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AyBee

6,138 posts

86 months

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Jasandjules said:
TBH I'd more than likely go in wearing a suit until I saw what everyone else wore...
This, much easier to take off the jacket and leave suit trousers and shirt on (button undone) than it is to go in in jeans and desert boots (wtf?) and then find everyone else in suit trousers and a shirt...

wildcat45

3,650 posts

73 months

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You can't go wrong with a good suit and shirt.

Jacket off you are smart yet casual. Jacket on, a bit more serious. Keep a tie in your desk or briefcase/bag and in seconds you can be fit to go and meet the most important of people.

Its worked for me for years. The day I came in dressed like crap (On a weekend) was the day I was invited by the MD over the phone to a directors box sporting event. Cue a panic rush home to change. Had I been doing the suit thing, there would not have been a problem.

Running our own company now, and we tend to do the smart jeans, suit jacket nice shirt thing. Our company, our rules. Myself and my business partner do dress down Fridays pretty well. Unshaven, old rugby shirts, old jeans, knock off at 3 and off to the pub. We both know, one day this will bite us on the bum!


Oakey

16,269 posts

100 months

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No sports casual?

Hackney

2,987 posts

92 months

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"Business casual" two words that make my heart sink.

I own suits, shoes, shirts and ties for work.
I own jeans, t-shirts and trainers etc for not work.

So, thanks to some stupid "relaxed" dress code, I have to buy some third set of clothes.
Possibly worse still is the "casual Friday" after suit / shirt for the rest of the week which means buying this crap for one day per week.

Brilliant.

Disastrous

4,874 posts

101 months

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Do the people saying wtf at desert boots know what they actually are? You know we're not talking about enormous military boos here, right? I think they're fine.
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Pints

15,946 posts

78 months

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timbo999 said:
Where I am now its suit without jacket (Gov Ministry), where I was before (Well IT consultancy) it was suit without jacket or tie (so suit like trousers and a proper shirt).

What's the organisation?

Suggestion is you go with first of these above on your first day and see what everyone else wears.
Good suggestion.

My first day would always be suit, with a tie ready in the pocket.
Looking back at my first day photo (security pass), this is what I wore. Now I'll get away with jeans and a polo shirt.

RichB

29,983 posts

168 months

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Disastrous said:
Do the people saying wtf at desert boots know what they actually are? You know we're not talking about enormous military boos here, right? I think they're fine.
I think you can safely assuem we all know what a suede desert boot looks like rolleyes

AyBee

6,138 posts

86 months

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Disastrous said:
Do the people saying wtf at desert boots know what they actually are? You know we're not talking about enormous military boos here, right? I think they're fine.
yes We're not r-tards, we all know they're suede boots, I still don't think they're appropriate work wear though, they'd do for dress-down though.

killsta

1,251 posts

112 months

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My business casual is smart trousers, shirt, no tie and shoes.

AyBee

6,138 posts

86 months

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killsta said:
My business casual is smart trousers, shirt, no tie and shoes.
This is my take on business casual, however, I'd rather be safe than look like an idiot on the first day, nobody will comment if you wear smart shoes while they're all wearing desert boots, they will if you wear desert boots and everyone else is wearing smart shoes...

Disastrous

4,874 posts

101 months

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RichB said:
Disastrous said:
Do the people saying wtf at desert boots know what they actually are? You know we're not talking about enormous military boos here, right? I think they're fine.
I think you can safely assuem we all know what a suede desert boot looks like rolleyes
You know this is PH, not The Sartorialst, yes? Based on previous 'style' threads, I wouldn't assume anything at all. So go and roll your eyes elsewhere.

Disastrous

4,874 posts

101 months

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AyBee said:
Disastrous said:
Do the people saying wtf at desert boots know what they actually are? You know we're not talking about enormous military boos here, right? I think they're fine.
yes We're not r-tards, we all know they're suede boots, I still don't think they're appropriate work wear though, they'd do for dress-down though.
Agreed; they're nowhere near formal but I'd argue they're pretty versatile In terms of dressing up or down...you wouldn't wear them with a suit but depending on how casual the smart/casual is, then I think they'd be ok.

I enjoyed the posters who have basically said smart/casual is the same suit you wear for 'smart' but without a tie. Rock and roll. hehe

aka_kerrly

7,257 posts

94 months

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What is all this talk of desert boots.......

Google says:



I say: Only Peter Pan would be seen on those, I certainly wouldn't turn up for a first day or even a last day with those on!

AyBee

6,138 posts

86 months

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aka_kerrly said:
What is all this talk of desert boots.......

Google says:



I say: Only Peter Pan would be seen on those, I certainly wouldn't turn up for a first day or even a last day with those on!
That's them hehe

vixen1700

8,144 posts

154 months

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Don't forget that tweed will make a positive impression when you start. smile

schmalex

10,040 posts

90 months

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aka_kerrly said:
What is all this talk of desert boots.......

Google says:



I say: Only Peter Pan would be seen on those, I certainly wouldn't turn up for a first day or even a last day with those on!
Totally agree. They are, IMO, completely inappropriate for office wear at any time.

Pothole

20,235 posts

166 months

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I'm amazed that the ridiculously outdated concept of 'looking professional' in 'business dress' still exists. It's global stupidity on a grand scale.

Has this thieving taught us nothing about appearances being deceptive?


NinjaPower

3,197 posts

64 months

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Oakey said:
No sports casual?
I worked for an Australian bank for a few years and the dress code was none existent in the office.
"Aussie culture" apparently.

I went in on my first day (in a suit + tie) and was meeting the directors, when straight away one of them told me there was no need at all to dress how I was.

It would seem that sports casual was indeed the order of the day for most people.
In all honesty it took me ages to get used to. I always felt somehow really scruffy when walking into the office.

Got used to it after a while though smile

vixen1700

8,144 posts

154 months

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Oakey said:
No sports casual?


OP, you could wear a Pringle/Lyle & Scott with a Fila tracksuit if you took this option. smile

NinjaPower

3,197 posts

64 months

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Pothole said:
I'm amazed that the ridiculously outdated concept of 'looking professional' in 'business dress' still exists. It's global stupidity on a grand scale.

Has this thieving taught us nothing about appearances being deceptive?

This was the Mark Zuckerberg argument wasn't it? He caused cuff link wearers all over the world to spit their tea out when he attended a board meeting in a hoodie.

I don't honestly think dress is relevant for work, unless of course a uniform is required for, well, making everyone 'look uniform' for business branding reasons.

Why not just wear what you want?

I had better be careful what I say though because a poster took huge offence at casual dress and told me in another thread a while ago, that they wouldn't take me at all seriously at all 'in business' if I didn't attend a meeting in a suit, with cuff links and a 'nice watch'... rolleyes

They went on to say they would base their business dealing with me on what I wore.

Makes you wonder doesn't it...
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