Taking children to McDonalds, is it child cruelty?
Discussion
Cyder said:
Do you really think that most younger kids would prefer a nice two/three course meal to a McDonalds? Really?
Why does the only alternative to McDonald's have to be a 2 course meal in a restaurant? What's wrong with a nice bowl of hot chips and a sandwich (or burger, or pizza) in a cafe? Nice and informal, good atmosphere for the kids if you choose the right cafe. KevF said:
If you notice, this is Jamie Oliver targeting the US market. Despite the fact the structure of the business is the same, each national market is set up differently and run by those native to that market on the whole.
In the UK all beef is sourced locally with nothing added. The fact McDonald's were not implicated at all in the recent horsemeat scandal verifies this.
As for the nugget comments, Jamie is famous for his rants a few years ago about the rubbish put into the cheap nugget brands that can be bought. McDonald's UK have been using 100% chicken breast for many years now.
I guess you can give people the facts but if they choose to doubt or believe rumours, then there is nothing more can be done.
Arm wavers... They are everywhere. In the UK all beef is sourced locally with nothing added. The fact McDonald's were not implicated at all in the recent horsemeat scandal verifies this.
As for the nugget comments, Jamie is famous for his rants a few years ago about the rubbish put into the cheap nugget brands that can be bought. McDonald's UK have been using 100% chicken breast for many years now.
I guess you can give people the facts but if they choose to doubt or believe rumours, then there is nothing more can be done.
Sure is! I fancy a McDs Bacon Roll Meal now! 
A long time ago I was on a training course in Oxford with a large group of 25-45 year old professionals.
It was one of the groups birthday, and the company offered to expense a night out in a nice restaurant. Up to £100 a head including wine.
The lady who's birthday it was chose KFC, because it was much more of a birthday treat than going to a boring posh restaurant.
She was about 35 years old.
I find it scary that someone would prefer KFC over fine dining.
It was one of the groups birthday, and the company offered to expense a night out in a nice restaurant. Up to £100 a head including wine.
The lady who's birthday it was chose KFC, because it was much more of a birthday treat than going to a boring posh restaurant.
She was about 35 years old.
I find it scary that someone would prefer KFC over fine dining.
uncinqsix said:
Cyder said:
Do you really think that most younger kids would prefer a nice two/three course meal to a McDonalds? Really?
Why does the only alternative to McDonald's have to be a 2 course meal in a restaurant? What's wrong with a nice bowl of hot chips and a sandwich (or burger, or pizza) in a cafe? Nice and informal, good atmosphere for the kids if you choose the right cafe. Snowboy said:
Why is it a treat to sit on plastic chairs in a plastic room and quickly eat bland food with your fingers?
When did that become a treat?
Surely a 'treat' should be a trip to a cinema, a park, a Chucky Cheese with a big play area or even a 'nice' restaurant that does a decent two or three course meal.
When did that become a treat?
Surely a 'treat' should be a trip to a cinema, a park, a Chucky Cheese with a big play area or even a 'nice' restaurant that does a decent two or three course meal.
uncinqsix said:
Cyder said:
Do you really think that most younger kids would prefer a nice two/three course meal to a McDonalds? Really?
Why does the only alternative to McDonald's have to be a 2 course meal in a restaurant? What's wrong with a nice bowl of hot chips and a sandwich (or burger, or pizza) in a cafe? Nice and informal, good atmosphere for the kids if you choose the right cafe. 
WinstonWolf said:
uncinqsix said:
Cyder said:
Do you really think that most younger kids would prefer a nice two/three course meal to a McDonalds? Really?
Why does the only alternative to McDonald's have to be a 2 course meal in a restaurant? What's wrong with a nice bowl of hot chips and a sandwich (or burger, or pizza) in a cafe? Nice and informal, good atmosphere for the kids if you choose the right cafe. V8mate said:
WinstonWolf said:
uncinqsix said:
Cyder said:
Do you really think that most younger kids would prefer a nice two/three course meal to a McDonalds? Really?
