RedBull Stratos...Felix Baumgartner....700mph+ FreeFall

RedBull Stratos...Felix Baumgartner....700mph+ FreeFall

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Blown2CV

28,852 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Du1point8 said:
Blown2CV said:
am i right in interpreting that he said "i'm done" to mean that he isn't going to give it another go to try and get the freefall record too?
I maybe right in thinking that unless he has a wing suit on he is never getting that record as he hasnt the distance to fall as he is going too fast.
How did the current record get set then? Surely it would have had to be higher than baumgartner's... which was the highest so far wasn't it? I may be wrong..

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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fomb said:
he just got out and walked.
The one thing that still sticks in my mind is the way he just walked off the capsule. It SEEMED so nonchalant. No hesitation at all. Amazing.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Du1point8 said:
Blown2CV said:
am i right in interpreting that he said "i'm done" to mean that he isn't going to give it another go to try and get the freefall record too?
I maybe right in thinking that unless he has a wing suit on he is never getting that record as he hasnt the distance to fall as he is going too fast.
He could jump from lower down and open the parachute later? The record for longest free fall is

wiki said:
According to the Guinness Book of Records, Eugene Andreev (USSR) holds the official FAI record for the longest free-fall parachute jump after falling for 80,380 ft (24,500 m) from an altitude of 83,523 ft (25,458 m) near the city of Saratov, Russia on November 1, 1962. Although later on jumpers would ascend higher altitudes, Andreev's record was set without the use of a drogue chute during the jump and therefore remains the longest genuine free fall record.[3]

JonnyFive

29,398 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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eco21 said:
Think its a fake account as his twitter name is missing an 'e' at the end
I also think it's a fake account..

Du1point8

21,612 posts

193 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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el stovey said:
Du1point8 said:
Blown2CV said:
am i right in interpreting that he said "i'm done" to mean that he isn't going to give it another go to try and get the freefall record too?
I maybe right in thinking that unless he has a wing suit on he is never getting that record as he hasnt the distance to fall as he is going too fast.
He could jump from lower down and open the parachute later? The record for longest free fall is

wiki said:
According to the Guinness Book of Records, Eugene Andreev (USSR) holds the official FAI record for the longest free-fall parachute jump after falling for 80,380 ft (24,500 m) from an altitude of 83,523 ft (25,458 m) near the city of Saratov, Russia on November 1, 1962. Although later on jumpers would ascend higher altitudes, Andreev's record was set without the use of a drogue chute during the jump and therefore remains the longest genuine free fall record.[3]
how if Felix jumped from a higher altitude? 128,000 ft and when did he open his chute again?

I was meaning this one:

Baumgartner was in free fall for 4 minutes and 19 seconds, 17 seconds shy of mentor Joseph Kittinger's 1960 jump. Felix was moving too fast to get the extra 17 seconds.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Kittinger's record was set with a drogue chute, so even though he started from lower down, he never reached the speeds that Felixe did, and thus took longer to do his fall.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Du1point8 said:
Baumgartner was in free fall for 4 minutes and 19 seconds, 17 seconds shy of mentor Joseph Kittinger's 1960 jump. Felix was moving too fast to get the extra 17 seconds.
I thought he opened his parachute earlier as he couldn't see his instruments/horizon/whatever due to visor problems?

Grenoble

50,580 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Isn't it simpler? Felix was going for speed. Tradeoff between speed and time. With a bigger surface area and more of a sprawl position, he would have gone slower, but obviously had a longer free fall.

Sf_Manta

2,193 posts

192 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Already the jump's obtained meme status...







The Jackass one had me snorting a drink rofl

Du1point8

21,612 posts

193 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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el stovey said:
Du1point8 said:
Baumgartner was in free fall for 4 minutes and 19 seconds, 17 seconds shy of mentor Joseph Kittinger's 1960 jump. Felix was moving too fast to get the extra 17 seconds.
I thought he opened his parachute earlier as he couldn't see his instruments/horizon/whatever due to visor problems?
didnt think it was that much earlier not to get the longest free fall dive (as apposed to time, but distance).

croyde

22,949 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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el stovey said:
Du1point8 said:
Baumgartner was in free fall for 4 minutes and 19 seconds, 17 seconds shy of mentor Joseph Kittinger's 1960 jump. Felix was moving too fast to get the extra 17 seconds.
I thought he opened his parachute earlier as he couldn't see his instruments/horizon/whatever due to visor problems?
A very rough calculation of mine biggrin works out that to carry on for another 20 secs or so in order to beat the record, he would have had to pull his chute at around a 1000ft yikes

