New Teaspoon Advice Please

New Teaspoon Advice Please

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rog007

5,759 posts

224 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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allroad one said:
I have just purchased a Shakira Ninja ZX350RS peformance teaspoon. It makes beautiful pops and bangs from it's BerryBomb galvanised titanium and gold leaf Wizard when it stirs. Simply beautiful.
Spooky! I was just about to pull the trigger on one of those but as they're clearly becoming accessible to the masses I'll give it a miss...

55palfers

5,909 posts

164 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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allroad one said:
I have just purchased a Shakira Ninja ZX350RS peformance teaspoon. It makes beautiful pops and bangs from it's BerryBomb galvanised titanium and gold leaf Wizard when it stirs. Simply beautiful.
Is it not possible to remove the later embellishments and return it to the far more desirable ZX350A spec?

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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55palfers said:
allroad one said:
I have just purchased a Shakira Ninja ZX350RS peformance teaspoon. It makes beautiful pops and bangs from it's BerryBomb galvanised titanium and gold leaf Wizard when it stirs. Simply beautiful.
Is it not possible to remove the later embellishments and return it to the far more desirable ZX350A spec?
yes, but the purists would be up in arms at that.

There was a more popular choice in the late 80s when the RS came out, to take the small hammer that comes with a watch repair kit and to give a few taps to each edge of the spoon and ever so slightly increase the depth of the bowl.

This markedly changed the handling characteristics of the RS to become something a lot more focused but still so elegant and intricate with the embellishments - a kind of OEM+ style.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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OEM+? What rubbish. It's firmly in the realm of chav tat.

Who's at Buxton this weekend? I've got this inheritance burning a hole, hopefully I'll see something worth a bid. I hear Pete "Patina" Braithwaite is going to be there, although I don't know if he'll be buying or selling.

dxg

8,202 posts

260 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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allroad one said:
I have just purchased a Shakira Ninja ZX350RS peformance teaspoon. It makes beautiful pops and bangs from it's BerryBomb galvanised titanium and gold leaf Wizard when it stirs. Simply beautiful.
Reduce your stirring speed! Pops and bangs are a sure sign of cavitation and we all know where that leads. Ask any pump or ship's engineer.

I would never criticise your collection; this is a direct criticism of your technique. Justified in this situation, I feel. Pops and bangs, indeed. They youngsters like them, sure, but they haven't been around long enough to see the consequences. I've seen many a spoon lost to humanity through that particular game.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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Shakermaker said:
55palfers said:
allroad one said:
I have just purchased a Shakira Ninja ZX350RS peformance teaspoon. It makes beautiful pops and bangs from it's BerryBomb galvanised titanium and gold leaf Wizard when it stirs. Simply beautiful.
Is it not possible to remove the later embellishments and return it to the far more desirable ZX350A spec?
yes, but the purists would be up in arms at that.

There was a more popular choice in the late 80s when the RS came out, to take the small hammer that comes with a watch repair kit and to give a few taps to each edge of the spoon and ever so slightly increase the depth of the bowl.

This markedly changed the handling characteristics of the RS to become something a lot more focused but still so elegant and intricate with the embellishments - a kind of OEM+ style.
After reading this thread I sold it to a shady person smelling of cannabis in a Citroen Saxo.


I have instead purchased an

"Daytona" by Paco Ribbon teaspoon. It is uniquely handcrafted by Paco Ribbon (the l'enfant terrible of the teaspoon movment in the late sixties) and his engineering team at his atelier in Poissy, France. Each spoon is lovingly made from the finest silver, then laced in a mixture created at NASA consisting of leftover military grade steel from the Eurofighter Typhoon and carbon fibre from the Bugatti Veyron Super Sport. Each spoon was placed in to a custom built wind tunnel created especially for Paco Ribbon by NASA.
After construction, the spoon is sent to Rolls Royce Motor Cars in Crewe, England where it is to be tested.
The spoon is tested for thousands of kilometers at stirring tea at over 1,000 km/h to test against spillages. Then, 600000 litres of water stolen from charity wells in Africa is poured on to each spoon to ensure water resistance. Finally before final delivery to Daytona, USA, for it's exclusive customers, each spoon is wrapped in snakeskin and placed in to a quilted leather box, which is then wrapped in velvet and decorated with a single authentic diamond.


My spoon has been owned by a wealthy real estate agent in California, before being sold to me at Sotheby's, in London. It has a full documented service history and Paco Ribbon insurance and a full NASA MOT.

glenrobbo

35,251 posts

150 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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marshalla said:
citizensm1th said:
Close the thread I have Godwins tea spoon

http://www.wwiidaggers.com/38100.htm
FAKE!
O. M. G.!!!! yikes

I sincerely hope you haven't actually bought that hideous travesty!!!
It is such a blatantly poorly-executed forgery that all but the common layman would instantly recognise as a FAKE!
Look at the close-up of the base metal grain structure: it looks like the cheapest Mazak alloy to me, and will be riddled with intergranular subsurface corrosion.
citizensm1th, have you taken leave of your senses man?

