3rd of people steal from self-service check-outs

3rd of people steal from self-service check-outs

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blueg33

35,860 posts

224 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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I hate using the "robots" they always need a person to come along and deal with something.

Stealing is wrong and so are robots

Tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

154 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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PumpkinSteve said:
Same. It never crossed my mind, I thought the doorways had scanners anyway?
They do, but not for barcodes it's for tagged items like champers/clothes/xboxes etc.

erdnase

1,963 posts

201 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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blueg33 said:
I hate using the "robots" they always need a person to come along and deal with something.

Stealing is wrong and so are robots
What about stealing robots? Or a robot stealing some garlic stuffed olives?

blueg33

35,860 posts

224 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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erdnase said:
blueg33 said:
I hate using the "robots" they always need a person to come along and deal with something.

Stealing is wrong and so are robots
What about stealing robots? Or a robot stealing some garlic stuffed olives?
The latter won't happen, robots hate garlic

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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JonnyFive said:
Pardon?

If you read the thread you'd see that I use them every day. I couldn't believe they'd have weighed every single item for it, rather than just the scales recognising that something else has been added.
They don't need to weigh each item. The info will be provided to them by the suplliers.

They even cause problems if the item you put down is lighter by a few grams. I used one all was fine but had problems when trying to buy a newspaper in with the shooping. It was a satturday newspaper and teh tv supplement had fallen out.

Edited by Pesty on Thursday 26th April 18:42

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Pesty said:
probelms


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(sorry!)

Mr Obertshaw

2,174 posts

230 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Jasandjules said:
I guess that shows just how horrible this country has become then.

I am glad I live in an area where people sell eggs and fruit and such out by the roadside and you just take what you want and leave the cash in the box.
I live in an area like that, I thought those boxes were just to help yourself... wink


Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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otolith said:
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(sorry!)
laugh

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Jasandjules said:
I guess that shows just how horrible this country has become then.

I am glad I live in an area where people sell eggs and fruit and such out by the roadside and you just take what you want and leave the cash in the box.
and you know for a fact nobody steals from those? Do you bks!

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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JonnyFive said:
Riknos said:
JonnyFive said:
Surely you could just scan one thing and put two things on the scale? Thats the way I've always thought people could do it.. The machine would only register one weight added to the total. I really can't believe they've weighed every item and know if what you've put in there isn't right..
HOW have you not used one of these already? You're young (maybe too young?) you're not a pensioner!

Of course they know the weights of every item; otherwise people would scan one item and put all 24 down on the scale and pay £1 for £80 worth of shopping... Think about it rolleyes
Pardon?

If you read the thread you'd see that I use them every day. I couldn't believe they'd have weighed every single item for it, rather than just the scales recognising that something else has been added.
Everything has a unique bar code. Why shouldn't everything have a unique recorded weight?

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Fittster said:
I'm shocked just how many people thieve given the chance. Even if the costs of stealing are less than the costs of employing checkout people I hope supermarkets remove these machines as it seems they help to normalise theft in the minds of rather a lot of the population.
I'm shocked at how many people have replied on this thread without commenting on this particular section of the OP!

Basically, "because some people steal, everyone else should be inconvenienced"???

It's bad enough having to go in to a supermarket in the first place (and, Mr Ocado, just what the hell is wrong with ordering a single pack of fresh rosemary in the next half hour anyway?) without having to actually interact with people while you're there!

ronaldo342

126 posts

186 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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I was in the local morrisons standing in the queue for the self serve this smartly dressed old dear in the queue beside me just puts her stuff in a bag and walks out,hilarious, they must of thought I was nuts couldnt stop laughing!

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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I guess the headline 70% of people don't steal from self service checkouts doesn't have the same sensationalist bullst media hype value.

lazystudent

1,789 posts

161 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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ronaldo342 said:
I was in the local morrisons standing in the queue for the self serve this smartly dressed old dear in the queue beside me just puts her stuff in a bag and walks out,hilarious, they must of thought I was nuts couldnt stop laughing!
Yeah, I find theft hilarious as well!!!!!!!

confused

Why didn't you stop her?

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

226 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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In Sainsbury's, the machine asks you if you've used any of your own bags; if you have, you get a Nectar point for each one.

Now, I can't be the only person wondering what happens if I say "Why yes, I have used my own bags. Twenty thousand or so."

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,910 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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CommanderJameson said:
In Sainsbury's, the machine asks you if you've used any of your own bags; if you have, you get a Nectar point for each one.

Now, I can't be the only person wondering what happens if I say "Why yes, I have used my own bags. Twenty thousand or so."
I tested this theory recently - it limits you to 9 biggrin

But anyway - as far the the OP is concerned - IMHO, good!

