Who will be the first famous person to die in 2012 ?
Discussion
onyx39 said:
Adenauer said:
onyx39 said:
scorcher said:
Pat Butcher
I fear you may have inside info...http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/so...
P-Jay said:
Thatcher, hopefully they'll give her the full 21 gun salute.
Straight into the coffin, well, you want to be sure.
I'm no fan of Blair, but I'm fairly certain that I won't be wishing death upon him when he is a frail 86 year old, nor shall I relish the idea of mutilating his corpse.Straight into the coffin, well, you want to be sure.
onyx39 said:
P-Jay said:
Thatcher, hopefully they'll give her the full 21 gun salute.
Straight into the coffin, well, you want to be sure.
How long WERE you a coal miner for?Straight into the coffin, well, you want to be sure.
But I suppose all this huge unemployment in dead towns in South Wales and the North, reliance on foreign energy whilst the £ is devalued and soaring consumer energy prices are a small price to pay for making Britain more efficient.
Can't see Queenie or Phil the Greek going yet, I reckon Liz will make the ton and Phil come to think of it. Unless Charlie boy gets in there with a cusion first....
My money would be on Maggie, she's will into borrowed time i reckon
Or hopefully Winky, either from a massive session on the Teachers or Sarah going postal.
My money would be on Maggie, she's will into borrowed time i reckon
Or hopefully Winky, either from a massive session on the Teachers or Sarah going postal.
P-Jay said:
onyx39 said:
P-Jay said:
Thatcher, hopefully they'll give her the full 21 gun salute.
Straight into the coffin, well, you want to be sure.
How long WERE you a coal miner for?Straight into the coffin, well, you want to be sure.
But I suppose all this huge unemployment in dead towns in South Wales and the North, reliance on foreign energy whilst the £ is devalued and soaring consumer energy prices are a small price to pay for making Britain more efficient.
onyx39 said:
Don't want to get into a huge debate, but didn't we close the pits because it was more expensive to mine our own coal than import from overseas?
Yes, in part. There was an economic argument that it was cheaper to import South American coal than to use domestic production, given the lower cost of labour, strength of the pound at the time and even weaker labour laws for South American miners.There was a parallel political argument that it allowed Thatcher to break Union block power, which in turn shifted power to a more productive UK in the long run but with some massive short term pain in terms of unemployment.
But both are contentious discussion points and intertwined. Having grown up in a mining area, I've always been cautious in opening this can of worms....
...but my personal view is that it was the right thing to do for the country in the long run (to shift us from a manufacturing to a services driven economy) but done in the wrong way, and probably to too greater extreme, and the egos involved on both sides didn't allow a compromise strategy.
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