Taking children to McDonalds, is it child cruelty?

[TheHeretic]

vixen1700 said:

Thread isn't entirely serious if you read it, but I'll bite.

Look at obesity, people are calling it a treat, you can eat better/healthier for the money, I don't like the McDonalds copporation and their targeting at a really early age, kid are being sujected to this 'treat' at an early age. 'Treats' replacing healthy diets.

/waits for all the parents to start screaming at me.

Never had a slice of cake? Never had a 'treat'?

[S2Mike]

I remember the guy on "Supersize Me" eating nothing but MuckDonalds, he was advised to stop by his Doctor before he killed himself.
Pretty much why I dont go in there. Besides which, half an hour later I am hungry again so go for some real food.

[simonjunior831]

my son gets a McNuggets happy meal every Saturday after his football training, he is 6. Never bothered me in the slightest. If we were all aware of whats in Half the food we eat, we would never eat again. I get a bit pissed of with the whole McDonalds witch hunt that jumps up Evey now and again. I bet there are some pre made M&S meals out there just as bad for you as a McDonalds.

[TheHeretic]

S2Mike said:

I remember the guy on "Supersize Me" eating nothing but MuckDonalds, he was advised to stop by his Doctor before he killed himself.
Pretty much why I dont go in there. Besides which, half an hour later I am hungry again so go for some real food.

You k ow of you ate just chocolate eclairs, it would kill you. If you ate just hotdogs, it would kill you. Of you ate nothing but bread, it would kill you.

MODERATION people. It is a simple rule.

[monthefish]

So, come on OP - what exactly is your problem with McDonalds?

Is it the generally clean & nicely decorated premises?
Is it the quick & repeatable service?
Is it the reasonable (and repeateable) quality of food?
Is it the good value for money?
Is it the transparency of what goes into the products via the clarity of the nutritional information printed on the packaging?
Is it the free* toy that the kids get?

(* I'm aware nothing's free, and the cost will be absorbed in the price of the food)


Or is it (as I suspect) some attempt to make out that you are in some self-defined 'upper class' in which a McDonalds restaurant is beneath you?




p.s. Didn't Duncan Bannatyne opt to go to McDonalds to celebrate the floating of his company for £X hundred million?

[P-Jay]

vixen1700 said:

monthefish said:

I think the OP should, in detail, explain exactly what his problem with McDonalds is.

Thread isn't entirely serious if you read it, but I'll bite.

Look at obesity, people are calling it a treat, you can eat better/healthier for the money, I don't like the McDonalds copporation and their targeting at a really early age, kid are being sujected to this 'treat' at an early age. 'Treats' replacing healthy diets.

/waits for all the parents to start screaming at me.

This probably isn't news, but food that's bad for us, gerenally tastes quite nice, plus they throw in toys and play areas and crap - if they managed to provide, good healty food at low prices plus eveything else it wouldn't be a 'treat' it would be 'lunch'.

If you want to live the healthly life perhaps stop drinking to the point where you have a raging hangover - you won't even feel the need to visit McDonnalds ether.

[vixen1700]

monthefish said:

Or is it (as I suspect) some attempt to make out that you are in some self-defined 'upper class' in which a McDonalds restaurant is beneath you?

Hardly, couldn't be less 'upper-class'.

[Muzzer79]

vixen1700 said:

Spanna said:

I don't see what's wrong with the odd McDonald's every now and then for a child. It's a treat.

When the parent is giving it the child every other night, then it's a problem.

A treat? I've missed the point of when it becomes a treat, maybe that's the problem.

It's a treat for kids. You're an adult.

Kids love it because it's cool food in a cool place. If obesity is your issue, go back to the 60's/70's - people had lard, full fat milk, dripping, crackling, etc. They didn't die.

McDonalds is not a healthy meal but it does not contain arsenic or similar. In moderation, it will do a child no harm at all.

I speak as a non-McDonalds fan btw

[Manicminer]

monthefish said:

So, come on OP - what exactly is your problem with McDonalds?

Is it the generally clean & nicely decorated premises?
Is it the quick & repeatable service?
Is it the reasonable (and repeateable) quality of food?
Is it the good value for money?
Is it the transparency of what goes into the products via the clarity of the nutritional information printed on the packaging?
Is it the free* toy that the kids get?

(* I'm aware nothing's free, and the cost will be absorbed in the price of the food)


Or is it (as I suspect) some attempt to make out that you are in some self-defined 'upper class' in which a McDonalds restaurant is beneath you?




p.s. Didn't Duncan Bannatyne opt to go to McDonalds to celebrate the floating of his company for £X hundred million?

Mmm, did he indeed

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/01/duncan-ba...

[JonnyFive]

monthefish said:

So, come on OP - what exactly is your problem with McDonalds?