Why does the only alternative to McDonald's have to be a 2 course meal in a restaurant? What's wrong with a nice bowl of hot chips and a sandwich (or burger, or pizza) in a cafe? Nice and informal, good atmosphere for the kids if you choose the right cafe. 
Snowboy said:
A long time ago I was on a training course in Oxford with a large group of 25-45 year old professionals.
It was one of the groups birthday, and the company offered to expense a night out in a nice restaurant. Up to £100 a head including wine.
The lady who's birthday it was chose KFC, because it was much more of a birthday treat than going to a boring posh restaurant.
She was about 35 years old.
I find it scary that someone would prefer KFC over fine dining.
Other people don't care about food as much as you do. They eat at places that serve something they like quickly for a small amount of money.It was one of the groups birthday, and the company offered to expense a night out in a nice restaurant. Up to £100 a head including wine.
The lady who's birthday it was chose KFC, because it was much more of a birthday treat than going to a boring posh restaurant.
She was about 35 years old.
I find it scary that someone would prefer KFC over fine dining.
Other people don't care about driving as much as I do. They drive their Dad's old Kia and think I'm mental wasting money on an Elise.
Other people care more about phones than I do, they point and laugh at my comedy 2004 phone.
None of these issues are even slightly important.
swerni said:
WinstonWolf said:
uncinqsix said:
Cyder said:
Do you really think that most younger kids would prefer a nice two/three course meal to a McDonalds? Really?
Why does the only alternative to McDonald's have to be a 2 course meal in a restaurant? What's wrong with a nice bowl of hot chips and a sandwich (or burger, or pizza) in a cafe? Nice and informal, good atmosphere for the kids if you choose the right cafe. Justin Cyder said:
Quite. These are the views from my local caff. I love a coffee in there when there's a storm brewing in the oggin.
This is one of the places we go to for a drink, some food. 
We don't go there all the time, every time however.
Our other 'local' is this place.
I don't see the problem with mixing it up at all. Going to these places, restaurants, pizza places, as well as the occasional fast food joint is not a problem at all.
It is certainly nothing to look down your nose at. Eat there every day, yup. Silly. Every couple of weeks, consider it a treat, like a massive toblerone.
TheHeretic said:
Or maybe she wanted a casual party, or the expense of £100 a head? Maybe having junk food is a great? Maybe going to a nice restaurant is the norm, so fancied a change? Did you bother to ask her, or was your contempt too much to speak?
My contempt was too much.Several people suggested alternatives, but she was adamant that she liked KFC.
The majority of us skipped the birthday party and spent money from our own pockets to go to a nice place.
The team manager went along with the lady and a few others and reported back.
The event lasted 20 minutes, they are some chicken and drank some fizzy pop.
The other group on the other hand spent several hours in a nice restaurant/pub and had a great time.
Imagine if you were given £100 a head to take 20 workmates out for an evening for dinner.
One option would be a kebab and a load of beer.
But, would you really take the group to a KFC or MCD for a celebration.
I eat junk food on occasion.
I enjoy the convenience and the salty greasiness of it.
But, it's a spontaneous impulse of lazyness and gluttony.
If I had time to plan and had a budget I can think of lots of better alternatives.
Snowboy said:
TheHeretic said:
Or maybe she wanted a casual party, or the expense of £100 a head? Maybe having junk food is a great? Maybe going to a nice restaurant is the norm, so fancied a change? Did you bother to ask her, or was your contempt too much to speak?
My contempt was too much.Several people suggested alternatives, but she was adamant that she liked KFC.
The majority of us skipped the birthday party and spent money from our own pockets to go to a nice place.
The team manager went along with the lady and a few others and reported back.
The event lasted 20 minutes, they are some chicken and drank some fizzy pop.
The other group on the other hand spent several hours in a nice restaurant/pub and had a great time.
Imagine if you were given £100 a head to take 20 workmates out for an evening for dinner.
One option would be a kebab and a load of beer.
But, would you really take the group to a KFC or MCD for a celebration.
I eat junk food on occasion.
