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griffin dai said:
Sway said:
Cotty, not me with the Aspire starter kit chap.
I'm the one who spent a fortune on a shiny machined billet box that works no better than an Aspire starter kit, as it uses the same coils!
I'm begining to come to the same conclusion. I've spend hundreds on different bits of kit now and still my go to tank is the nautilus mini. I've brought this plus a few RBA's & drippers away with me to use with the cf battery & iistick. No matter how I build these coils, how much cotton I use Im still getting BAGS more flavour from the nautilus mini. For 20 quid its a fantastic tank to have! I'm the one who spent a fortune on a shiny machined billet box that works no better than an Aspire starter kit, as it uses the same coils!
I don't regret buying the Billet Box at all - I knew beforehand that it was designed as a carto tank, but with the power feed built in.
It was bought because I love the all in one design, and the engineering.
So the vape has in many ways exceeded expectations (as I'm not using bloody cartos!) and I consider it value for money.
Not too fussed by rebuildables after a couple of months playing around with them over a year ago. If the long rumoured rebuildable tank comes out for it I'll get one, but won't be surprised if it doesn't match up to the bvc coils!
What I really, really want is a Billet Box using a 'normal' powered dna chip - there have been a couple made that look OE, but I don't have the skills or equipment to achieve that, so the wait is likely to be fruitless...
Although there have been a couple of intriguing 'internal atomiser' mods released recently that can use Aspire tanks powered by a dna chip - as is usual though they're virtually impossible to buy without more effort than I have time for.
Sway said:
Cotty, not me with the Aspire starter kit chap.
I'm the one who spent a fortune on a shiny machined billet box that works no better than an Aspire starter kit, as it uses the same coils!
Sorry, you posted a link in a post to the k1 starter kit so thought you had one as a back up. I put 2 and 2 together and got 7 I'm the one who spent a fortune on a shiny machined billet box that works no better than an Aspire starter kit, as it uses the same coils!
Unf said:
As it's described as indescribable, maybe try the Thorangine and describe it for us? 
Im getting little to no flavour, I have vaped about 2ml in a mini nautilus. A little disappointed, im going to let it and the other juices steep for a week and see it they improve. What I will say, excluding the flavour, is its a really great vape, being a 100% VG juice I am no getting any throat hit but tons of vapour. Cotty said:
Sway said:
Cotty, not me with the Aspire starter kit chap.
I'm the one who spent a fortune on a shiny machined billet box that works no better than an Aspire starter kit, as it uses the same coils!
Sorry, you posted a link in a post to the k1 starter kit so thought you had one as a back up. I put 2 and 2 together and got 7 I'm the one who spent a fortune on a shiny machined billet box that works no better than an Aspire starter kit, as it uses the same coils!
I bought the missus one (the fourth attempt at getting her vaping - she's had ce4 (when they were the daddy), evod, k1 and something else in between).
She's my only abject failure - even her sister, who's a poisonous witch who spent 2 years attempting to take the piss for 'sucking on a Sonic screwdriver' ended up getting the evod kit off my other half and hasn't smoked in over 6 months.
Other than that, I'm quite proud in saying I've helped well over a hundred friends and colleagues to quit smoking (at one point I was taking 15 evod kits to Zurich a week for over a month!).
The rate at which kit is getting better and better is just phenomenal.
I'm actually sad enough to have kept all the old stuff - have you seen how much the early mobile phones go for now?!
I'm pretty bad for carrying a back up. 7ish ml capacity and a spare couple of little batteries is fine for me. On the occasions I've had a complete cock up, I'll happily choke down a cigarette until I get home and sorted. Not great, but then I've never done this as a way of kicking the addiction.
Sway said:
Cotty, not me with the Aspire starter kit chap.
I'm the one who spent a fortune on a shiny machined billet box that works no better than an Aspire starter kit, as it uses the same coils!
Might be me Cotty is referring to! I am puffing away right now on my Aspire kit. With a nice red wine. All good.I'm the one who spent a fortune on a shiny machined billet box that works no better than an Aspire starter kit, as it uses the same coils!
Sway said:
I bought the missus one (the fourth attempt at getting her vaping - she's had ce4 (when they were the daddy), evod, k1 and something else in between).
She's my only abject failure - even her sister, who's a poisonous witch who spent 2 years attempting to take the piss for 'sucking on a Sonic screwdriver' ended up getting the evod kit off my other half and hasn't smoked in over 6 months.
