RedBull Stratos...Felix Baumgartner....700mph+ FreeFall

RedBull Stratos...Felix Baumgartner....700mph+ FreeFall

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AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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IforB said:
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How on earth would he get out of the sealed and pressurised capsule and deploy a 'chute from below 3000ft?

I'm guessing you don't know much about parachuting?

that's true I don't, however I thought the exit from the capsule could be quick

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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OK about the 2nd seems they have already done that before :

Dummies dropped from balloons up to 100,000 feet [30,500 meters] have attained 200 revolutions per minute, whereas tests show that 140 r.p.m. would be harmful, possibly fatal.

IforB

9,840 posts

230 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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AreOut said:

that's true I don't, however I thought the exit from the capsule could be quick
3000ft is about minimum deployment for most parachutes. You can go lower obviously, but a failure at anything between 20 and 3000ft is likely to be impossible to get out of. The balloon is a single point of failure and below that minimum altitude, then there is no way Baumgartner is going to be able to react, get out and deploy the parachute successfully before smacking into the ground.

Above 3000ft, then he's got a chance. As it climbs, it becomes safer, as any major failure is at a high enough altitude for a bail out to have a chance.

He's not exactly sitting in a zero-zero ejection seat.

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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I thought he jumped from a lot lower altitudes before, however it obviously can't compare to out of a capsule jump.

3point14159key

11,327 posts

193 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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when you're doing something risky you minimise risk where you can... it's not wimpy or stupid, it's sensible. if you want to succeed to have to minimise the chances for failure.

slopes

38,868 posts

188 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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RizzoTheRat said:
it'd have to be a hell of a strong wind, they're 600 miles form the sea biggrin
Err Richard Branson and Per Lindstrom circumnavigated the globe in a balloon at a lower altitude, so easily done that high up i would think wink

4key

10,796 posts

149 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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I think the point is that this is supposed to be an experiment and not a thrill seeking exercise, otherwise it would be a russian doing it in a tracksuit with a bedsheet as a shute.

JudgeMental

7,251 posts

234 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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IforB said:
JudgeMental said:
It's just that I fail to understand the whole namby pamby approach that's on display there. They're tying a capsule to a weather balloon and letting it go, then someone jumps out; it's not rocket science!
It's not even close to being a weather balloon. The balloon they are using is incredibly fragile and could easily get shredded. If that happens below 3000ft, then Baumgartner is dead. He hasn't got enough height to be able to get out and deploy his parachute.

So, I wouldn't call that being "namby pamby." Just sensible.
Well don't have a go at me! It's not me that's tying someone to a balloon and telling them to jump out.

Gazzas86

1,710 posts

172 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Let's hope they find some good weather today smile

TobyLaRohne

5,713 posts

207 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Gazzas86 said:
Let's hope they find some good weather today smile
They were saying on the feed that the weather forcast for today is not good so it may be a few days...hope they're wrong!

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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It's pretty hopeless viewing though, they have all this live camera action showing nothing and then frequent delays. At least NASA air all the boffins talking about what's going on when you watched a shuttle launch on NASA TV.

You'd think Red bull would be keen to show people base jumping or gliding across the channel or whatever other great stuff they're involved in whilst we wait.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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el stovey said:
whatever other great stuff they're involved in
you mean... everything!!!

Eric Mc

122,144 posts

266 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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el stovey said:
It's pretty hopeless viewing though, they have all this live camera action showing nothing and then frequent delays. At least NASA air all the boffins talking about what's going on when you watched a shuttle launch on NASA TV.

You'd think Red bull would be keen to show people base jumping or gliding across the channel or whatever other great stuff they're involved in whilst we wait.
They should have borrowed some ideas from the Bloodhound chaps. Last week's test of the rocket motor was a similar endeavour - uncertain timing, uncertain outcome etc. And yet they kept the air time full of interesting inerviews, technical explanations and little promotional films.

JonnyFive

29,403 posts

190 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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el stovey said:
It's pretty hopeless viewing though, they have all this live camera action showing nothing and then frequent delays. At least NASA air all the boffins talking about what's going on when you watched a shuttle launch on NASA TV.

You'd think Red bull would be keen to show people base jumping or gliding across the channel or whatever other great stuff they're involved in whilst we wait.
Were you watching on Redbull?

I had some chap speaking throughout it..

Gruffy

7,212 posts

260 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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JudgeMental said:
It's just that I fail to understand the whole namby pamby approach that's on display there. They're tying a capsule to a weather balloon and letting it go, then someone jumps out; it's not rocket science!
JM writing for The Mash now? hehe
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technol...

JudgeMental

7,251 posts

234 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Gruffy said:
JudgeMental said:
It's just that I fail to understand the whole namby pamby approach that's on display there. They're tying a capsule to a weather balloon and letting it go, then someone jumps out; it's not rocket science!
JM writing for The Mash now? hehe
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technol...
Real tears rofl

Killer2005

19,669 posts

229 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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JudgeMental said:
Real tears rofl
I do love the Daily Mash

joe_90

4,206 posts

232 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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IforB said:
JudgeMental said:
It's just that I fail to understand the whole namby pamby approach that's on display there. They're tying a capsule to a weather balloon and letting it go, then someone jumps out; it's not rocket science!
It's not even close to being a weather balloon. The balloon they are using is incredibly fragile and could easily get shredded. If that happens below 3000ft, then Baumgartner is dead. He hasn't got enough height to be able to get out and deploy his parachute.

So, I wouldn't call that being "namby pamby." Just sensible.
Sounds like I took more risk jumping the kids paddling pool on a makeshift ramp with an old skateboard the other day...

No 'H&S' bks for me.. I just went for it.

JonnyFive

29,403 posts

190 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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joe_90 said:
Sounds like I took more risk jumping the kids paddling pool on a makeshift ramp with an old skateboard the other day...

No 'H&S' bks for me.. I just went for it.
Did you check for windspeed first?

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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JonnyFive said:
joe_90 said:
Sounds like I took more risk jumping the kids paddling pool on a makeshift ramp with an old skateboard the other day...

No 'H&S' bks for me.. I just went for it.
Did you check for windspeed first?
about 700mph hehe