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Mrs OwenK
543 posts
30 months
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I would first of all say, speak to your son, don't ask him to make the decision but get his opinion. I grew up with a parent with mental issues and I know how hard it is to listen to crap about both parents from other people. I would have done anything to be 400 miles away. My parent never got better and has been dead 2 years now. So focus on the present with your son and not the future.
Best of luck
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schmalex
8,658 posts
75 months
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All the best chap.
I'd do the research into hospitals etc and take the job in order to distance both you & your lad from the source of the unhappiness. Talk it through with him so that you two can approach the relocation as a team. Whilst you don't have a direct family support network there now, it won't take more than 6 months or so to start to create one with his school friends' parents.
Scotland is a beautiful country with significantly better facilities than England.
I look forward to reading your post in a couple of months time, raving about your and your son's new life!
Alex
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WorAl
10,877 posts
57 months
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If I were you, I'd be sitting the boy down and having this discussion with him. Explain all the negatives - losing friends, family, school etc, but explain the benefits, you two can start a new life together, you'll be happier and he'll easily make new friends.
Get him to think about it for a while, don't make rash decisions, then let him decide. It might be hard for your to live there, but you have to look after your boys life first and foremost.
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Carthage
2,964 posts
13 months
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I'm aware that we only have one side of the story here, and it may be that your wife won't allow it, but I'd suggest you try to build bridges with her (without jeopardising your position).
Your son may be smarting that she's taken his TV or whatever, but in the future he may just need her one day so if you can, keep the doors to a relationship with his mum open for him. Two parents are nearly always better than one, if possible.
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bucksmanuk
515 posts
39 months
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Tim-D said: - things are seen as black & white. Is that such a bad thing?
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Tim-D
Original Poster
227 posts
91 months
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Carthage said: I'm aware that we only have one side of the story here, and it may be that your wife won't allow it, but I'd suggest you try to build bridges with her (without jeopardising your position).
Your son may be smarting that she's taken his TV or whatever, but in the future he may just need her one day so if you can, keep the doors to a relationship with his mum open for him. Two parents are nearly always better than one, if possible. Exactly it - yes fair comment only my side of the story, my wife unfortunately won't have any option to allow. The TV is a big thing to a young man but trivia to more mature minds. My overriding concern is to keep the door open for her - and him. But if we go, I'm in equal measure glad that we'll be far away and concerned it'll be too far to maintain / re-establish a meaningful relationship - as previosusly said and I' wholly subscribe to - kids need both parents -but I'm wondering!
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Carthage
2,964 posts
13 months
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Tim-D said: Exactly it - yes fair comment only my side of the story, my wife unfortunately won't have any option to allow. The TV is a big thing to a young man but trivia to more mature minds. My overriding concern is to keep the door open for her - and him. But if we go, I'm in equal measure glad that we'll be far away and concerned it'll be too far to maintain / re-establish a meaningful relationship - as previosusly said and I' wholly subscribe to - kids need both parents -but I'm wondering! The distance may actually help to formalise/control the relationship. If you can set it up so they have regular contact by phone/online with periodic arranged visits, then it may make for stability, and at the same time be easier for her and you to manage? Good luck, anyway. I hope all three of you find peaceful lives.
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Huff
1,128 posts
60 months
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Wow. That's heartbreaking.
FWIW and not withstanding the supportive comments above and the concerns you have expressed:
Out of the blue you are offered an alternative you really don't appear to have seriously considered until now (putting all else first, which is a very great credit to you in the circs. frankly)
Take it, it can do no greater harm. Your overriding concern on medical issues might yield to a little advance research and perhaps planning more than anything else. For everything else, those close to you both will understand and support anyway, all ways, I am sure. If the move really, really, really doesn't work you can always move again, back - or onward.
Here's to better times for you all.
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Hammer67
2,630 posts
53 months
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OP, some sound advice here. I have nothing to add except my best wishes for you and your boy.
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loafer123
2,694 posts
84 months
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WorAl said: If I were you, I'd be sitting the boy down and having this discussion with him. Explain all the negatives - losing friends, family, school etc, but explain the benefits, you two can start a new life together, you'll be happier and he'll easily make new friends.