I tried to get my step mum into vaping. Standing on their patio (no smoking on the house) my dad suggests she tries my vape. "Oh no I have just eaten" So she can smoke after food but not try a vape She's my only abject failure - even her sister, who's a poisonous witch who spent 2 years attempting to take the piss for 'sucking on a Sonic screwdriver' ended up getting the evod kit off my other half and hasn't smoked in over 6 months.
Sway said:
I'm pretty bad for carrying a back up. 7ish ml capacity and a spare couple of little batteries is fine for me. On the occasions I've had a complete cock up, I'll happily choke down a cigarette until I get home and sorted. Not great, but then I've never done this as a way of kicking the addiction.
There is always the risk with a glass tank of smashing it, so I tend to carry two nautilus. If nothing else for the choice of flavours, got a nice rhubarb on the go at the moment.. Cotty said:
Unf said:
As it's described as indescribable, maybe try the Thorangine and describe it for us?
Im getting little to no flavour, I have vaped about 2ml in a mini nautilus. A little disappointed, im going to let it and the other juices steep for a week and see it they improve. What I will say, excluding the flavour, is its a really great vape, being a 100% VG juice I am no getting any throat hit but tons of vapour. 100% VG is not for me then.
Flavour and throat hit are a must for me. The amount of vapour is a secondary (tertiary?) requirement but is nice for blowing vape rings for that old school smoking feel.
Now with some Rhubard & Custard and a very large Rum Punch. Rarr.
Cotty said:
Sway said:
I bought the missus one (the fourth attempt at getting her vaping - she's had ce4 (when they were the daddy), evod, k1 and something else in between).
She's my only abject failure - even her sister, who's a poisonous witch who spent 2 years attempting to take the piss for 'sucking on a Sonic screwdriver' ended up getting the evod kit off my other half and hasn't smoked in over 6 months.
I tried to get my step mum into vaping. Standing on their patio (no smoking on the house) my dad suggests she tries my vape. "Oh no I have just eaten" So she can smoke after food but not try a vape She's my only abject failure - even her sister, who's a poisonous witch who spent 2 years attempting to take the piss for 'sucking on a Sonic screwdriver' ended up getting the evod kit off my other half and hasn't smoked in over 6 months.
She also rebutted a taste of my whey protein shake as she was worried about the chemicals in it.
Madness. But hey, different generation.
VEA said:
griffin dai said:
New sub ohm cf battery from Aspire
http://www.aspirecig.com/products/MOD/mod185.html
They've got new sub ohm coils out & a new Atlantis tank
Looks similar to the silo tank
http://www.aspirecig.com/products/Atlantis/
Coils
http://www.ukecigstore.com/aspire-sub-ohm-coils.ht...
Great stuff! Nice handy sub ohm package. I'll be getting the battery & these coils for the silo.
Aspire keep stepping up at the moment. I'm going to get one of these kits to try out. At this rate Kanger are going to disappear.http://www.aspirecig.com/products/MOD/mod185.html
They've got new sub ohm coils out & a new Atlantis tank
Looks similar to the silo tank
http://www.aspirecig.com/products/Atlantis/
Coils
http://www.ukecigstore.com/aspire-sub-ohm-coils.ht...
Great stuff! Nice handy sub ohm package. I'll be getting the battery & these coils for the silo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KWdKAnV6RM
CharlesAL said:
What's the problem with using a sub-ohm coil on an ego battery?
Are sub-ohms mainly for making a ridiculous amount of vapour?
It's dangerous mate so don't do it, I can see a few people trying this with these new sub ohm coils not realising what can happen. Are sub-ohms mainly for making a ridiculous amount of vapour?
I tended not to go below 1.4ohms on my ego batteries when I'd rebuild the Kanger heads, but even then felt like it should be a bit higher so preferred to have them around 1.6-2.0 ohm, I rebuilt most at 1.7ohms.
If you want sub ohm (go under 1ohm) then you should really get yourself a mod with a decent battery like a Sony VTC4 or even better Sony VTC5 if you can find one! or Efest Purple 35A. There's others available but these are what I use. Or go for this new aspire sub battery (I'll be getting one as its a handy for traveling)
Then look at either the Aspire Atlantis when it's out, or get a decent RBA or try a dripper (RDA) Take a look on Fasttech for some clones (copies/replicas) as they're nice & cheap to see if you like it.
I'm not really into mega sub ohming though, gave it a go with a few drippers and yeah you get tons of vapour with a VG heavy juice but I found the flavour not as good but some guys prefer it. I usually build the coils around 1.0 -1.5ohms to use with this iistick, but have done a few drippers around 0.7ohm but that's about as low as I go. That's on my mech mods though, I haven't got anything else that will handle below 1.0ohm but some regulated mods can do it.
