Jesus , who knows what Picasso owners do with their dicks.

Our hands do, not our whole bodies. I wear clothes, shoes, trousers, shirts etc, that stop my body getting covered in germs and muck. I wash my hands several times a day, but dogs clean theirs by licking them!

And they have fur, that pics up dust and dirt and stuff, that we leave on our clothes when we get into bed, even if we don't shower.

How can you possibly try to equate humans to dogs in the dirtiness stakes???? It is a total non-stater.

Not possible

Like I said, my dogs usually sleep outside, I just can't believe the hysteria the idea of a dog in a bed has caused. Pistonheads - being a sissy matters.


Clothes are pretty irrelevant, it's not like once people touch a contaminated surface they walk around with their hands in a statue like pose to make sure they don't touch themselves or anything else. We don't get ill from having germs and muck on our bodies and skin, we get ill when germs enter our bodies through open wounds or silly things like people putting their contaminated finger in their mouth. Skin alone is a good enough barrier for germs, whether they are germs from touching a door handle at the pub that has Barry and Jack's faecal remnants on it or a dog.

Glad to hear you practice good hygiene (not being sarcastic!), just bare in mind that 6.6 million people in the UK don't wash their hands after going to the toilet, and 69% don't wash their hands before eating. When I think of germs that is what worries me, not the idea of occasionally having a dog on the bed.

Maybe going a little off topic here but when you look at it from a non-sexual point of view what we as humans get up to between the sheets as foreplay is pretty disgusting. A dog licking itself clean is about on the same level, and it's not like the dog then licks the bedsheets from top to bottom.

OP - you're partially in the right. I would not want a dog in the bed. However, you've ignored the situation until now so this makes things tricky. The question is where is this going long term? Because once you try for kids and have one the ONLY prioity is the health of the foetus / baby once born. I do not see cuddling a dog as compatible with that - and I can't imagine you'd want YOUR child being prioritised behind a dog.

So, figure that one out and you have the answer. Split if required. If you can't reconcile this one you need to move on and find somebody else.

Wow, I haven't been on the board here since my last post, I'm surprised how many pages my topic has gone. I haven't read all the replies.

Yes she is out of the bathroom now lol

I think someone here hit the nail on the head when they suggested she has an overtly emotional attachment to the dog and looks at it as a child. Before meeting me she had been on the tail end of an exhausting divorce and was very lonely, the dog she says was her only friend.

We had another discussion about the situation and it looks like she is being a lot more understanding now.

On a side note, I don't even like getting in bed without taking a shower. There are 2 opinions on the matter of getting into bed dirty;

Camp 1: suggests it is unhygenic to get into bed at night without showering first, as you will bring all the dirt that has accumulated on you throughout the day in bed with you. Makes sense. Sweating and all that.

Camp 2: suggests not showering in the morning is just as nasty because you sweat during the night and wake up feeling stale.

I'm in camp 3, I take a shower at night and in the morning. I just don't feel right climbing into bed after a long day. I feel so dirty.

I don't even lay on the top of my bed with my day clothes on. Simply being because think of what you sat on and put your back against through out the day.

A few people I've witnessed lay on their bed with their shoes on!

So do you still think he wants the dog in his bed or are you ready to man up to the fact that you were wrong?

Both actually. The dog is in the covers with us. Near pillows. I tell her time and time again it walks on grass and the such outside. It walks through bushes etc. She argues "I put the flea/tick" gel on him... Cue me explaining to her that such is not the point, and flea and tick killer don't prevent nor get rid of dirt etc.

Had a long chat with her again tonight, and believe it or nosh she seems quite resceptive

Especaily if he answers to the name of Ron Jeremy.

Having lived in Asia for most of the last 20 years, where people shower several times a day, I find it disgusting and nauseating that folk in the western world will go out for the evening, drink, eat, piss, fart, crap, all night long, then head home and bump nastys with the opposite sex (and much more) without so much as a proper shower or even a quick wash!

I did it for years when I lived in England, but can't imagine how I overcame the odour and suchforth. Copious amounts of ale probably helped, and not knowing any different....