I enjoy the convenience and the salty greasiness of it.
But, it's a spontaneous impulse of lazyness and gluttony.
If I had time to plan and had a budget I can think of lots of better alternatives.
Snowboy said:
My contempt was too much.
Several people suggested alternatives, but she was adamant that she liked KFC.
The majority of us skipped the birthday party and spent money from our own pockets to go to a nice place.
The team manager went along with the lady and a few others and reported back.
The event lasted 20 minutes, they are some chicken and drank some fizzy pop.
The other group on the other hand spent several hours in a nice restaurant/pub and had a great time.
Imagine if you were given £100 a head to take 20 workmates out for an evening for dinner.
One option would be a kebab and a load of beer.
But, would you really take the group to a KFC or MCD for a celebration.
I eat junk food on occasion.
I enjoy the convenience and the salty greasiness of it.
But, it's a spontaneous impulse of lazyness and gluttony.
If I had time to plan and had a budget I can think of lots of better alternatives.
It was her birthday, her choice. You were so contemptuous you and a bunch of other workmates skipped it entirely? Some workmates you must be. It was a one off. Your sheer snobbery, and self-righteousness marks you out to be quite self-obsessed.Several people suggested alternatives, but she was adamant that she liked KFC.
The majority of us skipped the birthday party and spent money from our own pockets to go to a nice place.
The team manager went along with the lady and a few others and reported back.
The event lasted 20 minutes, they are some chicken and drank some fizzy pop.
The other group on the other hand spent several hours in a nice restaurant/pub and had a great time.
Imagine if you were given £100 a head to take 20 workmates out for an evening for dinner.
One option would be a kebab and a load of beer.
But, would you really take the group to a KFC or MCD for a celebration.
I eat junk food on occasion.
I enjoy the convenience and the salty greasiness of it.
But, it's a spontaneous impulse of lazyness and gluttony.
If I had time to plan and had a budget I can think of lots of better alternatives.
Edited by TheHeretic on Wednesday 7th August 10:15
Justin Cyder said:
IroningMan said:
Pipe, slippers, incontinence pads and Werther's Originals beckon. Travel rug handy?
It's changed round here. These days we have fist shaking at young people on bikes & tut-tutting patrols at ladies showing a bit of ankle on the beach.TheHeretic said:
Snowboy said:
My contempt was too much.
Several people suggested alternatives, but she was adamant that she liked KFC.
The majority of us skipped the birthday party and spent money from our own pockets to go to a nice place.
The team manager went along with the lady and a few others and reported back.
The event lasted 20 minutes, they are some chicken and drank some fizzy pop.
The other group on the other hand spent several hours in a nice restaurant/pub and had a great time.
Imagine if you were given £100 a head to take 20 workmates out for an evening for dinner.
One option would be a kebab and a load of beer.
But, would you really take the group to a KFC or MCD for a celebration.
I eat junk food on occasion.
I enjoy the convenience and the salty greasiness of it.
But, it's a spontaneous impulse of lazyness and gluttony.
If I had time to plan and had a budget I can think of lots of better alternatives.
It was her birthday, her choice. You were so contemptuous you and a bunch of other workmates skipped it entirely? Some workmates you must be. It was a one off. Your sheer snobbery, and self-righteousness marks you out to be quite self-obsessed.Several people suggested alternatives, but she was adamant that she liked KFC.
The majority of us skipped the birthday party and spent money from our own pockets to go to a nice place.
The team manager went along with the lady and a few others and reported back.
The event lasted 20 minutes, they are some chicken and drank some fizzy pop.
The other group on the other hand spent several hours in a nice restaurant/pub and had a great time.
Imagine if you were given £100 a head to take 20 workmates out for an evening for dinner.
One option would be a kebab and a load of beer.
But, would you really take the group to a KFC or MCD for a celebration.
I eat junk food on occasion.
I enjoy the convenience and the salty greasiness of it.
But, it's a spontaneous impulse of lazyness and gluttony.
If I had time to plan and had a budget I can think of lots of better alternatives.
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