Yep, going sub 1ohm you're essentially moving pretty close to a proper 'short' of the battery. If the coil is robust (which is there are - fuse wire isn't used!) Then you're relying on the protection within the battery (or clever regulating circuitry) to prevent the thing discharging effectively instantly. That has a couple of potential outcomes - massive drain on battery so short life. If the battery is designed for such a scenario, then it'll give loads of power (watts) and the coil will get really bloody hot (and there's starting to be a decent body of evidence that vaping at really high coil temps is really quite nasty) or, worst case, the battery vents/explodes.
Back in the days of 'normal' batteries, that would just mean a dead battery (maybe with that white powdery stuff all over the place). Now we're using lithium ion batteries, then that's the best case. Worst case is a fire that creates it's own oxygen - normal fire suppression doesn't work, it'll keep on burning...
Vaping is generally safe. As always though, there are guys and girls pushing the boundaries. Sometimes that advances things. In the case of sub-ohming/silly wattage mods, it would seem to be more willy waving, with potentially very serious downsides.
(Chemistry/Physics above are based on knowledge I haven't used in a fair while, but the principles are correct even if there are a couple of mistakes.)
Back in the days of 'normal' batteries, that would just mean a dead battery (maybe with that white powdery stuff all over the place). Now we're using lithium ion batteries, then that's the best case. Worst case is a fire that creates it's own oxygen - normal fire suppression doesn't work, it'll keep on burning...
Vaping is generally safe. As always though, there are guys and girls pushing the boundaries. Sometimes that advances things. In the case of sub-ohming/silly wattage mods, it would seem to be more willy waving, with potentially very serious downsides.
(Chemistry/Physics above are based on knowledge I haven't used in a fair while, but the principles are correct even if there are a couple of mistakes.)
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king hell that's mental.
I've had the misfortune to have seen some of the effects of messing around with high power DC kit.
One chap, wearing a metal watch, picked up a big battery without using the handles (think car battery in cross section but about five times as long - big energy capacity). A quick flash and the battery, and his hand, were back on the floor. The medics who turned up treated him for shock, and said a surgeon wouldn't have been able to amputate so cleanly...
Another was a much smaller lipo battery whose charging circuit failed. CO2 fire extinguishers did nothing. A big pile of sand merely prevented the flames from burning the surroundings...
Here's a great article of the issues with lipos - note it specifically mentions some of the battery types we use in vaping kit...
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/safety_...
king hell that's mental. I've had the misfortune to have seen some of the effects of messing around with high power DC kit.
One chap, wearing a metal watch, picked up a big battery without using the handles (think car battery in cross section but about five times as long - big energy capacity). A quick flash and the battery, and his hand, were back on the floor. The medics who turned up treated him for shock, and said a surgeon wouldn't have been able to amputate so cleanly...
Another was a much smaller lipo battery whose charging circuit failed. CO2 fire extinguishers did nothing. A big pile of sand merely prevented the flames from burning the surroundings...
Here's a great article of the issues with lipos - note it specifically mentions some of the battery types we use in vaping kit...
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/safety_...
some crazy stories about sub ohm-ing! but pretty pointless it seems. as said it's about pushing the boundaries.
whilst im here - i just took delivery of this manabush nanabozho
http://allthejuices.com/juice/manabush-nanabozho
it's wildly different to anything i've tried so far. my first creamy vape and it's quite yummy. dont think i could hack it for more than a day at a time though. Saying that, i cant hack more than any flavour for much more than a day. I like to switch flavours daily to keep interested.
It really does taste like an oaty,banabna, caramel type desert though! Pretty gloopy, but very flavoursome and not too overpowering
whilst im here - i just took delivery of this manabush nanabozho
http://allthejuices.com/juice/manabush-nanabozho
it's wildly different to anything i've tried so far. my first creamy vape and it's quite yummy. dont think i could hack it for more than a day at a time though. Saying that, i cant hack more than any flavour for much more than a day. I like to switch flavours daily to keep interested.
It really does taste like an oaty,banabna, caramel type desert though! Pretty gloopy, but very flavoursome and not too overpowering
nitrodave said:
some crazy stories about sub ohm-ing! but pretty pointless it seems. as said it's about pushing the boundaries.
whilst im here - i just took delivery of this manabush nanabozho
http://allthejuices.com/juice/manabush-nanabozho
it's wildly different to anything i've tried so far. my first creamy vape and it's quite yummy. dont think i could hack it for more than a day at a time though. Saying that, i cant hack more than any flavour for much more than a day. I like to switch flavours daily to keep interested.
