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[VEA]

Has anyone come across a mod that has temp control for stainless steel?

[stevoknevo]

griffin dai said:

Right I need a new TC mod!!!!!

This vapor shark DNA40 pos is getting launched out the fking window!!!!

I've only got maybe £50 to spend here so I guess I'm pretty limited. Don't mind getting from FT or GB. Don't mind what brand/color it is as long as the thing does the opposite of this and actually works!!

Any recommendations? Tend to Vape around 22-25w so don't really need a cloud blowing 100w beast! Mainly using 22mm drippers here if that makes a difference?

I've tried my best with this thing....but you really can't polish a turd

IPV D2 - got mine from Gearbest EU for £30ish. Tiny, 75w, does ni200 and titanium. Uses a DC jack charger instead of USB, but they supply the cable with it. I'm using NiFe30 wire in it and it's a cracking vape - best mod I've owned by far.

Doesn't do step-down in kantha/power mode, but you can work around that by putting it in Ti mode and setting temp to 550f = step-down

Have heard the latest revision has step-down?

[griffin dai]

Thanks guys will look into the Sigelei & IPV this week

@steve....step down? What's that mate?

[Shnozz]

So my shiny Nebox was delivered yesterday and I am totally and utterly out of my depth when it comes to setting it up. Far too much geek speak, cant understand the instructions and a million different options. A cursory google shows up a load of stuff about sub-ohm vaping or something, different coils for different things and different wattage/ampage and temperature settings.

I fear it will go onto the shelf never to be used again. I can't even work out which buttons I press to reduce the 600 degree temperature its set to out of the box

Life was so much simpler with the istick and one button! I am not techie enough for these clever vapes, I just need one button

[stevoknevo]

griffin dai said:

Thanks guys will look into the Sigelei & IPV this week

@steve....step down? What's that mate?

The mod can only put out the voltage of the battery, it can't 'buck' or step-down - I had a tank on mine last week with a 0.5 build which said it was putting 3.6v volts at 25w; it was a fresh battery so it was actually putting 35w to the tank, which is too much for that tank. Doing the titanium trick means it's putting out what you ask for - this only happens in power mode, no issues in temp control or higher resistance kanthal builds.

It's a stonking wee mod, not much bigger than a 40w istic, yihi chip, and feels like it would survive just about any abuse you could throw at it. I've had a few mods now, and this is my third TC device, hands down the best so far. Really accurate resistance reading and locks the resistance by pressing up and down together for a couple of seconds.

Before you totally give up on the dna40, get some NiFe30 wire from stealthvape - the resistance is slightly higher than ni200 so you don't need massive coils, and it's almost as easy to work with and as robust as kanthal. I've got a 9 wrap spaced coil, 26awg, 3mm ID, coming in at 0.16, and it's going perfectly - you need to lower the temp slightly by 20f or so compared to ni200. 26awg for single coils, 28awg for duals.

Edited by stevoknevo on Wednesday 18th November 12:00

[Cotty]

Shnozz said:

Life was so much simpler with the istick and one button! I am not techie enough for these clever vapes, I just need one button

istick is three buttons, up down and fire. The Nebox is very similar. It think it has a normal mode chose that and ignore the temp control and bypass options.

The best thing you can do is read the instructions which are usually quite good on Kanger products and watch a few reviews on YouTube. They should walk you through the menu and show you how it all works and goes together.

[Cotty]

Opara said:

I was thinking of upgrading to a new kit , the Istick seems popular though I don't know which wattage to choose.As ofr an atomiser , how is the Kanger subtank mini?

I was looking to not spend more than £40 - could I get a decent bit of kit for this?

A Nautilus Mini and istick should be a great upgrade. A bit of shopping around and you might be able to get under £40
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Genuine-Eleaf-iStick-Aspir...

