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Calza said:
What's that? I like!
http://www.geox.com/en/men/shoes/boots/mattias-abx...Got them after seeing gizlaroc's post about the grey ones a couple of pages back
zeDuffMan said:
jammy-git said:
How did you find the sizing zeDuffMan?
They're marginally on the large size lengthwise but width is spot on (I have wide feet, so I guess overall on a 'normal' foot it would come up too big). I am usually a size 10. They were far too big for me with a 9 being perfect.
InductionRoar said:
No doubt that is correct though consider Dainite has been available in its current form for over 100 years and yet is very seldom seen on vintage shoes or boots.
That's because Dainite was historically not as popular as today.InductionRoar said:
I doubt many Dainite owners subject their shoes to conditions where leather would fail or even give any cause for concern that would be overcome by the rubber alternative.
I have more leather soled shoes than Dainite, but I need to be far more careful with the former. Leather soles in the city have always been quite perilous when it's wet and if there's salt about leather soled shoes can get trashed as salty water leaves stains on the uppers when it soaks through the soles.InductionRoar said:
Dainite undoubtedly should offer more practicality though this is at the expense of aesthetics and tradition though the merits of both are down to individual preference.
joshcowin said:
arsenalmorris said:
Levin said:
arsenalmorris said:
I own a few pair of Spezial's my fav being the Apple green ones that was only release to the German market, I always find they very comfy although I normally go half size down when getting these as i find them abit roomy
I'm still kicking myself that I didn't get the purple / yellow Spezials when they were available. I always kept putting it off until they were gone everywhere. Must be at least a year now since they were a general release and I'm not keen on paying the resale price for a pair on the back of them using an historic colourway (was it a Malmo variation or something?)What sIze foot are you??
Here are mine:
I will not be paying the re-sale prices either (as I cannot afford to), so I will be buying mine on release dates.
Arsenlamorris whats the best sites to look out for? I see size have a good amount of adidas available, do you have any websites/blogs that keep you updated.
Also any pics of your entire collection?
Not really got any photo's of the full collection as they are scattered around to make space but not got as many as people seem to think lol,
Quiet Sunday night so here goes... 
That is undoubtedly the reason - though there must be a reason for its unpopularity and its recent resurgence.
I suspect the reason it was unpopular at the time is because tradition dictates that only leather is used in fine shoemaking and new-fangled advances would have no doubt been frowned upon by the people commissioning (and more to the point making) them at the time. Dainite soles even today, provide a less than elegant solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist. I wear leather soled shoes for work and social events but use some cheap sports direct specials for walking long distances (i.e. to work). To expect dress shoes to act as hiking boots or wellingtons is like expecting to be able take a supercar off-road IMO.
My thinking for Dainite enjoying a resurgence of popularity is the fact that it is perceived (wrongly or rightly) as being more accommodating for treacherous conditions and delaying the cost of re-soling. As anybody who has ever worn Dainite in snow or icy conditions will attest the inelegance of the sole profile will soon be upstaged by the wearer falling on their arse.
I agree leather isn't ideal though neither is it the delicate material it is often stated as being. I'm sure a lot of people already know the story of the Russian leather salvaged from the Metta Catharina (for those that don't here is a link http://therake.com/style/footwear/skin-deep/). Over 200 years submerged in sea water (although preserved in sludge) and the leather is still pliable and maliable enough to make shoes and leather goods at a considerable premium over "normal" calf.
I think it is actually the drying out of leather which causes issues - infinitely exacerbated by people drying them too quickly/severely.
Weather severe enough to soak through leather soles and penetrate the uppers would be enough to convince me to forego any dress shoes (Dainite soles or otherwise) and favour the aforementioned sports direct specials.
My only Dainite soled boots also feature a storm welt so are very much intended for less than ideal conditions though I wouldn't subject them to monsoon or blizzard conditions for a number of reasons.
No they are not. Though I don't know why Dainite soles are much more chunky than their leather counterpart as the actual rubber is not that much thicker than the leather which it replaces.
You rarely find makers who bevel or narrow rubber soles at the waist whereas it is quite commonplace with leather soles (i.e. double leather to single) which makes the shoe's silhouette so much more streamlined and finished.
13m said:
InductionRoar said:
No doubt that is correct though consider Dainite has been available in its current form for over 100 years and yet is very seldom seen on vintage shoes or boots.
That's because Dainite was historically not as popular as today. I suspect the reason it was unpopular at the time is because tradition dictates that only leather is used in fine shoemaking and new-fangled advances would have no doubt been frowned upon by the people commissioning (and more to the point making) them at the time. Dainite soles even today, provide a less than elegant solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist. I wear leather soled shoes for work and social events but use some cheap sports direct specials for walking long distances (i.e. to work). To expect dress shoes to act as hiking boots or wellingtons is like expecting to be able take a supercar off-road IMO.
