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SeanyD said:
Genuinely interesting thread, any stories of 20+ a day for 20+ years, moved to these with success or otherwise?
What are the running costs compared to the £7+ a day normal cigs, does it genuinely replace the 'lung full of dirty stuff' sensation?
Im a 20 for 20er and have only tried the disposable ones,I just have no interest in charging up and different flavours etc.I reckon at the very least they can help you cut down because you still get the hit throat wise and you still have something that looks like a fag in your hands even if it does look strange having a blue light at the end,definately worth trying for 5.99 for equivalent of 30 fags.What are the running costs compared to the £7+ a day normal cigs, does it genuinely replace the 'lung full of dirty stuff' sensation?
My advice would be to go for a 510 model if you smoke 20+ a day. The cig look a like ones aren't going to give you what you need. I found the cig look a like ones compare no where near the 510 models.
Then progress onto something stronger still, like the Screwdriver which is brilliant and gives copious amounts of vapour.
Then progress onto something stronger still, like the Screwdriver which is brilliant and gives copious amounts of vapour.
SeanyD said:
Genuinely interesting thread, any stories of 20+ a day for 20+ years, moved to these with success or otherwise?
What are the running costs compared to the £7+ a day normal cigs, does it genuinely replace the 'lung full of dirty stuff' sensation?
Mate is a thirty a day man, down to 5 real cigs a day and a cartridge for his ecig lasts him 2 days. He's had a cough for 3 years which has nearly cleared up in 3 weeks.What are the running costs compared to the £7+ a day normal cigs, does it genuinely replace the 'lung full of dirty stuff' sensation?
Saving him a fortune.
SeanyD said:
Genuinely interesting thread, any stories of 20+ a day for 20+ years, moved to these with success or otherwise?
What are the running costs compared to the £7+ a day normal cigs, does it genuinely replace the 'lung full of dirty stuff' sensation?
I was a 20 a day'er. Started at 12, had a break at 27. Started again at 32, and now 12 year on at 44, I've switched to the e-cigs.What are the running costs compared to the £7+ a day normal cigs, does it genuinely replace the 'lung full of dirty stuff' sensation?
I reckon the cost is roughly £1 a day for juice. Add on initial cost of kit, maybe £60 for a decent setup, and it's cheap, very cheap by comparison to the £7 a day habit.
You get the throat 'hit' that you experience with normal cigs, although they will obviously taste and smell different because you're not burning anything and inhaling smoke , tar or carbon monoxide. Think of it changing to a new brand of cigarette.
Thing is, within just a couple of days, you won't be hawking up glutinous lumps of goo from your throat/lungs every morning. That s
t all clears up pretty much as soon as you stop the real cigs.GTIR said:
So once you quit the E-Cigs then what?
Back to fags?
Personally I don't see the point in using e-cigs if you're trying to give up. It's one step up from people who kid themselves and smoke menthol fags.
Either stop or don't. Period.
Why would you want to quit e-cigs? I've no intention of quitting them. It's cheap, it gives a nicotene dose, but without all the 'bad' bits of smoking tobacco.Back to fags?
Personally I don't see the point in using e-cigs if you're trying to give up. It's one step up from people who kid themselves and smoke menthol fags.
Either stop or don't. Period.
I certainly don't see them as route to quitting, but as an alternative.
SeanyD said:
Genuinely interesting thread, any stories of 20+ a day for 20+ years, moved to these with success or otherwise?
Me. I smoked for thirty years. A minimum of 20 a day, usually more. Before the smoking ban, on a night out I used to smoke a packet of twenty in the evening alone, making a total of 40 for the day. I half-heartedly tried to give up loads of times. I wanted to stop but I was/am addicted. After a day or so of 'giving up' I always decided that actually I liked smoking and started again. Apparently I have absolutely zero will power.
Over the years I've tried almost every giving-up-smoking aid. None of them worked for me.
Around 2½ years ago I bought an electric cigarette but it was one of those feeble ones that look like a cigarette but they don't have enough battery power to vaporise the fluid adequately. I soon went back to real cigarettes.
