Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 2]
Discussion
SpeckledJim said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
the real question is "what's the point?"
wouldn't it be quicker, easier, safer and less obviously criminal to just pull off the road somewhere and load the minis onboard while the bus was stopped?
All except quicker, then yes.wouldn't it be quicker, easier, safer and less obviously criminal to just pull off the road somewhere and load the minis onboard while the bus was stopped?
Assuming the bus is at vmax, and is on the critical path, then the way they did it was fastest.
even then:
you've got the distance during which the minis are loading, where they are only travelling at bus speed, must be a mile or two, dragging the ramps
the minis could keep going at full mini speed to the rendevous point somewhere near the final loaded point of the bus
quickly fire into the bus, then the bus accelerates
so they are driving a mile further say, at 90 mph, then accelerating up to 60 (bus speed?)
I'm sure someone could work it out
SpeckledJim said:
Ah, but the lorry is dragging the ramp along the ground. Once you're on the ramp, it is heavier, and thus more draggy. Slowing the truck.
It doesn't matter, it will still absorb momentum from the car.Even if that is then transferred into digging bloody great ramp holes along the road.
The point is not that the truck ends up going faster - it is simply that any momentum lost will mean you won't get up the ramp freewheeling.
Hugo a Gogo said:
SpeckledJim said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
the real question is "what's the point?"
wouldn't it be quicker, easier, safer and less obviously criminal to just pull off the road somewhere and load the minis onboard while the bus was stopped?
All except quicker, then yes.wouldn't it be quicker, easier, safer and less obviously criminal to just pull off the road somewhere and load the minis onboard while the bus was stopped?
Assuming the bus is at vmax, and is on the critical path, then the way they did it was fastest.
even then:
you've got the distance during which the minis are loading, where they are only travelling at bus speed, must be a mile or two, dragging the ramps
the minis could keep going at full mini speed to the rendevous point somewhere near the final loaded point of the bus
quickly fire into the bus, then the bus accelerates
so they are driving a mile further say, at 90 mph, then accelerating up to 60 (bus speed?)
I'm sure someone could work it out
If the bus is the constraint on the system, and if it is travelling faster before and after the loading of the minis, but has to slow to let them on, then you're right, stopping altogether MAY be the faster way.
But we'd have to make LOADS of assumptions in order to model that and decide either way.
If however the bus is travelling as fast as it can at all points in the journey, then stopping won't be the best way, no matter how quickly the minis can load at a standstill, nor however long it takes whilst rolling.
Hugo a Gogo said:
that's a big assumption, the bus didn't look like it was going flat out during loading
even then:
you've got the distance during which the minis are loading, where they are only travelling at bus speed, must be a mile or two, dragging the ramps
the minis could keep going at full mini speed to the rendevous point somewhere near the final loaded point of the bus
quickly fire into the bus, then the bus accelerates
so they are driving a mile further say, at 90 mph, then accelerating up to 60 (bus speed?)
I'm sure someone could work it out
They could probably have driven further in the minis and had the bus RV with them at a more distant location BUT you would be upping their "getting busted driving three distinctive cars" time.even then:
you've got the distance during which the minis are loading, where they are only travelling at bus speed, must be a mile or two, dragging the ramps
the minis could keep going at full mini speed to the rendevous point somewhere near the final loaded point of the bus
quickly fire into the bus, then the bus accelerates
so they are driving a mile further say, at 90 mph, then accelerating up to 60 (bus speed?)
I'm sure someone could work it out
Once they are in the bus - they are home free because the Polizia are looking for three minis not a bus.
SpeckledJim said:
If however the bus is travelling as fast as it can at all points in the journey, then stopping won't be the best way, no matter how quickly the minis can load at a standstill, nor however long it takes whilst rolling.
No, because the bus could just start further away.walm said:
SpeckledJim said:
If however the bus is travelling as fast as it can at all points in the journey, then stopping won't be the best way, no matter how quickly the minis can load at a standstill, nor however long it takes whilst rolling.
No, because the bus could just start further away.SpeckledJim said:
walm said:
SpeckledJim said:
If however the bus is travelling as fast as it can at all points in the journey, then stopping won't be the best way, no matter how quickly the minis can load at a standstill, nor however long it takes whilst rolling.
No, because the bus could just start further away.But your point still stands I guess in that it's still quicker to do a rolling load, no matter where you meet the bus....
Frankly, if you wanted to be quick about it, then stay in the minis the whole way back to Blighty.. Although then my risk of getting caught issue raises its head.
walm said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
that's a big assumption, the bus didn't look like it was going flat out during loading
even then:
you've got the distance during which the minis are loading, where they are only travelling at bus speed, must be a mile or two, dragging the ramps
the minis could keep going at full mini speed to the rendevous point somewhere near the final loaded point of the bus
quickly fire into the bus, then the bus accelerates
so they are driving a mile further say, at 90 mph, then accelerating up to 60 (bus speed?)