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Blown2CV said:
Du1point8 said:
Blown2CV said:
am i right in interpreting that he said "i'm done" to mean that he isn't going to give it another go to try and get the freefall record too?
I maybe right in thinking that unless he has a wing suit on he is never getting that record as he hasnt the distance to fall as he is going too fast.
How did the current record get set then? Surely it would have had to be higher than baumgartner's... which was the highest so far wasn't it? I may be wrong..
The longest free fall as I quoted before was ,

wiki said:
Eugene Andreev (USSR) holds the official FAI record for the longest free-fall parachute jump after falling for 80,380 ft (24,500 m) from an altitude of 83,523 ft (25,458 m) near the city of Saratov, Russia on November 1, 1962. Although later on jumpers would ascend higher altitudes, Andreev's record was set without the use of a drogue chute during the jump and therefore remains the longest genuine free fall record.[3]
Baumgartner broke the records for highest free fall, highest helium man balloon flight, and for the fastest free fall

Andreev's record for longest free fall was not broken and he 'only' jumped from 83,000 ft.

JonnyFive

29,398 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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But it's pretty much two completely different records isn't it.. I guess if Felix had jumped but went belly down rather than head first, with a drogue chute too, he probably would have got the longest record.. But missed out on the speed one.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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JonnyFive said:
But it's pretty much two completely different records isn't it.. I guess if Felix had jumped but went belly down rather than head first, with a drogue chute too, he probably would have got the longest record.. But missed out on the speed one.
Yeah I think that's what started all this debate, i was suggesting that might be the record he goes for next.

ofcorsa

3,527 posts

244 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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I'm not sure I understand the wiki WRT to these records

It says Andreyev broke Kittingers record. But also states that Kittinger used a drogue and fell from higher

How can it be the same record if it was done under different conditions? You can’t retrospectively say it doesn’t count because he used a drogue surely?

No time is given for Andreyevs free fall but I’ve only ever seen Felix's time rather than distance.

confused

Du1point8

21,612 posts

193 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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el stovey said:
Blown2CV said:
Du1point8 said:
Blown2CV said:
am i right in interpreting that he said "i'm done" to mean that he isn't going to give it another go to try and get the freefall record too?
I maybe right in thinking that unless he has a wing suit on he is never getting that record as he hasnt the distance to fall as he is going too fast.
How did the current record get set then? Surely it would have had to be higher than baumgartner's... which was the highest so far wasn't it? I may be wrong..
The longest free fall as I quoted before was ,

wiki said:
Eugene Andreev (USSR) holds the official FAI record for the longest free-fall parachute jump after falling for 80,380 ft (24,500 m) from an altitude of 83,523 ft (25,458 m) near the city of Saratov, Russia on November 1, 1962. Although later on jumpers would ascend higher altitudes, Andreev's record was set without the use of a drogue chute during the jump and therefore remains the longest genuine free fall record.[3]
Baumgartner broke the records for highest free fall, highest helium man balloon flight, and for the fastest free fall

Andreev's record for longest free fall was not broken and he 'only' jumped from 83,000 ft.
But which bit did not classify as free fall?

128,097 feet, to the moment he opened his ripcord — at 8251 feet above sea level. The total free fall distance — 119,846 feet

Thats nearly 40,000 more feet than the one you mention.

Gruffy

7,212 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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croyde said:
A very rough calculation of mine biggrin works out that to carry on for another 20 secs or so in order to beat the record, he would have had to pull his chute at around a 1000ft yikes
He's deployed lower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-PsviSStA8
(Caution: awesome 80's action movie soundtrack)

Love the nuttiness of this bunch too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnz0hsKaqUQ

Smart Mart

11,831 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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ofcorsa said:
I'm not sure I understand the wiki WRT to these records

It says Andreyev broke Kittingers record. But also states that Kittinger used a drogue and fell from higher

How can it be the same record if it was done under different conditions? You can’t retrospectively say it doesn’t count because he used a drogue surely?

No time is given for Andreyevs free fall but I’ve only ever seen Felix's time rather than distance.

confused
I assume that's because there's two different records for longest freefall. One for time, the other for distance.

Baumgartner obviously broke the distance record but missed out on the other one as he pulled his chute early.

Grenoble

50,580 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Smart Mart said:
Baumgartner obviously broke the distance record but missed out on the other one as he pulled his chute early.
Yes, and no.

He would never have made the freefall time AND the speed record from what I can see. In trading speed over time - the 833mph put paid to any opportunity to hit both records, even if he had pulled at 2000ft.

Smart Mart

11,831 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Grenoble said:
Yes, and no.

He would never have made the freefall time AND the speed record from what I can see. In trading speed over time - the 833mph put paid to any opportunity to hit both records, even if he had pulled at 2000ft.
Ah right sorry, you're correct. Are you saying that he didn't have enough seconds left to wait to beat the record?