time/flexibility

- Fuel: 2-3 fill ups of diesel total for there and back (c £150-200)

- Tolls: about £70 in tolls

- Car insurance £0.00 as have free green card with policy
- European breakdown cover £0.00 as comes with bank account
- Hi-viz vests, breathalysers, beam deflectors, spare bulbs etc £0.00 - already owned
- Screen wash up to -20C £6.00
- Snow chains - c £35.00
- Plastic shovel off eBay (£5.00)
- Gloves, tools, torch, cloths, mats, spare tools, leatherman etc - already owned

So all in all, it's a cheap way to transport 4 people. It was great for us as the kids were quite small, we still had a buggy and dragging the lot around Gatwick to Geneva or Chambery then onto transfer bus would have been a pain. If you do it right you could get get 8 days on the snow rather than the usual 6. Slept very well on the first night once arrived.

As we were self catering, we were also able to pack a Tesco delivery straight into the car before we left, plus freeze up a few pre cooked meals ready to defrost (lasagne, shepherds pie etc).





lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Thats the thing, i think last year cost me alone, £350ish roughly for plane + transfer return to Chamonix from Luton to Geneva (didnt help that it was the same time as the GVA motorshow).

im tempted to drive this year, if i can find a buddy to do it with then it works out to be cheaper that 2 flying.

WestyCarl

3,248 posts

125 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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We (2 adults, 2 youngish kids) have flown and driven and reckon that in school holidays the car is min £1k cheaper.

Thus we spent £600 on a set on winter wheels and tyres and now drive all the time.

jonny996

2,614 posts

217 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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I do it regularly from Edinburgh to Chomonix, it always comes in at approx. £700 all in return to take the car, that cost covers everything including the stay over room. I much more prefer driving as I am not a keen flyer & it lets you take a lot more kit.

Jarcy

1,559 posts

275 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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For school holidays, driving is the only way to make it economical.
Tour operators load every part of your package over say, Feb half term so a basic £800/head package becomes £1,600.

If you drive and do it independently staying in a rented apartment, then the only part of the holiday that's loaded is the apartment.
And the loading is far less severe. So a £1k apartment for 4 may increase to £1.5k, but the increment for your party is very manageable.

Gotta book well in advance of course.

feef

5,206 posts

183 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Jarcy said:
For school holidays, driving is the only way to make it economical.
Tour operators load every part of your package over say, Feb half term so a basic £800/head package becomes £1,600.

If you drive and do it independently staying in a rented apartment, then the only part of the holiday that's loaded is the apartment.
And the loading is far less severe. So a £1k apartment for 4 may increase to £1.5k, but the increment for your party is very manageable.

Gotta book well in advance of course.
that's what I find.

As it's just me and the wee man, I can get a studio apartment at half term, and all travel, lift passes, instruction and whatnot for a tad over £1500. When a package holiday at half term charges around £1500 per head, it's definitely worth the drive, especially as I can carry more stuff and stock up on more goodies for the drive home.

Rosscow

8,765 posts

163 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Driving to skiing is brilliant.

Have done it many times - Val D'Isere, Flaine, Les Carroz, La Tania (twice), Tignes, Val Thorens, etc. etc.

Last time was to La Tania.

Arrived in Calais at around 3am and by 11am we were skiing in La Tania.

Don't get me wrong, a couple of beers with dinner and I was out for the count by 8pm, but it's a great way to get there and you get an extra day skiing.

Audi A6 Quattro with winter tyres = unstoppable.

LFB531

1,233 posts

158 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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I did Meribel New Year before last, drove from Bath leaving 4pm ish via the Tunnel and ran through the night as the solo driver with two sleepy heads on board.

Like others on here, I just paced the journey to suit how I felt. There is a natural break at the tunnel for me after three hours. After that, I stopped probably every two hours before having a decent snooze in the car at Lyon. The run along to Moutiers although busy was fine and then straight up.

Coming home in the daylight was easy enough but it seems twice as far as going down!

prand

5,915 posts

196 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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LFB531 said:
Coming home in the daylight was easy enough but it seems twice as far as going down!
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Agreed, I hate the drive home from anywhere I've been enjoying myself. In our instance it did take longer too, as we drove back in the morning. We had to stop to let the kids out of the car to let of some steam, as they would go mental after every couple of hours. We made sure we had a tablet and headphones fully loaded with films which helped a lot.

housen

2,366 posts

192 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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ull need chains if going up hill with snow on the ground .....fact

Jarcy

1,559 posts

275 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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housen said:
ull need chains if going up hill with snow on the ground .....fact
You'll need to carry them yes, - but with 'winters' you'll probably not need to use them.

housen

2,366 posts

192 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Jarcy said:
housen said:
ull need chains if going up hill with snow on the ground .....fact
You'll need to carry them yes, - but with 'winters' you'll probably not need to use them.
my only benchmark is that I have very good winters on

but when going up hill im all over the place

my car however is a clio sport 200 ...should have bought a golf :-(

LFB531

1,233 posts

158 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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prand said:
LFB531 said:
Coming home in the daylight was easy enough but it seems twice as far as going down!
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Agreed, I hate the drive home from anywhere I've been enjoying myself. In our instance it did take longer too, as we drove back in the morning. We had to stop to let the kids out of the car to let of some steam, as they would go mental after every couple of hours. We made sure we had a tablet and headphones fully loaded with films which helped a lot.
I've tried the 'coming home after supper' option on the last day as well but wouldn't do that again. Zero traffic and a very quiet car but that was properly hard work. I'm getting too old for that although everyone else was bright and bushy the next day. I just wanted to die and completely get the idea of sleep deprivation as an interrogation tool! smile

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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brickwall said:
Yipper said:
There is a high risk of robbery on the motorways and service stations on the way to the French ski resorts.
No, no there is not. What planet are you on? Even your crazy DM link is 13 years old.

