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escargot

15,943 posts

86 months

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Chilli said:
Become really matey with him. Give him a tickle, give him treats, take him out for walks. Become his best mate, and let him snuggle up with you in bed.......
... and then bum it to within an inch of its life.

Podie

38,392 posts

144 months

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Watching QI on Dave... where they've just come out with the fact that it's dangerous to sleep with animals...

antspants

775 posts

44 months

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Shay HTFC said:
King Herald said:
Take the dog walking until it does that godawful disgusting doggie thing of jumping up and rolling in another dogs crap
In 12 years my dog has never done that. Are you sure yours isn't slightly retarded? hehe
Mine does this but apparently it's in fox poo, whatever it is it fecking stinks!!

dmulally

2,773 posts

49 months

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Shinobi said:
So the dog was there first? You came along, decided you didn't like her Dog so you kick it.

Wow what a C**k
My fault, I have been a member here long enough to know that I have to use words more wisely. Wrong choice of words "kicking". I love the dog, the situation blows though. I GENTLY push him away. If you can see how I do it I promise you would not shout abuse.
I was about to get all ragey and +1 shinobi but thanks for clearing that up. LOL'ing after writing that you push it is silly.

I can see by the tone in your post that you blame her and not the dog which is fair enough. I foster rescue dogs and love my dog more than any human, but having them in the bed is just dirty. I don't know much about little dogs but pretty sure like most of them they shed hair.

Like most problems in a relationship the best way to handle it is with good communication based on a considered approach. Have you got the balls to leave if she says no? If not, then don't waste your time by even bringing it up.

If it is a deal breaker then go about it in a nice way. Such as a caveman tech version of this silly thing.



The dog will hate it and it will get thrown out but it will be the thought that counts and if she throws her toys out of the cot then time to think long term.

Good luck.

Blue Oval84

1,749 posts

30 months

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Don't forget what happens after you try to talk to her again! smile
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Mobile Chicane

14,021 posts

81 months

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I would not allow a dog in the bedroom, never mind on (or in) my bed.

I like dogs, but they belong snoring under the table / in front of the fire to dream of doggy things, not in bed.

WinkleHoff

159 posts

104 months

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I have some experience of this, albeit with cats.

Ex had two cats. They lived in the house. To be fair, they were there when I moved in, and I am really not a cat person, although tried to keep an open mind. Here is what happened;

- They continually clambered all over us, sticking their a-holes in my face whilst watching TV, eating etc.

- Clawing your clothes.

- Covering everything in hair.

- Climbing all over the kitchen work surfaces when they think you are not around (after sniffing their own, and others, s***e)

- Dragging small animals in the middle of the night. I remember chasing a small frog around the lounge with a flower pot, after it had been screaming from cat torture. Ever heard a frog screaming at 3am? It is harrowing.

- Once they dragged in a half eaten herring, hid it at the bottom of the stairs, only for me to tread on it on a Sunday morning.

- Finally, and most irritatingly, scratching at the bedroom door, and opening it, whilst in the middle of some "quality time".

She thought all this was normal and acceptable. I didn't. Impasse. I leave (although there were other issues too to be fair).

Animals should be outside. Anything else is just nuts in my opinion.

By the way, I like animals, I just think its weird in a relationship when the animals/pets are not put in to context against human relationships.

However, with the dog scenario of the OP, life is about compromise. He's not asking for the dog to leave, just for some changes. I don't see why thats a problem, and if it is, I'd be asking questions...

EDLT

14,580 posts

75 months

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I've only read the first page because everyone started getting British about kicking a dog...

Anyway, your OH sounds mental, get rid.

Butter Face

5,713 posts

29 months

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TLDR

Has it been clarified that the dog was there FIRST?

So you've been sharing the bed with the dog all this time and now raising the issue?

If you have a serious issue you should have raised it the first week IMO.

You've made your (dog) bed, now lie in it (there's a good boy, who's a good boy? You are, yes you are)

King Herald

18,343 posts

85 months

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antspants said:
Shay HTFC said:
King Herald said:
Take the dog walking until it does that godawful disgusting doggie thing of jumping up and rolling in another dogs crap
In 12 years my dog has never done that. Are you sure yours isn't slightly retarded? hehe
Mine does this but apparently it's in fox poo, whatever it is it fecking stinks!!
That'll work too. biggrin

Mr Pies

5,646 posts

56 months

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Ok basically she's cheating on you. You must rid yourself of her now.

Superficial

745 posts

43 months

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This is why animal people and non-animal people shouldn't be together.

If someone ever posed the 'its me or the dog' question to me I'd tell them where to go. Remember, her dog was there before you and will still be there when (if?) you go. smile

My dogs usually sleep outside, but temporarily they've been kept indoors at night lately and occasionally I'll allow one of them upstairs to my room. They are allowed to sleep on the floor or at the foot of the bed. I've compromised for an ex in the past and relegated the dogs either to the floor or out the room completely. The key word is compromise; he wanted something, I wanted something else, we met in the middle. Try to remember that as hard as it is for you to understand, clearly your OH does enjoy having her dog in bed with her. It might not be to your taste, but out of respect for your OH you owe it to her to be open minded to that.

