Abbey Road webcam - madness
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king road taking pictures of the idiots. I would be going nuts, time the Police took a stance against this and stopped the madness.heebeegeetee said:
All the driver has to do is make sure the crossing is clear before proceeding. I would never cross a crossing without knowing it is clear to do so, because if I did i may hurt someone one day and possibly end up in court.
You check and make sure it's clear, and as you're passing, Usain Bolt comes running into the side of your car.
That actually made me laugh out loud.jodypress said:
Agree, the golf didn't hit the ped on the zebra crossing but the ped run diagonally across and away from the Zebra crossing. Not much the golf could've done.
She started running across, and then ran away (off the crossing towards the camera) as it became clear she was about to be wiped out by a car that probably wasn't going to stop in time.The car driver had little or no chance though - probably didn't see her until she was halfway over.
The Ped got a reality check for her stupidity and hopefully the car driver wasn't fined or anything.
Finlandia said:
You check and make sure it's clear, and as you're passing, Usain Bolt comes running into the side of your car.
Well it wasn't clear then was it? In this case the pedestrian was on the crossing before the car was, so it simply doesn't matter if the ped was running, walking or doing cartwheels, the car *has* to stop - the driver had no choice in the matter.It seems PH has become overpopulated with SMIDSYs.
And Usain Bolt? I reckon more like a chubby, overweight and unfit teenager from somewhere nearby.
heebeegeetee said:
rambo19 said:
FFS!
It's the peds fault.
Highway code states;
3. Crossings (18 to 30)
18
At all crossings. When using any type of crossing you should
always check that the traffic has stopped before you start to cross or push a pram onto a crossing
always cross between the studs or over the zebra markings. Do not cross at the side of the crossing or on the zig-zag lines, as it can be dangerous.
You MUST NOT loiter on any type of crossing.
Laws ZPPPCRGD reg 19 & RTRA sect 25(5)
19
Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stopped.
None of the above is law, it is advice. It's the peds fault.
Highway code states;
3. Crossings (18 to 30)
18
At all crossings. When using any type of crossing you should
always check that the traffic has stopped before you start to cross or push a pram onto a crossing
always cross between the studs or over the zebra markings. Do not cross at the side of the crossing or on the zig-zag lines, as it can be dangerous.
You MUST NOT loiter on any type of crossing.
Laws ZPPPCRGD reg 19 & RTRA sect 25(5)
19
Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stopped.
The first is from The Zebra, Pelican and Puffin Pedestrian Crossings Regulations and General Directions 1997
Pedestrians not to delay on crossings
19. No pedestrian shall remain on the carriageway within the limits of a crossing longer than is necessary for that pedestrian to pass over the crossing with reasonable despatch.
The second is from Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984
25 Pedestrian crossing regulations.
(5)A person who contravenes any regulations made under this section shall be guilty of an offence.
heebeegeetee said:
Well it wasn't clear then was it? In this case the pedestrian was on the crossing before the car was, so it simply doesn't matter if the ped was running, walking or doing cartwheels, the car *has* to stop - the driver had no choice in the matter.
It seems PH has become overpopulated with SMIDSYs.
And Usain Bolt? I reckon more like a chubby, overweight and unfit teenager from somewhere nearby.
Yes the car should have stopped, but the ped should also have checked if it was safe to cross, and more importantly not run out in the road and straight into a car. It seems PH has become overpopulated with SMIDSYs.
And Usain Bolt? I reckon more like a chubby, overweight and unfit teenager from somewhere nearby.
I would also say that the ped was going at a pace that many overweight middle aged company directors on PH could not match
Finlandia said:
Yes the car should have stopped, but the ped should also have checked if it was safe to cross, and more importantly not run out in the road and straight into a car.
Of course, but peds are allowed to be young, or stupid, or blind, or incapacitated in some way including mentally, etc. Children are allowed to be pedestrians (and the ped in this case appears to be under 18 imo).As a driver you have to allow for all of this and drive accordingly. certainly in this case, nothing happens that would challenge any reasonably competent driver.
The driver is likely to be an adult, and by applying for a licence would have agreed to obey the rules and regs of the land. A pedestrian doesn't do this.
The pedestrian may or may not be lawfully responsible for her actions (genuine question - does the rta apply to all ages?) but the driver is certainly responsible for his, and he failed to stop as he was regulated too, and that is his fault entirely.
From his vision, there were peds on both sides of the zebra crossing, but he made no allowance for that at all.
shakotan said:
Actually, you are wrong, any HC entry that has a footnote is indeed Law, as the footnote refers to the specific Legislation.
Thats how I understand it, but there is no footnote under rule 19. One question I can't find an answer to (in my 5 mins of looking), does the rta apply to all ages?
heebeegeetee said:
Finlandia said:
Yes the car should have stopped, but the ped should also have checked if it was safe to cross, and more importantly not run out in the road and straight into a car.
Of course, but peds are allowed to be young, or stupid, or blind, or incapacitated in some way including mentally, etc. Children are allowed to be pedestrians (and the ped in this case appears to be under 18 imo).As a driver you have to allow for all of this and drive accordingly. certainly in this case, nothing happens that would challenge any reasonably competent driver.
The driver is likely to be an adult, and by applying for a licence would have agreed to obey the rules and regs of the land. A pedestrian doesn't do this.
The pedestrian may or may not be lawfully responsible for her actions (genuine question - does the rta apply to all ages?) but the driver is certainly responsible for his, and he failed to stop as he was regulated too, and that is his fault entirely.
From his vision, there were peds on both sides of the zebra crossing, but he made no allowance for that at all.
Pedestrians may be kids or simpletons, but they still have obligations, and the one in this video learned the hard way.
croyde said:
Fek! He is annoying.
Actually, looking at it with loads of tourists lurking on the pavement and with the evening rush hour looming, I'm not surprised the cars are loath to stop.
What amazes me more is people that stand in the middle of the road taking photos when cars are passing on both sides.Actually, looking at it with loads of tourists lurking on the pavement and with the evening rush hour looming, I'm not surprised the cars are loath to stop.
Edited by croyde on Monday 10th November 15:33
Is there an offense being committed there? I trust it would be under the road traffic act because they're not driving?
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