Last summer I bought a 'Screwdriver' elec cig. I'd read some good things about them and they seemed to have a decent battery. I took it with me on holiday and stopped smoking. It was great. Then it broke and I was back smoking real cigs again.
This February I decided to really give stopping smoking a determined effort. I bought an eGo-C with the tank system. (The tank is just a larger fluid reservoir so you don't have to keep messing about topping the fluid up) from Totally Wicked. It seemed to work well, at least as well as the Screwdriver e-cig I had previously. So I bought a spare one of everything, so that I couldn't have the excuse to start smoking again if something broke.
... and that's been it for me. I haven't smoked since. It's a miracle really, after 30 years of cigarettes.
The running cost of an e-cig should be peanuts really. But like a lot of men, when I get into something I will quite happily waste far more money than I probably should on my latest hobby. Because of this I've spent a bit on experimenting with different e-liquids. In the last month alone I've thrown away £50 worth of liquid that I bought and didn't like. But, hey, I used to spend more than that every week on cigarettes - and they were killing me!
Piersman2 said:
GTIR said:
So once you quit the E-Cigs then what?
Back to fags?
Personally I don't see the point in using e-cigs if you're trying to give up. It's one step up from people who kid themselves and smoke menthol fags.
Either stop or don't. Period.
Why would you want to quit e-cigs? I've no intention of quitting them. It's cheap, it gives a nicotene dose, but without all the 'bad' bits of smoking tobacco.Back to fags?
Personally I don't see the point in using e-cigs if you're trying to give up. It's one step up from people who kid themselves and smoke menthol fags.
Either stop or don't. Period.
I certainly don't see them as route to quitting, but as an alternative.
You have to admit that you do look like a bit of a twonk "smoking" them.
It's funny when people say "I can smoke them at my desk" yes, but you can also stick pencils up you nose but why would you!
I can't see kids trying them. Not cool.
Have they done any tests yet are they regulated and are they all still made in China?
Just wondering.
(I've used them in the past then realised I looked like a massive knob whilst puffing on one.)
Same can be said for just about any other type of nicotine replacement, yet they're very popular too, and proven to reduce dependancy and assist in kicking it.
Even if you were to stay on e-cigs indefinitely you're replacing one vice with another that is far less harmful.
Some people find it far harder to quit than others. My mate's tried everything and the only thing that's come close to working is Champix - even still he's struggling.
I went cold turkey and found it a piece of piss, but I started smoking again a couple of years down the line. Now, I'd rather have the odd toke on an e-cig if the mood takes me - as despite loving a Marlboro, I sound like I've spent my life working down a coal pit for the first hour of every day I'm awake. It's a nice middle ground IMO
Even if you were to stay on e-cigs indefinitely you're replacing one vice with another that is far less harmful.
Some people find it far harder to quit than others. My mate's tried everything and the only thing that's come close to working is Champix - even still he's struggling.
I went cold turkey and found it a piece of piss, but I started smoking again a couple of years down the line. Now, I'd rather have the odd toke on an e-cig if the mood takes me - as despite loving a Marlboro, I sound like I've spent my life working down a coal pit for the first hour of every day I'm awake. It's a nice middle ground IMO
J a k e said:
SeanyD said:
Genuinely interesting thread, any stories of 20+ a day for 20+ years, moved to these with success or otherwise?
Me. I smoked for thirty years. A minimum of 20 a day, usually more. Before the smoking ban, on a night out I used to smoke a packet of twenty in the evening alone, making a total of 40 for the day. I half-heartedly tried to give up loads of times. I wanted to stop but I was/am addicted. After a day or so of 'giving up' I always decided that actually I liked smoking and started again. Apparently I have absolutely zero will power.
Over the years I've tried almost every giving-up-smoking aid. None of them worked for me.
Around 2½ years ago I bought an electric cigarette but it was one of those feeble ones that look like a cigarette but they don't have enough battery power to vaporise the fluid adequately. I soon went back to real cigarettes.
Last summer I bought a 'Screwdriver' elec cig. I'd read some good things about them and they seemed to have a decent battery. I took it with me on holiday and stopped smoking. It was great. Then it broke and I was back smoking real cigs again.