I'm sure someone could work it out
They could probably have driven further in the minis and had the bus RV with them at a more distant location BUT you would be upping their "getting busted driving three distinctive cars" time.even then:
you've got the distance during which the minis are loading, where they are only travelling at bus speed, must be a mile or two, dragging the ramps
the minis could keep going at full mini speed to the rendevous point somewhere near the final loaded point of the bus
quickly fire into the bus, then the bus accelerates
so they are driving a mile further say, at 90 mph, then accelerating up to 60 (bus speed?)
I'm sure someone could work it out
Once they are in the bus - they are home free because the Polizia are looking for three minis not a bus.
besides, less time for anyone to see the bus being loaded with those 3 distinctive cars
I haven't always wanted to know this, but I want to know it now- why is it that in those Tabloola links at the bottom of thread pages there are nearly always at least three Porsche-related stories?
I don't think it's because I am more inclined to click on Porsche stuff, quite the reverse in fact.
I don't think it's because I am more inclined to click on Porsche stuff, quite the reverse in fact.
singlecoil said:
I haven't always wanted to know this, but I want to know it now- why is it that in those Tabloola links at the bottom of thread pages there are nearly always at least three Porsche-related stories?
I don't think it's because I am more inclined to click on Porsche stuff, quite the reverse in fact.
Looking at it now for me there's just one. I don't know if it tracks the stories you look at or if PH has just done a lot of Porsche stories and it s random.I don't think it's because I am more inclined to click on Porsche stuff, quite the reverse in fact.
And now I've returned to the topic there's 3, but one is the RuF Cayman.
Ayahuasca said:
What makes the difference between a melody and a random sequence of musical notes?
It's really about the "rules" for making things sound good to your ear.As singlecoil points out Jazz has sort of re-written the "rules".
However, traditionally a melody will be writted in a given "key".
"C major" would be the first key you learn when studying music since it is easy and refers to just the white keys on a keyboard (no flats or sharps - the black keys).
So a melody written in C major will only use the white notes - absolutely NOT random.
The accompaniment to the melody will also be in the same key so the notes don't "clash" (not the official term).
If you plan a note out of "key" it will just sound wrong.
That's not to say you can't change key in the middle of a piece but when you do - the accompaniment changes too.
Again - not random.
ambuletz said:
Are there any consequences when people swear on live TV during the day? Watching sunday brunch and a guy just said s
t.
Yes. OfCom monitor all broadcast media. Depending upon the severity, they can issue a warning, a fine or in exceptional circumstances, remove a show altogether. t.walm said:
Ayahuasca said:
What makes the difference between a melody and a random sequence of musical notes?
It's really about the "rules" for making things sound good to your ear.As singlecoil points out Jazz has sort of re-written the "rules".
However, traditionally a melody will be writted in a given "key".
"C major" would be the first key you learn when studying music since it is easy and refers to just the white keys on a keyboard (no flats or sharps - the black keys).
So a melody written in C major will only use the white notes - absolutely NOT random.
The accompaniment to the melody will also be in the same key so the notes don't "clash" (not the official term).
If you plan a note out of "key" it will just sound wrong.
That's not to say you can't change key in the middle of a piece but when you do - the accompaniment changes too.
Again - not random.
If there's a pattern, it should be possible for it to be computerised and artificially created.
So, the next part is do we really understand a pattern in music, or is it just just conditioning, where we recognise styles and elements we have been exposed to.
Almost everything we know is 4/4, the famous exception is a Waltz in 3/4.
It might be hard to tell now, with all the cultural "contamination" whether 4/4 would have appeared all over the world naturally, or if the prevalence on 4/4 was spread be contact.
TheEnd said:
walm said:
Ayahuasca said:
What makes the difference between a melody and a random sequence of musical notes?
It's really about the "rules" for making things sound good to your ear.As singlecoil points out Jazz has sort of re-written the "rules".
However, traditionally a melody will be writted in a given "key".
"C major" would be the first key you learn when studying music since it is easy and refers to just the white keys on a keyboard (no flats or sharps - the black keys).
So a melody written in C major will only use the white notes - absolutely NOT random.
The accompaniment to the melody will also be in the same key so the notes don't "clash" (not the official term).
If you plan a note out of "key" it will just sound wrong.
That's not to say you can't change key in the middle of a piece but when you do - the accompaniment changes too.
Again - not random.
If there's a pattern, it should be possible for it to be computerised and artificially created.
So, the next part is do we really understand a pattern in music, or is it just just conditioning, where we recognise styles and elements we have been exposed to.
Almost everything we know is 4/4, the famous exception is a Waltz in 3/4.
It might be hard to tell now, with all the cultural "contamination" whether 4/4 would have appeared all over the world naturally, or if the prevalence on 4/4 was spread be contact.
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