Abbey Road webcam - madness
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heebeegeetee said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Car at fault. She looked like she instinctively changed her direction when she saw the car was coming and was then carried some distance by the impact.
Look at the picture in Simoids post. She is on the crossing, she has precedence, the car must stop, end of.heebeegeetee said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Car at fault. She looked like she instinctively changed her direction when she saw the car was coming and was then carried some distance by the impact.
Look at the picture in Simoids post. She is on the crossing, she has precedence, the car must stop, end of.Still photos only tell half the story as they don't account for the speed she was running - it was a full on sprint which means there was less time for the Golf to see her.
That being said, the Golf driver is at least partly to blame, because you really should be aware of things like this at zebra crossings, and should be super vigilant.
But the girl is still an idiot.
That being said, the Golf driver is at least partly to blame, because you really should be aware of things like this at zebra crossings, and should be super vigilant.
But the girl is still an idiot.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Unlucky, I'll bet she's much more careful next time, totally her own fault. youngsyr said:
Regardless of what the law says, the pedestrian acted in a monumentally stupid way and therefore must take some of the responsibility.
Running out in front of a car without either checking first or simply expecting it to stop is a ridiculous thing to do - especially in London and even more so on that crossing.
Legally I wouldn't be surprised if the driver had the book thrown at him - he could see that the pedestrian was approaching the crossing and should have stopped rather than try to get across before she started crossing.
Given the stupid A-pillars on cars today the driver might not have seen her until too late.Running out in front of a car without either checking first or simply expecting it to stop is a ridiculous thing to do - especially in London and even more so on that crossing.
Legally I wouldn't be surprised if the driver had the book thrown at him - he could see that the pedestrian was approaching the crossing and should have stopped rather than try to get across before she started crossing.
While ped may of had right of way that doesn't excuse them due diligence, although the car driver will be wholly responsible for PC.
heebeegeetee said:
None of the above is law, it is advice. Pedestrians are not required to sign up to any agreement that they will follow any advice.
That simply means that the pedestrians behaviour wasn't illegal, it doesn't mean it wasn't reckless and contribute to the accident. By your logic everything in the highway code saying 'should' or 'should not' is utterly meaningless.The argument that the pedestrian should not have behaved the way she did but the accident was 100% the car drivers fault makes no sense at all.
Jezzerh said:
As a car driver you have to take into account the fact that peds can act like mongs sometimes and adjust your driving accordingly.
There's no excuse for driving so fast towards a zebra crossing.
How was the drivers speed relevant though? It isn't that the driver couldn't stop in time because they were going too fast, it was that they made no attempt to stop because they didn't see the pedestrian. Going slower could just have meant the pedestrian went under the wheels instead of bouncing off the side of the car.There's no excuse for driving so fast towards a zebra crossing.
I'm assuming the muppet in the pink shirt doesn't have a mobile phone, and is the only reason he's 'blindly' shouting, arms flailing, to call an ambulance. "Is someone calling an ambulance? SOMEBODY CALL AN AMBULANCE! WHO'S CALLING!?" He sounds American but he'd be pretty stupid to come over here, visiting or staying, and not know our emergency number.
Interesting what the reaction of the family who crossed before her does, the parents (presumably) shield the kids eyes and usher them off before returning. I don't have kids so not sure what i'd do, but it was possibly a good (maybe a bit gruesome) lesson for them too....
Hope the girl recovers, i'd say it was 50/50 on blame, she shouldn't have run, he never made any attempt to brake or swerve though either.
Hope the girl recovers, i'd say it was 50/50 on blame, she shouldn't have run, he never made any attempt to brake or swerve though either.
Driller said:
In your opinion.
She wasn't "waiting to cross", she ran across into the side of the car once he had passed the crossing. Look at the screenshots above.
My screenshot clearly shows a pedestrian on the crossing, and a car driver approaching the crossing. Driver MUST stop. If he doesn't stop - law is broken.She wasn't "waiting to cross", she ran across into the side of the car once he had passed the crossing. Look at the screenshots above.
simoid said:
Driller said:
In your opinion.
She wasn't "waiting to cross", she ran across into the side of the car once he had passed the crossing. Look at the screenshots above.
My screenshot clearly shows a pedestrian on the crossing, and a car driver approaching the crossing. Driver MUST stop. If he doesn't stop - law is broken.She wasn't "waiting to cross", she ran across into the side of the car once he had passed the crossing. Look at the screenshots above.
simoid said:
Driller said:
In your opinion.
She wasn't "waiting to cross", she ran across into the side of the car once he had passed the crossing. Look at the screenshots above.
My screenshot clearly shows a pedestrian on the crossing, and a car driver approaching the crossing. Driver MUST stop. If he doesn't stop - law is broken.She wasn't "waiting to cross", she ran across into the side of the car once he had passed the crossing. Look at the screenshots above.
simoid said:
My screenshot clearly shows a pedestrian on the crossing, and a car driver approaching the crossing. Driver MUST stop. If he doesn't stop - law is broken.
Your screenshot doesn't prove anything. The video clearly shows the girl sprinting across the road straight into the car. Why the driver didn't slam on the brakes straight away god only knows.Just goes to show, you can be in the right legally and still end up lying in the road in pain.
She should have paused, checked both ways then walked across the crossing when she was sure it was safe. The driver should have been more careful approaching the crossing and should definitely hit the brakes hard in situations like that, not accelerate away in a straight line.
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