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griffin dai

3,203 posts

150 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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oakdale said:
WTF are you on?
+1 silly

smileymikey

1,446 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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O.K back in front of the P.C. The point I was trying to make was that Cotty quoted an observation I made to the company directly yesterday. They criticised me for not noticing on the home page, that they had notified everyone that they were away for a few days. I replied that I had followed a link from this forum that took me directly to the websites juice page, and hadn't seen the home page.This was a communication between myself and the company.Other than myself and the company involved nobody has any knowledge of this conversation.

Cotty then responds "Possibly my fault for linking to the juice page rather than the front page"......I hadn't mentioned it online???

1. Cotty is psychic
2. Cotty isnt declaring contact with the company in his responses

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

238 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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smileymikey said:
O.K back in front of the P.C. The point I was trying to make was that Cotty quoted an observation I made to the company directly yesterday. They criticised me for not noticing on the home page, that they had notified everyone that they were away for a few days. I replied that I had followed a link from this forum that took me directly to the websites juice page, and hadn't seen the home page.This was a communication between myself and the company.Other than myself and the company involved nobody has any knowledge of this conversation.

Cotty then responds "Possibly my fault for linking to the juice page rather than the front page"......I hadn't mentioned it online???

1. Cotty is psychic
2. Cotty isnt declaring contact with the company in his responses
3. Cotty knew that you may not have seen the home page as he linked directly to the juice page

smileymikey

1,446 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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wolves_wanderer said:
smileymikey said:
O.K back in front of the P.C. The point I was trying to make was that Cotty quoted an observation I made to the company directly yesterday. They criticised me for not noticing on the home page, that they had notified everyone that they were away for a few days. I replied that I had followed a link from this forum that took me directly to the websites juice page, and hadn't seen the home page.This was a communication between myself and the company.Other than myself and the company involved nobody has any knowledge of this conversation.

Cotty then responds "Possibly my fault for linking to the juice page rather than the front page"......I hadn't mentioned it online???

1. Cotty is psychic
2. Cotty isnt declaring contact with the company in his responses
3. Cotty knew that you may not have seen the home page as he linked directly to the juice page
If it looks like an Elephant and sounds like an Elephant......its an Elephant!!

SWoll

18,449 posts

259 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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smileymikey said:
If it looks like an Elephant and sounds like an Elephant......its an Elephant!!
I think you need to up the nicotine level in your juice. Definitely something out of balance somewhere...

Cotty

39,586 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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smileymikey said:
If it looks like an Elephant and sounds like an Elephant......its an Elephant!!
I think you mean duck http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test

It was pretty obvious what happened, I linked to the juice page, you ordered and didn't hear anything. You didn't see the on holiday notice on the front page and kicked off at the company at their supposidly slow service. They probably responded along the lines of don't be a dick we were on holiday and there was a note on the front page telling everyone.

Not psycic just a good guess.

Jaldi

1,195 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Come on, Cotty, fess up. It's plain to everyone that Mike's amazing detective skills have caught you out fair and square. wink






Either that or he's a paranoid nutter...

SWoll

18,449 posts

259 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Jaldi said:
Come on, Cotty, fess up. It's plain to everyone that Mike's amazing deductive skills have caught you out fair and square. wink






Either that or he's a paranoid nutter...
Tough call, I'll get back to you on that one. smile

smileymikey

1,446 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Cotty said:
smileymikey said:
If it looks like an Elephant and sounds like an Elephant......its an Elephant!!
I think you mean duck http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test

It was pretty obvious what happened, I linked to the juice page, you ordered and didn't hear anything. You didn't see the on holiday notice on the front page and kicked off at the company at their supposidly slow service. They probably responded along the lines of don't be a dick we were on holiday and there was a note on the front page telling everyone.

Not psycic just a good guess.
No your not psycic you are in fact psychic. The elephant analogy is just like the Duck test....just for people that like to think bigger!smileElephant test[edit]


Similarly, the term elephant test refers to situations in which an idea or thing, "is hard to describe, but instantly recognizable when spotted".[8]

The term is often used in legal cases when there is an issue which may be open to interpretation,[9][10] such as in the case of Cadogan Estates Ltd v Morris, when Lord Justice Stuart-Smith referred to "the well known elephant test. It is difficult to describe, but you know it when you see it".[11]

See also: Elephant in the room, and Seeing the elephant.

I stand by my observations. I don't have an axe to grind with anyone here. I've turned to and trusted all the advice given by this forum. Its why I ask. Your responses suggest a greater knowledge than your letting on. I'm not putting forward a conspiracy theory. Simply suggesting that you are giving a leg up to a small firm that you think deserves to grow, and jumping to it's defence. Without being entirely candid.

Cotty

39,586 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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So what did you order?

Du1point8

21,612 posts

193 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Im guessing unless Cotty has given up his job in central London with art and stuff and not mentioned it, Im pretty certain he's not associated with any vaping companies.

Either that or not mentioned it at the last vaping session we did in town

smileymikey

1,446 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Cotty said:
So what did you order?
It was that bloody long ago I've forgotten smile

smileymikey

1,446 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Du1point8 said:
Im guessing unless Cotty has given up his job in central London with art and stuff and not mentioned it, Im pretty certain he's not associated with any vaping companies.

Either that or not mentioned it at the last vaping session we did in town
To quote "I'm not putting forward a conspiracy theory. Simply suggesting that you are giving a leg up to a small firm that you think deserves to grow, and jumping to it's defence. Without being entirely candid."