It really does taste like an oaty,banabna, caramel type desert though! Pretty gloopy, but very flavoursome and not too overpowering
I ordered 3 Manabush last week, Powwow, Chirkahua Sun and Nokomis. My first decent tobacco based juices, I hate tobacco juices usually and wasnt keen at first but have just finished the 3rd bottle! It's a weird one this! I don't really like them that much and prefer custardy or furity menthol ones....but can't out them down! I'll probably get the full range to try out. whilst im here - i just took delivery of this manabush nanabozho
http://allthejuices.com/juice/manabush-nanabozho
it's wildly different to anything i've tried so far. my first creamy vape and it's quite yummy. dont think i could hack it for more than a day at a time though. Saying that, i cant hack more than any flavour for much more than a day. I like to switch flavours daily to keep interested.
It really does taste like an oaty,banabna, caramel type desert though! Pretty gloopy, but very flavoursome and not too overpowering
Everyone raves about Powwow but I prefer the other two. The youtube reviews are right though, need to keep them around 7/8 watts for best flavour.
They're worth a go anyway if anyone's thinking about it, bit different to the usual stuff
Love this thread & all the friendly advice.
Out with a mate for his birthday tomorrow, just realised that's been a year since my last real cig.
Over the year have spent more than I should but enjoyed the new hobby...
My wife just laughs at the utility room top cupboard...
2 pro tank mini 3's, 2 pro tank 2's, 1 Aspire nautilus, 1 nautilus mini & various others. Do like & use them all, great to have a selection for different juices.
New toy turned up today, e-grip. Fantastic!
Thanks for all the great advice
Out with a mate for his birthday tomorrow, just realised that's been a year since my last real cig.
Over the year have spent more than I should but enjoyed the new hobby...
My wife just laughs at the utility room top cupboard...
2 pro tank mini 3's, 2 pro tank 2's, 1 Aspire nautilus, 1 nautilus mini & various others. Do like & use them all, great to have a selection for different juices.
New toy turned up today, e-grip. Fantastic!
Thanks for all the great advice
Just seen they've released a new tank for my billet box.
Instead of having an opaque plastic with a ball valve to fill, it's got a sliding 'borosilicate' glass front.
So it looks better, but is more of a faff to fill (although I don't need to use a plastic tipped syringe).
The fact it looks better is kinda lost when you can see the tank in use. The syringe isn't a problem cause it's got a 7ml capacity to which lasts me two days. So effectively it's pointless.
I need it.
However it'll be about fifty quid landed in the UK.
Bugger.
Instead of having an opaque plastic with a ball valve to fill, it's got a sliding 'borosilicate' glass front.
So it looks better, but is more of a faff to fill (although I don't need to use a plastic tipped syringe).
The fact it looks better is kinda lost when you can see the tank in use. The syringe isn't a problem cause it's got a 7ml capacity to which lasts me two days. So effectively it's pointless.
I need it.
However it'll be about fifty quid landed in the UK.
Bugger.
A colleague quit cold turkey, just stopped. New baby was an influence. Although commenting that my pipes as he likes to call them are OTT, admitted that after a few beers he likes to smoke a cig or two and having tried an ecig wanted to get something to vape on instead.
On one hand he isn't a smoker just wanted something to puff on on the occasional night out. Also didn't want to wait for a delivery, wanted it that second, so went to a corner shop and bought a basic starter kit tank, battery, charger, basic juice £20. After watching him have a few puffs, its garbage, I suggested the Aspire Starter kit consisting of K1 Glassomizer and G-Power 900mah ££34.96
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NSYAH9E/ref=...
He will probably buy the Aspire kit, So £20 + £35 = £55 and he could have waited a day or two and saved £20 and just bought a decent kit in the first place. I despair
On one hand he isn't a smoker just wanted something to puff on on the occasional night out. Also didn't want to wait for a delivery, wanted it that second, so went to a corner shop and bought a basic starter kit tank, battery, charger, basic juice £20. After watching him have a few puffs, its garbage, I suggested the Aspire Starter kit consisting of K1 Glassomizer and G-Power 900mah ££34.96
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NSYAH9E/ref=...
He will probably buy the Aspire kit, So £20 + £35 = £55 and he could have waited a day or two and saved £20 and just bought a decent kit in the first place. I despair
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