You're less likely to be robbed on the roads up to the resorts than you are in almost anywhere in any city in the UK. If you're worried about robbery on French ski resort roads, I suggest you wrap yourself up in cotton wool and never leave the house.

Driving through the nasty bits of Johannesburg late at night - that's a high risk of robbery.

Utter claptrap.
Yes, there is.

Around 10 miĺlion Euros taken in France motorway robberies in the past month. And at least one UK family and one UK popstar robbed at motorway services in the past month.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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bulldong said:
FYI Neither winter tyres or snow chains are mandatory in France.
FYI, where these signs are shown, dotted all over the French Alps, snowchains are mandatory.

It is why mountain traffic is so bad, nowadays. Way too many heros on the road.


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Yipper said:
bulldong said:
FYI Neither winter tyres or snow chains are mandatory in France.
FYI, where these signs are shown, dotted all over the French Alps, snowchains are mandatory.

It is why mountain traffic is so bad, nowadays. Way too many heros on the road.

It's not mandatory, if there is no snow on the road, and even then, still not mandatory if you have winter tyres providing you can make progress and stop. If you have summer tyres it is only mandatory when there is snow on the road.

Marcellus

7,119 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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They are actually "obligatory" what the legal difference between this and mandatory I'm not sure, and I'd go so far as to suggest neither do the ASVPs who will be manning the check point.

Real world if you have a 2 wheel drive car they will stop you and tell you to put snow chains on.

If they know you or your French is very good and you have snow tyres then they may let you through but will warn you that you do so at your own risk.

If you have a local plated 4x4 they will more often stop you and offer some words of caution and let you know how bad it is.

The other thing is than an ASVP is the french equivelent of our Special Constables.. In that they can't make you do anything or arrest you if you do something.

Jarcy

1,559 posts

275 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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housen said:
Jarcy said:
housen said:
ull need chains if going up hill with snow on the ground .....fact
You'll need to carry them yes, - but with 'winters' you'll probably not need to use them.
my only benchmark is that I have very good winters on

but when going up hill im all over the place

my car however is a clio sport 200 ...should have bought a golf :-(
I love driving on snow with 'winters'. I've done it with FWD and RWD cars. There is slippage, but it feels a bit like driving through mud. Predictable grip and no problems stopping. I guess it would only be more challenging when conditions were icy rather than softish snow.

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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Jarcy said:
For school holidays, driving is the only way to make it economical.
Tour operators load every part of your package over say, Feb half term so a basic £800/head package becomes £1,600.

If you drive and do it independently staying in a rented apartment, then the only part of the holiday that's loaded is the apartment.
And the loading is far less severe. So a £1k apartment for 4 may increase to £1.5k, but the increment for your party is very manageable.

Gotta book well in advance of course.
The other thing to mention re school holidays is you need to plan the return journey home carefully....if you get to Calais at 5pm on the return Saturday in half term week expect to spend an awfully long time stuck in traffic. Couple of mates have....we're talking several hours of delays. You need to be leaving the Alps at 4am if you're doing it in one hit.

ladderino

727 posts

139 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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waterwonder said:
CrutyRammers said:
Tolls about 70 quid when we went to annecy this summer, each way.
The train sounds relaxing but it's bloody awful, honestly the most uncomfortable thing this side of a third world gaol. Driving isn't bad but very tiring, unless you can split the driving, 2-3 hours a stretch, then it's fine.
Are you talking about the overnight service or the day service? I can't see how the day one can be that bad but I'll guess I'll find out. I'm getting it to Lyon then taking a chalet transfer, leave London at 7am and should be in resort late afternoon which seems pretty good.
A mate of mine used to commute to Brussels on the Eurostar, so picked up a lot of loyalty points - he treated us to the Eurostar down to Moutiers for a weekender a few years ago.

It was the overnighter, and despite being in first class, was horrible. First few hours were great, but then bar abruptly shut before midnight, and so only thing left to do was try to sleep, which turned out to be impossible.

You end up getting into Bourg at a crazy early time, and I think we then weren't able to get up to Les Arcs because the funicular wasn't running yet.


Otherwise, I've done the drive several times. both as a kid when my parents used to take us to Meribel, and more recently with my own kids (albeit during summer, and not all the way into the mountains). Agree with all of the points made here, but would just add that despite how far it looks on the map, driving that distance in France isn't actually that difficult. Lane discipline is far better in France than over here, and the roads tend not to be as busy either (although that clearly depends on dates on travel).

Most of my mates also drive down to France for skiing, I've never ever heard a story of being robbed at a service station before.