E-Cigs

[smokeey]

My main issue with making my own is that I don't seem to like many juice flavours.

The only one I've found that I really like is "Burst" by unicorn e juice. What are the chances of me being able to make something like that, I wouldn't know where to start.

[m3jappa]

Here you go
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/571458/Menthol%...

From that you can start to work out what you like and then start mixing things up a bit. Worst case is you won't like it, best is you will and save a fortune.

[BrewsterBear]

smokeey said:

Are you buying your juice or DIY?

I've only found one juice I really like and it's £10/30ml.

Buying, and yes, it does cost a fortune. I'll have to look into mixing my own at some point. I just don't want to make a hash of it and end up with a gallon of ste I have to take to the tip.

[DuncsGTi]

BrewsterBear said:

Buying, and yes, it does cost a fortune. I'll have to look into mixing my own at some point. I just don't want to make a hash of it and end up with a gallon of ste I have to take to the tip.

i tend to make small (10ml) testers of new flavours, then if i like it, multiply everything by 30 and make 300ml.

[smokeey]

Where are the DIYer's getting there equipment from ?

I've just been looking on the totally wicked website and as well as flavours theres options for Base, Dilutant 1 and Dilutant 2 and for each you can select PG, AG (??) and VG.
Is the base the nicotine ?

[smokeey]

m3jappa said:

Here you go
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/571458/Menthol%...

From that you can start to work out what you like and then start mixing things up a bit. Worst case is you won't like it, best is you will and save a fortune.

Thanks, plenty to have a look through there.

[DuncsGTi]

smokeey said:

Where are the DIYer's getting there equipment from ?

I've just been looking on the totally wicked website and as well as flavours theres options for Base, Dilutant 1 and Dilutant 2 and for each you can select PG, AG (??) and VG.
Is the base the nicotine ?

This is where I get most of my stuff from.

http://thee-cigshop.co.uk/DIY

Im using the Darkstar premixed PG/VG/Nic as I'm too lazy to mess about with working out Nic percentages etc. Its as simple as adding flavours (and sometimes a little extra 100% VG to thicken), steep and vape

[smokeey]

^ That's the kind of thing I need. Going to order the 85/15 vg/pg and a few flavourings after having a look at some recipes on the website posted earlier.

Thanks very much

[DuncsGTi]

smokeey said:

^ That's the kind of thing I need. Going to order the 85/15 vg/pg and a few flavourings after having a look at some recipes on the website posted earlier.

Thanks very much

No worries

Just so you know the 85/15 is actually 100% VG. It says in the description.

85/15 is the rough ratio you'll be looking at once you've added the pg based flavours to it.

[_dobbo_]

smokeey said:

Yeah I use 0.5 ohm coils in the Kanger so I'll give it a whirl at 50/60w on the Smok when it arrives

FWIW can't run my Kanger anywhere near that kind of wattage. Anything above about 40 and unless you're hoofing air like a dyson through it it tends to get a bit "burny"

[Rawwr]

smokeey said:

Rawwr said:

30ml/day would be impressive! If I go crazy, I can do about 12ml but usually it's about 6ml.

Thanks, is that with the same tank ?

That's with the TFV8 using the T4 heads (4 coils) at 100W.

[J8 SVG]

smokeey said:

The TFV8 is just going to be used at night when at home. For some reason I can happily use the Subvod all day whilst out during the day without having a cig. Then I get home and smoke 10 fags between 6-11pm

You might need to up your nicotine content as much as anything - I find that a decent mouth to lung (using a Kabuki clone with Triton Mini 1.8ohm Clapton coils) with higher nicotine is much more likely to stop a craving than my 110W Super cloudy set up with low nicotine juice

DuncsGTi said:

No worries

Just so you know the 85/15 is actually 100% VG. It says in the description.

85/15 is the rough ratio you'll be looking at once you've added the pg based flavours to it.