[Sag1]

Hi guys, I finally got rid of the Sigelei 75w. I saw a few people have been talking about it in recent posts and I would say have a long think about what type of tank you will be putting on it as the single 18650 doesn't last very long at all.

I was using my Uwell Crown with the 0.25ohm coil at 70w and the Sigelei would run out of power half way down the tank (2ml!). Got really frustrating.

Decided to replace it with a Smok X-Cube II. I got the black one with another Uwell Crown in black too.







Almost identical to the Sigelei 150w size wise. Just a few grams heavier. Love it thus far, only downside I've found is in TC mode, once it reaches the set temp and cuts off, the cut off is very noticeable. So if my mod is set at 500 it 'feels like' it drops off to 470 then back up, then back down and back up. I'm not sure if this is accurate but it's what it feels like.
When I try the same tank on my brothers eVic VTC Mini, the temp is maintained extremely well and improves the vape.

Also picked up some new eliquid



Note: Phillip Rocke fans - Don't bother with the Signature Series, they are awful. Truly awful.

Edited by Sag1 on Wednesday 18th November 16:37

[Cotty]

I used to run my Nautilus Mini on a 20w istick so the 30w or 40w will be fine. I wouldn't bother with the 50w due to problems people have experienced.

[TX1]

[quote=Sag1]Hi guys, I finally got rid of the Sigelei 75w. I saw a few people have been talking about it in recent posts and I would say have a long think about what type of tank you will be putting on it as the single 18650 doesn't last very long at all.

I was using my Uwell Crown with the 0.25ohm coil at 70w and the Sigelei would run out of power half way down the tank (2ml!). Got really frustrating.







Grant you the Sigelei 75w is on the thirsty side however if you vape at 70w no wonder the battery runs out quickly and to be fair most of us do not vape at 70w.
I have a Kayfun v4 clone set on it at .16 ohms with ni200 and I never feel the need to go over 18w at 186c so I get about 8ml worth before the battery needs swapping.

[Sag1]

TX1 said:

Grant you the Sigelei 75w is on the thirsty side however if you vape at 70w no wonder the battery runs out quickly and to be fair most of us do not vape at 70w.
I have a Kayfun v4 clone set on it at .16 ohms with ni200 and I never feel the need to go over 18w at 186c so I get about 8ml worth before the battery needs swapping.

Very true. When I used my Subtank (at around 22w) and it lasted a couple of days. Just a word of warning for those wanting to use larger tanks as they are becoming popular now.

[griffin dai]

stevoknevo said:

The mod can only put out the voltage of the battery, it can't 'buck' or step-down - I had a tank on mine last week with a 0.5 build which said it was putting 3.6v volts at 25w; it was a fresh battery so it was actually putting 35w to the tank, which is too much for that tank. Doing the titanium trick means it's putting out what you ask for - this only happens in power mode, no issues in temp control or higher resistance kanthal builds.

It's a stonking wee mod, not much bigger than a 40w istic, yihi chip, and feels like it would survive just about any abuse you could throw at it. I've had a few mods now, and this is my third TC device, hands down the best so far. Really accurate resistance reading and locks the resistance by pressing up and down together for a couple of seconds.

Before you totally give up on the dna40, get some NiFe30 wire from stealthvape - the resistance is slightly higher than ni200 so you don't need massive coils, and it's almost as easy to work with and as robust as kanthal. I've got a 9 wrap spaced coil, 26awg, 3mm ID, coming in at 0.16, and it's going perfectly - you need to lower the temp slightly by 20f or so compared to ni200. 26awg for single coils, 28awg for duals.

Edited by stevoknevo on Wednesday 18th November 12:00

Thanks Steve, I'll give the new wire a go before changing mods then. Can this also be twisted like nickel or no need?

I've just been running the DNA40 in power mode the last few days, works excellent here but TC modes a right pain in the tits!!

Also ran out of juice over the weekend, so nipped to the local shop & snagged some DRPN Donuts Bear Claw not bad, expensive for 30ml though!!!! Lesson learnt!!!