If the dog was a rescue, then chances are he had a bad past. Don't resent him for building up such a strong bond with your OH. You have your job, your friends, your family, he has only her. Animals with a troubled past often have a certain wisdom about them and love their owners even more than normal once they find someone they can trust. I'm not surprised he follows your OH everywhere, this is typical needy behaviour of an animal who has had an unpleasant past. He was dumped by his last owners, how is he supposed to know your OH isn't going to dump him? But it can be overcome, you can slowly build up the time he is alone until eventually he can be left happily by himself for a few hours. You can even buy toys that will keep him stimulated and busy while he's alone. If you can win the dog over then training him will be 100% easier, especially when it sounds as though your OH doesn't have the inclination to change things. Please stop using your foot to push/ kick him along, even if you insist it isn't done in a cruel way that type of contact doesn't mean anything positive to a dog and will only increase his mistrust of you.

Lastly, to those who have said having a dog in bed is filthy, how many of you shower before hitting the sack after being on the tube, bus, a night out? I dread to think of how much muck, germs and grime you end up covered with after a normal day but suffice to say many, many of the everyday objects you touch have been found to have human faecal matter on them. I know what I'd rather have on my bed wink

Hope you manage to find a resolve.

Pig Skill

1,368 posts

72 months

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GroundEffect said:
Oi, stop kicking the dog you fk. It's done nothing wrong.

My dog sleeps where-ever he wants. Normally that means kitchen whilst the house is still warm and by the morning when it's got cooler he'll come and sleep at the end of my bed.
Sounds like you should be with the OP's OH.

We have a dog, great little thing etc, BUT it's a dog, an animal and in my book is further down the rope to a human.

Next time you wake up and see little doggy fast asleep at the end of your bed just remember that the little has been licking his balls, sniffing and licking other dog balls and arses and probably chowing down on some unwanted cat st. Ever wondered where the term 'dog breath' comes from?

Dogs should have a basket where they sleep not have the rule of the house imho. In dog psychology terms allowing them to sleep where you sleep is allowing them to ascertain some authority over you.

They need to be loved and cared for etc but they should know their place too.

OP - man up and talk to the missus. How do you manage to have a sex life with the dog there?

Does she like it doggy style? hehe

Edited by Pig Skill on Friday 10th August 06:04

Alfanatic

5,990 posts

88 months

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The dog will be around for many years to come. When it ides its replacement will do the same thing. It isn't going to get better if she won't compromise and is getting upset with you for not being happy about something. Suck it up for the duration of the relationship or leave.

Urban Sports

7,458 posts

72 months

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Poison it immediately.

UncleRic

906 posts

37 months

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WinkleHoff said:
I have some experience of this, albeit with cats.

Ex had two cats. Here is what happened;

- Cats are the Devil incarnate
Cats. Selfish little bds. mad

Op, the dog was there before you, the girlfriend obviously loves it and it's therefore a 'part of her' you're going to have to learn to accept. If you can't do that (quirks, animals and all), sadly you'll have to move on and let her find someone who will.

rb5er

4,559 posts

41 months

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Chilli said:
Secondly, read the OP's post again. He never mentioned that he had a specific issue with the dog being on the bed, more that he had a problem trying to get close to his mrs. You can put it in capitals, bold, italic, whatever....but you're still wrong, and you know it! Be a man, admit it.
Well lets ask the OP. I took is as (like most normal people) he does not want a dog in his bed whether it is stopping him getting close to his Mrs or not. I will happily admit I am wrong when the OP tells me that I have got the wrong end of the stick, otherwise I hope you are man enough to admit that you are wrong. laugh

So OP are you happy to have the dog in your bed if it lets you still get close to your Mrs or are you like me pretty disgusted at the dog in bed situation in general?

Marcellus

4,586 posts

88 months

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I empathise with the OP, cuddling up with your OH and finding a dog there can be most annoying.

However, it can learn; I say thsi as We, my wife and I, have a dog and it used to be very good at sleeping in its' own bed. But then we moved house several times in short succession and stayed in several hotels and it just wouldn't/couldn't settle in its' bed so got in th ehabit of curling up on (but never in) the bottom of our bed.

It never comes on my side as it always gets kicked off, as much as you can kick something on the duvet from under the duvet, but it soon learned not to go near my side. Also when I "move in for a cuddle" one word from either of us gets it off the bed pdq.... the word is "OFF"..... perhaps it would work with the OPs other half....

markcjd

623 posts

56 months

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I have had dogs for most of my life. Growing up in the sticks dogs were working animals that lived in the stable buildings and never allowed beyond the utility room.

Our mutt is a pet and his territory extends from the utility room to the lounge and nowhere else. He has his own bed, is welcome in front of the fire in the evening but knows fully the consequence of wandering into bedrooms/kitchen/dining room etc.

I could never share a bed with a dog, even with the advantage of loving our mutt, as I know what he rolls in, licks and eats. Milo is an English Springer and is therefore bred to be mildly stupid at best. Cat st is his preferred appetiser/deodorant but if this is not available a good root through the bin will suffice.

Dog's live on floors, nowhere else.

Sowler

110 posts

18 months

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The amount of people here that think having the dog in/on the bed is ok is worrying!

If you live on your own and want to share your bed with the dog that's your choice. If you have a partner you need to be more considerate IMO. Imagine if a new partner came round to stay for the first time and finds themselves sharing the bed with the dog as well. Hardly appealing is it! I'd be thinking twice.

My cat used sleep at the end of the bed, met my OH and the cat was soon shut out of the bedroom. I don't have a problem with pets being inside however dogs should stay down stairs and off ALL furniture, also people that let their cats roam about on the kitchen work surfaces is a bit wrong as well!
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