CuckooInMyNest

2,985 posts

177 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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smileymikey said:
I don't have an axe to grind with anyone here.
Except Cotty.....who was trying to help you.

telford_mike

1,219 posts

186 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Just bought a couple of Innokin vv batteries and the iclear 16 clearos. All going well 24 hours in.

Question. Is it normal for these to leak? I keep mine vertical all the time but I get fluid leaking onto my fingers whenever I use it.

Du1point8

21,612 posts

193 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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telford_mike said:
Just bought a couple of Innokin vv batteries and the iclear 16 clearos. All going well 24 hours in.

Question. Is it normal for these to leak? I keep mine vertical all the time but I get fluid leaking onto my fingers whenever I use it.
No...

Cartridges leak if upright... clearomisers should be fine unless not screwed together properly... don't need to keep them vertical either, their should be no leakage.

griffin dai

3,203 posts

150 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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CuckooInMyNest said:
Except Cotty.....who was trying to help you.
This^^^^

One of the main contributors to the thread and has helped a load of guys out and probably saved them a few quid!

There's a fair few on here more than willing to use their time to help others pointing them in the right direction with what kit to get ranging from a basic starter kit to more advanced stuff like mods & rebuildable's....and even whats to be avoid so you don't waste your money. Same with different juices & links to various vendors so you don't have to spend hours searching the net getting more & more confused....

Ok so the delivery date has been longer than you thought....happened to me last month from another vendor who was just back logged with customers all getting in on the same deal, so it look another 3 or 4 days to arrive. No great shakes and it's not really a big deal is it! It'll turn up....if it doesn't then get back to the vendor not the guy who recommended it rolleyes

People ask for advice/help and they get it....lots of it! If they then come back on here and have a pop at someone because the deliverys taken longer than expected or like I've seen elsewhere they don't like the the flavour on the juice!! Advice & help will start to dry up just incase you get flamed for it! Just saying wink


smileymikey

1,446 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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griffin dai said:
CuckooInMyNest said:
Except Cotty.....who was trying to help you.
This^^^^

One of the main contributors to the thread and has helped a load of guys out and probably saved them a few quid!

There's a fair few on here more than willing to use their time to help others pointing them in the right direction with what kit to get ranging from a basic starter kit to more advanced stuff like mods & rebuildable's....and even whats to be avoid so you don't waste your money. Same with different juices & links to various vendors so you don't have to spend hours searching the net getting more & more confused....

Ok so the delivery date has been longer than you thought....happened to me last month from another vendor who was just back logged with customers all getting in on the same deal, so it look another 3 or 4 days to arrive. No great shakes and it's not really a big deal is it! It'll turn up....if it doesn't then get back to the vendor not the guy who recommended it rolleyes

People ask for advice/help and they get it....lots of it! If they then come back on here and have a pop at someone because the deliverys taken longer than expected or like I've seen elsewhere they don't like the the flavour on the juice!! Advice & help will start to dry up just incase you get flamed for it! Just saying wink
In my defence. My original post was an observation about the service I received from a recommended company, not about anyone's advice. At no point at that stage was I critising any recommendation I had received. It was all aimed more at the companies responses to my email comparing my experience with them and a competitor. I'm not going to post the response because I think the guy involved feels passionately about his new start firm and putting it bluntly as I stated acted like a toddler that had had his arse smacked and would reply in a different way given ten minutes to think things through.I take the view that the forum is to share experiences both good and bad with companies that offer us services and products.I would repeat my point about having two failures on the Mini Protank I ordered, I'm pragmatic about these things. Had a problem, problem got sorted everyone happy. You didnt hear a word from me about it.In his responses Cotty mirrored my communications with the company involved in an uncanny way, I didnt suggest a big conspiracy, simply that he may have felt that a good company that he had contact with needed sticking up for.

Cotty

39,586 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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smileymikey said:
Du1point8 said:
Im guessing unless Cotty has given up his job in central London with art and stuff and not mentioned it, Im pretty certain he's not associated with any vaping companies.

Either that or not mentioned it at the last vaping session we did in town
To quote "I'm not putting forward a conspiracy theory. Simply suggesting that you are giving a leg up to a small firm that you think deserves to grow, and jumping to it's defence. Without being entirely candid."
Im on a facebook group called UK Vape Clouds https://www.facebook.com/groups/ukvapeclouds/15249... I asked on there for juice suggestions Vapemuki was suggested, I passed the suggestions on here as I thought it would be helpfull. I bought three bottles,

Bazilla Custard - Vanilla custard
Barbed Custard - Rhubarb and custard.
The Gurner - Apple

The vanilla is really nice if you have a sweet tooth, I prefer the sweet/sour apple flavour so bought a 50ml bottle. Im not pushing anyone to order just making a suggestion.



Edited by Cotty on Wednesday 3rd September 19:14

SWoll

18,449 posts

259 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Du1point8 said:
telford_mike said:
Just bought a couple of Innokin vv batteries and the iclear 16 clearos. All going well 24 hours in.

Question. Is it normal for these to leak? I keep mine vertical all the time but I get fluid leaking onto my fingers whenever I use it.
No...

Cartridges leak if upright... clearomisers should be fine unless not screwed together properly... don't need to keep them vertical either, their should be no leakage.
Don't agree with that TBH. I always had issues with the cheaper clearos (plastic) leaking as have many other vapers I know, especially the top coiled ones like the iclear.

I would recommend replacing them with something made from pyrex/glass and bottom coiled.

These are very good for a low capacity tank.

These are my personal favourite if you don't mind something a bit bigger.

Used both for 12 months + and never had a single leak.
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