[VEA]

griffin dai said:

Thanks Steve, I'll give the new wire a go before changing mods then. Can this also be twisted like nickel or no need?

I've just been running the DNA40 in power mode the last few days, works excellent here but TC modes a right pain in the tits!!

Also ran out of juice over the weekend, so nipped to the local shop & snagged some DRPN Donuts Bear Claw not bad, expensive for 30ml though!!!! Lesson learnt!!!

£11 here https://www.getvape.co.uk/collections/drpn-donuts

Still a lot though.

[griffin dai]

Paid £20 but was stuck and in a hurry

I'm stocking up pay day!!

[VEA]

I'm still looking for somewhere that stocks ModFuel in the UK, they have a couple of wonderful flavours. Really thick.

[stevoknevo]

griffin dai said:

stevoknevo said:

The mod can only put out the voltage of the battery, it can't 'buck' or step-down - I had a tank on mine last week with a 0.5 build which said it was putting 3.6v volts at 25w; it was a fresh battery so it was actually putting 35w to the tank, which is too much for that tank. Doing the titanium trick means it's putting out what you ask for - this only happens in power mode, no issues in temp control or higher resistance kanthal builds.

It's a stonking wee mod, not much bigger than a 40w istic, yihi chip, and feels like it would survive just about any abuse you could throw at it. I've had a few mods now, and this is my third TC device, hands down the best so far. Really accurate resistance reading and locks the resistance by pressing up and down together for a couple of seconds.

Before you totally give up on the dna40, get some NiFe30 wire from stealthvape - the resistance is slightly higher than ni200 so you don't need massive coils, and it's almost as easy to work with and as robust as kanthal. I've got a 9 wrap spaced coil, 26awg, 3mm ID, coming in at 0.16, and it's going perfectly - you need to lower the temp slightly by 20f or so compared to ni200. 26awg for single coils, 28awg for duals.

Edited by stevoknevo on Wednesday 18th November 12:00

Thanks Steve, I'll give the new wire a go before changing mods then. Can this also be twisted like nickel or no need?

I've just been running the DNA40 in power mode the last few days, works excellent here but TC modes a right pain in the tits!!

Also ran out of juice over the weekend, so nipped to the local shop & snagged some DRPN Donuts Bear Claw not bad, expensive for 30ml though!!!! Lesson learnt!!!

I've been using it as, don't see any reason why you couldn't use it twisted? I've got a single spaced coil in my UTA2 2 clone, 0.17, 390f at 24 joules and it's a cracking vape

There's that many TC wires now that seem to be the next best thing - it's went from ni200 to titanium to NiFe30 (there's other NiFe wire, 48 and 52 I think, but are expensive) and now stainless steel. I gave up on ni200 almost right away as it's a PITA to work with; I had good results with titanium provided you washed the wire first! NiFe30 has been virtually hassle free - it's also far less fussy about wicking than the first two? But spaced coils seems to be the general consensus with all wires for effective TC.

I can send you some to try, but it would be the end of next week.

IPV D2 is £27 on FT, ships next day - there is a D3 due out next month that has more power in TC mode and step-down. Joyetech evic mini is £25 on FT, out of stock in black, in stock in white or cyan - 60w but is software upgradeable - they've already released firmware updates to 75w and stainless steel wire. USB charging.

There's some real bargain mods over the last couple of months.

[VEA]

stevoknevo said:

I've been using it as, don't see any reason why you couldn't use it twisted? I've got a single spaced coil in my UTA2 2 clone, 0.17, 390f at 24 joules and it's a cracking vape

There's that many TC wires now that seem to be the next best thing - it's went from ni200 to titanium to NiFe30 (there's other NiFe wire, 48 and 52 I think, but are expensive) and now stainless steel. I gave up on ni200 almost right away as it's a PITA to work with; I had good results with titanium provided you washed the wire first! NiFe30 has been virtually hassle free - it's also far less fussy about wicking than the first two? But spaced coils seems to be the general consensus with all wires for effective TC.