This February I decided to really give stopping smoking a determined effort. I bought an eGo-C with the tank system. (The tank is just a larger fluid reservoir so you don't have to keep messing about topping the fluid up) from Totally Wicked. It seemed to work well, at least as well as the Screwdriver e-cig I had previously. So I bought a spare one of everything, so that I couldn't have the excuse to start smoking again if something broke.
... and that's been it for me. I haven't smoked since. It's a miracle really, after 30 years of cigarettes.
The running cost of an e-cig should be peanuts really. But like a lot of men, when I get into something I will quite happily waste far more money than I probably should on my latest hobby. Because of this I've spent a bit on experimenting with different e-liquids. In the last month alone I've thrown away £50 worth of liquid that I bought and didn't like. But, hey, I used to spend more than that every week on cigarettes - and they were killing me!
GTIR said:
Oh.
You have to admit that you do look like a bit of a twonk "smoking" them.
It's funny when people say "I can smoke them at my desk" yes, but you can also stick pencils up you nose but why would you!
I can't see kids trying them. Not cool.
Have they done any tests yet are they regulated and are they all still made in China?
Just wondering.
(I've used them in the past then realised I looked like a massive knob whilst puffing on one.)
To be fair, if you're that insecure in yourself that you care that much about what others think about you, then they're probably not for you.You have to admit that you do look like a bit of a twonk "smoking" them.
It's funny when people say "I can smoke them at my desk" yes, but you can also stick pencils up you nose but why would you!
I can't see kids trying them. Not cool.
Have they done any tests yet are they regulated and are they all still made in China?
Just wondering.
(I've used them in the past then realised I looked like a massive knob whilst puffing on one.)
Me, I quite like being myself, even if that maybe makes me look a bit daft sometimes. But I'm confident enough in the benefits over real cigarettes not to care about others too much.
I quite like my 'sonic screwdriver' look.
SeanyD said:
Both facinating and interesting. Without having the time to read all the recommendations on this thread, what would I need to buy to get up and running, I have zero will power to be able to pack in, but turning 40 and having a 3 year old daughter, is telling me I'm probably pushing my luck a bit.
And obviously zero willpower enough to bother reading the thread. It's only a few pages long. Maybe just scan through and look at the pictures if the reading bit is a bit tiresome, they'll tell you what's recommended. I know two people that have moved onto these E-cigs.
My dad, who was a 40-a-day smoker for at least 30 years, started using one when he went into hospital for a back operation. He was stuck in hospital for 6 weeks and was unable to move about unaided, so bought an E-cig for his stay.
This was 4 years ago and he hasn't touched a cigarette since...
He only uses his E-cig once or twice a day (light cartridges) and that's mainly when driving. I never thought he'd stop smoking...
Another was my close friend who has smoked for a good 15 years. He bought an E-cig about 4 months ago, used it for 3 months and has now stopped using that as well. Another person I never imagined to quit smoking.
My dad, who was a 40-a-day smoker for at least 30 years, started using one when he went into hospital for a back operation. He was stuck in hospital for 6 weeks and was unable to move about unaided, so bought an E-cig for his stay.
This was 4 years ago and he hasn't touched a cigarette since...
He only uses his E-cig once or twice a day (light cartridges) and that's mainly when driving. I never thought he'd stop smoking...
Another was my close friend who has smoked for a good 15 years. He bought an E-cig about 4 months ago, used it for 3 months and has now stopped using that as well. Another person I never imagined to quit smoking.
anonymous said:
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Serioulsy, if you're wanting to try it properly then buy something like the pictures earlier. I started on the cigarette style first, was pleasantly surprised that the technology worked, and upgraded to the EGO-T system within the week.I think a lot of people try the cheapies, don't think it's any good, and give up on the idea.
I also found the cheapies to be very variable in their delivery, frustratingly so. You'd get a good puff one minute and then nothing much the next. The bigger e-cigs are far more consistent in their delivery and can produce clouds of vapour to put a cigarette to shame. (All of which dissapates in a few seconds leaving nothing behind. Nothing. Could be happily smoked in a plane toilet for example)
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