Is it the generally clean & nicely decorated premises?
Is it the quick & repeatable service?
Is it the reasonable (and repeateable) quality of food?
Is it the good value for money?
Is it the transparency of what goes into the products via the clarity of the nutritional information printed on the packaging?
Is it the free* toy that the kids get?

(* I'm aware nothing's free, and the cost will be absorbed in the price of the food)


Or is it (as I suspect) some attempt to make out that you are in some self-defined 'upper class' in which a McDonalds restaurant is beneath you?




p.s. Didn't Duncan Bannatyne opt to go to McDonalds to celebrate the floating of his company for £X hundred million?

Good post. Exactly my thoughts.

Some people on here do love to try and come across as 'better than you'.

[GTIR]

I didn't realise you're local.

Oh, it's not Duxford anyway.
Whittlesford or if we have to Sawston.

[theshrew]

V8mate said:

croyde said:

When I'm lazy and skint, I sometimes take my kids to Maccy Ds. Works out to around once, maybe twice a month.

I don't understand why poverty would make McDonalds a good idea. You could make a veritable gourmet three-course meal with fresh ingredients for the price of one adult and two child meals.

I think all these type of places are a rip off if you way up what you get.

Some scabby little oink cooking your food
Burgers like rubber
Fries that hard you could break a window
Your hungry again 30min after you eaten it.

However some of the stuff does taste yum - Milkshake mmmmmmmmmmm

I never take my daughter places like this if im on my own however If the Mrs is out with us then she might suggest going. Only every now and then just as a treat nothing wrong with that.

[Mark A B]

Course it's not cruelty! Is giving a child Easter eggs cruelty aswell? How about at Christmas should Jr not be allowed more than two pigs in blankets because he may get fat?

People have always been fat! Why should we try an label everything to stop others doing it or enjoying it?

I love walking straight out the gym and straight into mcdonalds for some nuggets to eat on the way home. I couldn't eat it every day but it hits the spot when I'm in the mood.

If I ever have kids will I feed them McDonalds? Probably not.... I much prefer KFC and that tasty tasty gravy. Just a shame they don't give toys out too!

[croyde]

We were due to go to MacDonalds but my lot were behaving so atrociously that I was going to withdraw the 'treat' but I fancied a quarter pounder and shake myself so I got them Happy Meals but told the guy not to put the toys in.

Evil dad

[Road2Ruin]

monthefish said:

So, come on OP - what exactly is your problem with McDonalds?

Is it the generally clean & nicely decorated premises?
Is it the quick & repeatable service?
Is it the reasonable (and repeateable) quality of food?
Is it the good value for money?
Is it the transparency of what goes into the products via the clarity of the nutritional information printed on the packaging?
Is it the free* toy that the kids get?

(* I'm aware nothing's free, and the cost will be absorbed in the price of the food)


Or is it (as I suspect) some attempt to make out that you are in some self-defined 'upper class' in which a McDonalds restaurant is beneath you?



p.s. Didn't Duncan Bannatyne opt to go to McDonalds to celebrate the floating of his company for £X hundred million?

Clearly you have never been to the McDonalds in Taunton town centre!
Dirty, miserable staff, warm food, Not sure where you get good value from (fish & Chips that's good value, still not great though), transparency of ingredients! Only when they were forced to show the quantity of fat and calories in their meals (big Mac 490Kcalories, 24g fat, 2.1g salt - add fries and a drink to that, Big Tasty nearly 900 calories and 55g fat), Free toy! you answered that yourself.

They have there place but trying to justify it like that is wrong.

Edited by Road2Ruin on Friday 5th October 14:41

[Fozziebear]

There's far worse cruelty going on right now that doesn't involve McD's. I avoid the place, have for 5 years, also don't drink pop or too much sugar. My downfall is chocolate and strong coffee. As already stated its about moderation or just obtaining from anything that isn't homemade

[ehonda]

Manicminer said:

Mmm, did he indeed

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/01/duncan-ba...

He's hit all the sterotypes. Cheap scotsman eats crap and has a heart attack. Bingo!

Why would I take my kids to McDonalds? The food is mass produced ste. That's no treat.

[750turbo]

ehonda said:

Manicminer said:

Mmm, did he indeed

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/01/duncan-ba...

He's hit all the sterotypes. Cheap scotsman eats crap and has a heart attack. Bingo!

Why would I take my kids to McDonalds? The food is mass produced ste. That's no treat.

But, he did not have a Heart Attack, did he?

[vixen1700]

GTIR said:

I didn't realise you're local.

Local-ish, but not in the same county.

[bitchstewie]

Ahh a bit more anti McDonalds snobbery Personally I don't see the harm as an occasional treat. Do it every day and of course it's a problem but that's down to bad parenting not McDonalds.