I can send you some to try, but it would be the end of next week.

IPV D2 is £27 on FT, ships next day - there is a D3 due out next month that has more power in TC mode and step-down. Joyetech evic mini is £25 on FT, out of stock in black, in stock in white or cyan - 60w but is software upgradeable - they've already released firmware updates to 75w and stainless steel wire. USB charging.

There's some real bargain mods over the last couple of months.

Hang on.... Is the D2 capable of TC with Stainless?

[stevoknevo]

VEA said:

stevoknevo said:

I've been using it as, don't see any reason why you couldn't use it twisted? I've got a single spaced coil in my UTA2 2 clone, 0.17, 390f at 24 joules and it's a cracking vape

There's that many TC wires now that seem to be the next best thing - it's went from ni200 to titanium to NiFe30 (there's other NiFe wire, 48 and 52 I think, but are expensive) and now stainless steel. I gave up on ni200 almost right away as it's a PITA to work with; I had good results with titanium provided you washed the wire first! NiFe30 has been virtually hassle free - it's also far less fussy about wicking than the first two? But spaced coils seems to be the general consensus with all wires for effective TC.

I can send you some to try, but it would be the end of next week.

IPV D2 is £27 on FT, ships next day - there is a D3 due out next month that has more power in TC mode and step-down. Joyetech evic mini is £25 on FT, out of stock in black, in stock in white or cyan - 60w but is software upgradeable - they've already released firmware updates to 75w and stainless steel wire. USB charging.

There's some real bargain mods over the last couple of months.

Hang on.... Is the D2 capable of TC with Stainless?

You can use it in power mode - it'll burn the cotton in TC mode as the temperature coefficient isn't adjustable on the D2. You might be able to use it by offsetting the temperature as I do with NiFe30, but it won't provide accurate temp control.

I use NiFe30 in my D2 on the ni200 setting at 380-390f and get good results - trying the same build in Ti01 mode even at max temp of 572f doesn't produce an acceptable vape for me.

AFAIK the evic mini does TC on SS but is set for 304L stainless, but only 316/317L seems readily available? The DNA200 devices have the ability to set the temperature coefficient resistance of any wire you wish, thus providing accurate temp control - but they are still relatively new, and expensive. They are also in the uber geek category to get the best out of them - the chip has it's own standalone software that you use via pc to set up the device, and for monitoring of performance amongst many other things. The new Wismec Reauleaux is the first to offer triple 18650 battery option instead of lipo packs that many of the other devices offer - lipo packs can be dodgy in the wrong hands!

I'm going old skool and buying a really nice mech mod instead of this mad geekery

[VEA]

Bah. I'm pretty much only using the SS coils in the crown now. The vape is just so satisfying I don't feel the need to build or faf around any more.

I've seen a couple of mods that offer TC using SS but they're all big bucks. The D2 is a great little mod, using that at 20w with the 0.25 SS coil for the crown is spot on.

[stevoknevo]

VEA said:

Bah. I'm pretty much only using the SS coils in the crown now. The vape is just so satisfying I don't feel the need to build or faf around any more.

I've seen a couple of mods that offer TC using SS but they're all big bucks. The D2 is a great little mod, using that at 20w with the 0.25 SS coil for the crown is spot on.

It's so satisfying because you aren't running it 20w Provided you are running in standard power mode, the D2 doesn't do step-down, so on a fresh battery you're actually running at 70w! Try a fresh battery at 7w and 50w and you'll notice no difference. 0.25 at 20w is 2.24v and you'd be lucky to get a wisp out of it. Do you notice the vape diminishing as the battery runs down? It's essentially running it's a mechanical would.

Joyetech evic mini does stainless TC properly and is £25 from Fasttech.