If you're planning on putting it in a tank, I'd recommend using a little more PG. Slightly less cloudy but better flavour and less chance of a dry hit. I aim for closer to 65% VG for tank juice

[griffin dai]

smokeey said:

Where are the DIYer's getting there equipment from ?

I've just been looking on the totally wicked website and as well as flavours theres options for Base, Dilutant 1 and Dilutant 2 and for each you can select PG, AG (??) and VG.
Is the base the nicotine ?

From a couple pages ago

griffin dai said:

You just need the PG/VG & Nic plus a few concentrates to get you started, wouldn't go mad like I did starting off and get a ton of concentrates as half have been wasted and only needed 0.5% for a few juices. Also worth getting some scales that can read down to 0.00g and if possible doesn't have auto shut off as its a pain when mixing large bottles. Syringes worth getting but I don't use these much now appart from adding the VG/PG & Nic to the bottles. Defo get nitrile gloves as you really don't want 72% nicotine on your skin. As for the Nic I prefer PG as its easier to work with, best get a few different blunt needles for the base liquids, a thicker one for VG & couple thinner for the PG & Nic.

I get my base liquids from DarkStar (1 lite VG, 500ml PG & 250ml Nic has lasted ages) I tend to mix full VG for back home use & out and about but 50/50 for work as it gets too foggy!

Also had some pre mixed base from The Juice Cabbin and a selection of different sized syringes, 10/30/50ml bottles (get a load of 10ml to start off and mix different flavours) Les also sells TFA & Capella concentrates, he does a monthly raffle with the TFA juices so worth getting a bottle to enter the draw Then the winners are announced on his YouTube channel.

Concentrates I get from Chefs Flavour, Flavourart and thee-cig shop. If you like strawberry & custard juices it's worth getting larger bottles of Capella VC version 1 and TFA Strawberry Ripe plus Capella Sweet Strawberry as they get used a lot. Also worth getting Ethyl Maltol as its used a lot as a Sweetner. Popular juices from FA worth getting are Meringue & Marshmallow and Sugar Cookies a good one. Flavour West Yellow cake seem to be used a lot and TFA Graham Cracker Clear. Depends what you like really but I've found the above are in a lot of nice recepies. I use ELR for recepies & the juice calculator but Reddits got some nice ones in there plus Vaping Underground.

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/create

http://www.darkstarvapour.co.uk
http://www.juicecabin.com
http://thee-cigshop.co.uk/index.php?route=common/h...
https://www.chefsflavours.co.uk/25-concentrates
http://www.flavourart.co.uk

DIY or DIE has some really nice ones to try out, he does a monthly online magazine for £3 a month thats really helpful and full of info if you get into the diy side of things. Vaping his Bronuts as I type

http://diyordievaping.com

HTH Dai

[Johnniem]

Am hoping for some PH wise people to come along and help a vaping numptie here. Have had a TECC Curve VT40 vape machine for a while now, having upgraded from an older machine of the same marque. I have tried my damnest to understand all the vaping science and buzzwords but to no avail. The simple problem is that I have never, despite changing settings etc, ever been able to taste the flavour of whatever vape fluid I have purchased. What's all that about? Its not that there is a hiddeous burnt taste but rather a tasteless cloud and not even as satisfying as the old ciggies.

I currently have the settings on 40.0w, 230 degrees C. I have been on forums (forae?) and read the manual several times but to no avail. I would really welcome some help as it all seems bloody pointless at the moment. Gave up the fags around 5 weeks ago and would just like to get a bit more out of this vaping thing. Perhaps a visit to one of the vaping shops would be the best way forward? Any thoughts on what may do the trick? Perhaps there is a more simple vaping machine which just requires the fluid to be put in and then everything will work well. I am too old for all this techno sh!te about building your own burners and leaving for 10 minutes at room temperature, or priming the burner, or whatever it's called. Easy stuff please chaps!

JM

[_dobbo_]

Johnniem said:

What's all that about? Its not that there is a hiddeous burnt taste but rather a tasteless cloud and not even as satisfying as the old ciggies.