Get him to think about it for a while, don't make rash decisions, then let him decide. It might be hard for your to live there, but you have to look after your boys life first and foremost. I completely agree with this. Any 13yr old lad who has been through all he has should be more than capable of having this sort of conversation. Trust him and have a man to man talk. Mind you, if you do move to Scotland, don't forget to take fruit with you.
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Tim-D
Original Poster
227 posts
91 months
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Thank you ladies & gents some sound opinions out there this evening giving me much reassurance - how the hell am I decisive at work but a gibbering wreck when it comes to this? Formative plan is to do some web research, take a day off next week and jump on a flight there and back to do some initial scoping out guage the lie of the land as it were and meet with potential new / old boss. Then if all's good discuss with Jnr the options and go from there - my worries remain but there's a start. frankly what I was planning but in my reduced state needed some wise heads to tell me!
A coffee has just materialised next to me - well trained my boy....... oh it seems Nintendo mag is out - ulterior motive!
Cheers all
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Tim-D
Original Poster
227 posts
91 months
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loafer123 said: Mind you, if you do move to Scotland, don't forget to take fruit with you. Just noted this! gave me a chuckle - ta ;-)
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McHaggis
7,637 posts
24 months
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Yikes.
Personally I'd go for fresh start and centre a lot of the decisions around your son in choosing house, neighbourhood, schools, etc. spare room for his friends to visit, etc- he'll probably benefit in the long run and it's low risk. Schools and hospitals, etc are good.
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Papa Hotel
9,432 posts
51 months
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Tim-D said: Just noted this! gave me a chuckle - ta ;-) Don't worry about fruit, a deep fried Hawaiian pizza probably has some vitamin C still in it. You think I'm making it up. Don't you?
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Tim-D
Original Poster
227 posts
91 months
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Nope I know your'e not making it up! A fair few moons ago I had the scotch pie experience - bit straight in , lip & chin promptly seared by an undending tide of thermonuclear grease, once the pain subsided I survey a now seemingly empty pie case with an odd grey sludge in the bottom - lost my appetite somewhat...
Flight now booked for next week - bit presumptuous as I've yet to get hte day off - good bless Stelios (never thought I'd say that) scheduled timings spot on for a decent mooch the odd meet, purchase a nice bottle of Glenturret and scoot back to put Jnr to bed - got to love living really close to the airport!
Airport other end dead handy for city too - just out of curiosity any idea what Musselburgh is like?
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Reardy Mister
11,039 posts
91 months
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In the immortal words of Murray Walker....
GO!! GO!! GO!!
Youre an adult. Look at the trauma she has already inflicted on you. And you want your son to hang around for the same treatment?
Get gone. Your priority is undoubtedly the long term welfare of your son. That is clearly with you being happy, prosperous and as far away from his clearly (however unfortunate it may be) mental Mum. Despite what people say, you CAN run away from problems and sometimes its a bloody good idea.
BTW, thanks for adding persepctive to my own embarrassingly *miniscule* dramas.
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Papa Hotel
9,432 posts
51 months
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Solitude
1,324 posts
44 months
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0a
8,430 posts
63 months
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OP said: My boy pushing me to launch divorce proceedings for finality and break,(I’m dithering, his mother wasn’t always what she now appears to be ). You have two decisions to make. One regarding the above (from my family experience given what has gone on you don't wan her in your life any more). The other is about moving and getting the job and fresh start, but losing the family network, friends and local care. Make two positive decisions. You have my sympathy for what went on - I wish you the very best.
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Superficial
743 posts
43 months
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First of all, you're a better man than many. The way you talk of your wife, despite her illness and all she has and is putting you through, is refreshing and honourable. Just as you never guessed things would deteriorate to the point where they are, they could equally change for the better in the future r.e. your sons and your own relationship with your wife.
Personally, after all the crap you've been through where you are now I think a fresh start in a fresh place would be a good thing for you and your lad. My family and I have had a pretty trying past few years and have just recently had an offer accepted on a beautiful house over 3 hours away from anyone we know. Of course, there's anxiety involved but the fresh start is so exciting and I truly think we'll put down good friendships with locals, as long as we try. You really do get out what you put in. Definitely get your sons opinion, he sounds mature for his age, and if he really wants to go for it that may be all the advice you need.
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