I'd never steal or be dishonest personally - never have, never will. But not because I'm whiter than white or Mr. Honest - just because I don't want a nicking / criminal record over something as petty as getting away with a few pounds' worth of groceries.

If I WAS gonna do something illegal - then to justify the risk, it would have to be big with the possibility of a huge reward in the £00000's! But as I don't have the bottle to do that either, I guess that means I'll carry on being a meek, honest man biggrin

But anyway - with regard to 'self checkouts' my feelings are that it's another way for huge, bloated, profit-rich corporations to make further profits.

Now look, I'm not some extreme leftie socialist - I see the need and the positivity for UK PLC to do well, and make money.

But lately it's all swung way back in the favour of big business and the rich to carry on sucking every pound possible out of us, whilst meanwhile the average guy who has to shop for food to stay alive ends up paying more and more for his staples whilst having the piss taken out of him as far as these Supermarkets can dare.

I read an article recently, that despite Tesco's, for instance, being heralded as some kind of amazing financial success story - when you look at the facts, it's actually the likes of you and I that have unwittingly contributed to the Companies' and shareholders' burgeoning wealth.

How?

Well, the report analysed in detail the income and money streams of most of the staff. And it seems most of the staff cannot survive on the pitiful minimum wage paid by these huge corporations (possible because of high food prices - natch!) and so in addition to receiving their paltry income from stacking shelves and manning checkouts, most of them also claim one or more kind of benefit as well - hence, that basically means that UK taxpayers are supplementing the profits of large supermarkets and retail outlets!

So the Directors and Shareholders are grinning and rejoicing at each year-on-year increase in profits - but the reality is that you and I are paying towards those profits in our taxes.

Therefore - in response to the OP - although I don't condone theft per se - I also at the same time can appreciate the 're-distribution' of wealth from people nicking what they can!

Yes, I know theft results in higher prices for the rest of us - but I also think that with regard to Capitalism and the way in which most of us have been fked over by the recession, there needs to be a bit of a watershed for huge corporations bleeding us dry and taking the piss by upping costs of basic necessities for survival.

By the same token - again, I'm no Socialist - but I think it's high time public transport and utility companies should be re-nationalised.

Agree or not?


GTIAlex

1,935 posts

166 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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blindswelledrat said:
GTIAlex said:
In a certain orange supermarket, if you have scan two items that are linked by an offer..for instance

2 bottles of coke for £2

Normal prices being, for instance, £3.

If you use the self service, scan the two items, the total will come to £3, even after you have press the "Pay for Items" button.

You have to press back and go back to the scan screen for it to register and change the price to £2.
Wonder how many people walk away not realising.

Try it out next time your there.

Another example is the meal deal for £3.

Sandwich
Drink
Crisps for £3.

Scan the three items on the self service checkouts, and the total will simply be the original price of the individual items added together.

To trigger the meal deal offer of £3, you have to press the pay for items, and then press back to where you scan the items. Wonder how many people dont notice...

Hope that makes sense.
Fascinating. Simply fascinating.
You haven't got any more sandwich buying anecdotes to keep me rooted to my seat have you?
Haha Don't worry I was mid assignment writing at the time so it seemed like a pleasant distraction.

Il check next time im buy a sandwich and PM you if you like

erdnase

1,963 posts

201 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
But anyway - with regard to 'self checkouts' my feelings are that it's another way for huge, bloated, profit-rich corporations to make further profits.

...

Agree or not?
I think that's a bit dramatic (enjoyed your post otherwise, though! smile)

The supermarkets might not need to employ just as many cashiers if they increase the amounts of self scan checkouts - but on the other hand, they're creating employment for the designers, maintainance engineers and installers of these self-scans. Society is changing, and with it, the definition of what a job is.

The self scans make life simpler for just about everyone, in the same way self-service petrol pumps do now too. No-one misses the guy that would pump petrol into your car, unless your name is Monty Burns.

I reckon with any new technology, people will instinctively resist it and then wonder how they could have lived without it. And so the cycle continues smile

PS, I know my example of the petrol pump sucks, but it's the best I could come up with!

projectgt

318 posts

160 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Jasandjules said:
I guess that shows just how horrible this country has become then.

I am glad I live in an area where people sell eggs and fruit and such out by the roadside and you just take what you want and leave the cash in the box.
Do you live in the 1960's? It sounds great wherever it is that you live.

LiamM45

1,035 posts

180 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Best one I have seen, young woman scans her items through, bags them up, goes to pay with her card, taps in her pin then pulls the card straight out before the transaction was complete, and walks off. She knew exactly what she was doing, as she made a bloody sharp exit.

Security only clicked on by the time she was out of the door. They said it was fairly common.

Perfect crime really - if she's pulled up by anyone, it's a case 'oh sorry I was in a rush and didn't see the screen, etc etc.'