My thinking for Dainite enjoying a resurgence of popularity is the fact that it is perceived (wrongly or rightly) as being more accommodating for treacherous conditions and delaying the cost of re-soling. As anybody who has ever worn Dainite in snow or icy conditions will attest the inelegance of the sole profile will soon be upstaged by the wearer falling on their arse.
13m said:
InductionRoar said:
I doubt many Dainite owners subject their shoes to conditions where leather would fail or even give any cause for concern that would be overcome by the rubber alternative.
I have more leather soled shoes than Dainite, but I need to be far more careful with the former. Leather soles in the city have always been quite perilous when it's wet and if there's salt about leather soled shoes can get trashed as salty water leaves stains on the uppers when it soaks through the soles. I think it is actually the drying out of leather which causes issues - infinitely exacerbated by people drying them too quickly/severely.
Weather severe enough to soak through leather soles and penetrate the uppers would be enough to convince me to forego any dress shoes (Dainite soles or otherwise) and favour the aforementioned sports direct specials.
My only Dainite soled boots also feature a storm welt so are very much intended for less than ideal conditions though I wouldn't subject them to monsoon or blizzard conditions for a number of reasons.
13m said:
InductionRoar said:
Dainite undoubtedly should offer more practicality though this is at the expense of aesthetics and tradition though the merits of both are down to individual preference.
Dainite does give the shoe a more chunky look. But many British designs aren't the last word in fineness, are they.You rarely find makers who bevel or narrow rubber soles at the waist whereas it is quite commonplace with leather soles (i.e. double leather to single) which makes the shoe's silhouette so much more streamlined and finished.
arsenalmorris said:
Nice, Was these off a website as I have a mate after a pair but all seem to be sold out now, although he is after a size 11 which i guess reduces his chances now.
Got these from getthelabel.com, happened to be on FB when a link on one of the adidas groups popped up saying they had a restock. CharlesdeGaulle said:
Induction Roar. I'm not going to take issue with all you've said, indeed I agree with much, but you must have been looking at different dainite soles to me if you think they're in any significant way more obvious or less stylish than leather.
I don't disagree with Steven with regard to Dainite.But I think having a slightly thicker sole looks more stylish than having dark stains on one's uppers, trench foot or a recumnent position on the pavement.
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Induction Roar. I'm not going to take issue with all you've said, indeed I agree with much, but you must have been looking at different dainite soles to me if you think they're in any significant way more obvious or less stylish than leather.
Here is a comparison of the different soles offered by an English RTW maker.
Here is a wholecut on Dainite. Notice how the edge of the sole is the same thickness all along the length of the shoe and the heel stack is stuck on top of the Dainite.
Here is the same model on single leather soles. Notice here how the sole edge is bevelled at the waist. The nerds (such as myself
) will also notice how the heel stack is completely separate to the sole. Setting in of a separate heel stack is a much more laborious job which adds a certain sleekness (even sleeker models feature a pronounced notch here) which I have never seen replicated on Dainite. Also, the edge of the leather sole is finished with a heated tool and wax to seal the fibres in which creates a distinct ridge at the top and bottom of the sole edge. This again makes the overall finish more aesthetically pleasing by making the edge three dimensional and thus appearing slimmer.
The sole type does depend on how you intend to use the shoe. Not everyone has a short commute to a set office where you can change into a different pair of shoes. (Think, international business traveler for example)
I tend to favour double Dainite soles for "general" wear but I have several leather soled pairs mainly for summer dry use.
Church's do a Diamond Rubber sole which looks a little closer to leather soles IMO. They have a thin layer of leather above the rubber sole but with less bulk than an double Dainite
Church's Diamond rubber:
I tend to favour double Dainite soles for "general" wear but I have several leather soled pairs mainly for summer dry use.
Church's do a Diamond Rubber sole which looks a little closer to leather soles IMO. They have a thin layer of leather above the rubber sole but with less bulk than an double Dainite
Church's Diamond rubber:
InductionRoar said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
... but you must have been looking at different dainite soles to me if you think they're in any significant way more obvious or less stylish than leather.
... adds a certain sleekness (even sleeker models feature a pronounced notch here) which I have never seen replicated on Dainite. ... by making the edge three dimensional and thus appearing slimmer.
There's a place for both in any wardrobe of course, but I'd argue that anyone that claims dainite offers nothing positive over leather is misguided.
hacksaw said:
arsenalmorris said:
Nice, Was these off a website as I have a mate after a pair but all seem to be sold out now, although he is after a size 11 which i guess reduces his chances now.
Got these from getthelabel.com, happened to be on FB when a link on one of the adidas groups popped up saying they had a restock. FreeLitres said:
Church's do a Diamond Rubber sole which looks a little closer to leather soles IMO. They have a thin layer of leather above the rubber sole but with less bulk than an double Dainite
Church's Diamond rubber:
Not seen those before - they are indeed much slimmer.Church's Diamond rubber:
I notice how they have finished the edge of the sole at the waist of those too.
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