If you're getting clouds then you should be getting flavour, at least some. What liquids are you using, and what flavours? Some are much stronger than others but for example almost any variant of the mints and fruit flavoured ones should be coming through strongly regardless of what kit you are using.

Johnniem said:

I currently have the settings on 40.0w, 230 degrees C.
JM

I assume you are using a low ohm coil with these settings? So something under 1.0ohms?

Edited to fix messed up quoting

Edited by _dobbo_ on Monday 7th November 10:05

[Johnniem]

_dobbo_ said:

Johnniem said:

What's all that about? Its not that there is a hiddeous burnt taste but rather a tasteless cloud and not even as satisfying as the old ciggies.
If you're getting clouds then you should be getting flavour, at least some. What liquids are you using, and what flavours? Some are much stronger than others but for example almost any variant of the mints and fruit flavoured ones should be coming through strongly regardless of what kit you are using.

Johnniem said:

I currently have the settings on 40.0w, 230 degrees C.
JM

I assume you are using a low ohm coil with these settings? So something under 1.0ohms?

0.15 I believe, as supplied with the purchased kit.

[J8 SVG]

Johnniem said:

0.15 I believe, as supplied with the purchased kit.

I don't want to be too negative but googling, it looks like a re-branded istick with their own tank on it? If so, changing your tank would be the first thing I'd recommend. The mod (battery) should be fine but if you're getting no flavour, it's the coils and tank that will be at fault.

I'd recommend trying something like a Kanger toptank with 0.5ohm NC80 coils (non temp control but they have nickel coils for TC if you prefer), I've found them to be the most reliable starter tanks with fine flavour. Others on here might have another suggestion for a cheaper option.

[Johnniem]

J8 SVG said:

I don't want to be too negative but googling, it looks like a re-branded istick with their own tank on it? If so, changing your tank would be the first thing I'd recommend. The mod (battery) should be fine but if you're getting no flavour, it's the coils and tank that will be at fault.

I'd recommend trying something like a Kanger toptank with 0.5ohm NC80 coils (non temp control but they have nickel coils for TC if you prefer), I've found them to be the most reliable starter tanks with fine flavour. Others on here might have another suggestion for a cheaper option.

Thanks J8 SVG. I will do a little more research to see what the Kanger is like. Surely the tank is just the thing that holds the vape fluid and all the action and processing goes on at the coil? An analogy for me would be that the tank on a car or bike holds the petrol but doesn't provide the power. Or am I misunderstanding what a tank is when related to vaping?

See how much I dont know!

[J8 SVG]

Johnniem said:

Thanks J8 SVG. I will do a little more research to see what the Kanger is like. Surely the tank is just the thing that holds the vape fluid and all the action and processing goes on at the coil? An analogy for me would be that the tank on a car or bike holds the petrol but doesn't provide the power. Or am I misunderstanding what a tank is when related to vaping?

See how much I dont know!

The coil is just metal that heats up, the size/shape/orientation/airflow/wicking material of that will dictate the taste/vapour production. All the battery does is send power to that (With temp control it can sense the resistance change which occurs when a coil heats up and restrict the power once the temp has been reached but I've never used temp control so this isn't totally necessary for a great vape)

There may be a better coil that fits in your tank that will provide a better vape but doing some googling, I'm not sure that exists. so you will need another tank with different coil option.

Another tank with great coils is the Triton mini but there are lots of coils available for it so you may have to try a few different ones before finding your favourite

Stick with it - once you've found your ideal vape it's so so worth it

[Rawwr]

Johnniem said:

Thanks J8 SVG. I will do a little more research to see what the Kanger is like. Surely the tank is just the thing that holds the vape fluid and all the action and processing goes on at the coil? An analogy for me would be that the tank on a car or bike holds the petrol but doesn't provide the power. Or am I misunderstanding what a tank is when related to vaping?

See how much I dont know!

Pretty much but the tank is also responsible for the airflow through the coil. Lots of airflow through decent coils = lots of flavour and lots of vapour. The Kanger coils are some of the most reliable and consistent out there.