I mean, even the real thing is not particularly good, it was always an ersatz rip-off of the much sturdier and purposeful Krupps Reichslöffelkaffeemeister XVII

And another thing, this is supposed to be the Teaspoon Thread, please do not sully it with cheap & awful coffee stirrers! nono


Sometimes I despair of the young of today. rolleyes

Edited by glenrobbo on Monday 8th August 12:10

Poisson96

2,098 posts

131 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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Got myself some craziness incoming, circa mid to late 80's Huss Arrow or Arrow Dynamics designed and built prototype. It is as mad as their roller coasters. Doubled concave with a gap in the middle for some weird dynamics what with the flared edges that to the same height as halfway up the spoon.

Biggest surprise? Acquired for under 4 figures. I bagged it and ran I tell thee

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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Poisson96 said:
Got myself some craziness incoming, circa mid to late 80's Huss Arrow or Arrow Dynamics designed and built prototype. It is as mad as their roller coasters. Doubled concave with a gap in the middle for some weird dynamics what with the flared edges that to the same height as halfway up the spoon.

Biggest surprise? Acquired for under 4 figures. I bagged it and ran I tell thee
Pah! Not good compared to my Daytona by Paco Ribbon, or my Stirrer Evolution.

Poisson96

2,098 posts

131 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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You may think that, but this has much weirder dynamics and is the only one like it ever

Badvok

1,867 posts

167 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Poisson96 said:
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Biggest surprise? Acquired for under 4 figures. I bagged it and ran I tell thee
Value today?

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Badvok said:
Poisson96 said:
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Biggest surprise? Acquired for under 4 figures. I bagged it and ran I tell thee
Value today?
Sturm & Greybolds suggest in the region of £15-22,000 depending on condition, though I always found their estimates a little conservative as they are geared towards the trade buyer. Having a look on Chaffings Guide, with previous auction sale prices listed, it would suggest closer to £28,000, but they haven't seen one for sale at auction since 2006.

NDA

21,574 posts

225 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Hahahahaha... Chaffing's Guide.

He spends literally 1 minute with each spoon to produce his '10 point' system that's supposed to cover bowl accuracy, thruster flanges, speed enamels, tip balances, spigots, vortex protection etc etc.

I really don't rate him, his pricing guide or any of the above.

SrMoreno

546 posts

146 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Does anyone have any recommendations for companies providing long-term storage solutions? It's for a recently acquired high-value collection for a foreign client, ideally near Heathrow, Paris CDG or Ulaan Bataar. I won't name the collection, but anyone who has been watching recent sales can probably guess. The buyer is a coffee man seeking to diversify his portfolio, so obviously the spoons will only be taken out for select shows that would increase the value and profile of the collection. I would expect the storage company to provide regular detailed reports on condition, porosity etc.

55palfers

5,909 posts

164 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Gents,

Had a bit of an off with my daily! Got a bit carried away on such a nice sunny morning, hit a patch of undissolved Gold Blend and there it was jammed in the tea-tray.....

It's only an office snotter but it has given good service over many years and I was wondering it it's worth getting it repaired.

Also, any recommendations as to a reasonably priced repair shop?

Maybe claim on insurance and buy the salvage ?

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dxg

8,202 posts

260 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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I lament your loss. A double twist of both axes and an failure mode seldom seen in the Modern Pursuit.

But have you accidentally revealed a rather clandestine modification of the spoon itself? Never, in all my days have I seen such a crudely - yet no doubt efficient - modification of the leading and trailing edges of a spoon. In fact, I consider such flamboyance a flagrant disregard of Regulation 26.4 of the 1847 Convention. You know that rule as well as I, so I don't need to spell out the consequences.

You stand accused!

marshalla

15,902 posts

201 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Looks like a write-off to me. Even Geller and Sons would struggle to get much lateral strength back into that flange - and the edge damage is way too bad for it to even be used as a training aid in the future.

dxg

8,202 posts

260 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Damaged shaft, I admit.

Modified bowl, I suggest...

SilverSixer

8,202 posts

151 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Poisson96 said:
Got myself some craziness incoming, circa mid to late 80's Huss Arrow or Arrow Dynamics designed and built prototype. It is as mad as their roller coasters. Doubled concave with a gap in the middle for some weird dynamics what with the flared edges that to the same height as halfway up the spoon.

Biggest surprise? Acquired for under 4 figures. I bagged it and ran I tell thee
Shouldn't this be in the "Best Smoker Teaspoons, 1-5 Large" thread?

Personally I get mine in bulk from IKEA and dispose of them when they go wrong. Sometimes scrap value isn't much, but it's an ever changing market, dependant on demand from China mostly, and the price per tonne can be quite high sometimes.

Ananthema to most on here I suppose, but they're items to be used in my view, not kept in velvet lined, heated boxes.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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SilverSixer said:
Poisson96 said:
Got myself some craziness incoming, circa mid to late 80's Huss Arrow or Arrow Dynamics designed and built prototype. It is as mad as their roller coasters. Doubled concave with a gap in the middle for some weird dynamics what with the flared edges that to the same height as halfway up the spoon.

Biggest surprise? Acquired for under 4 figures. I bagged it and ran I tell thee
Shouldn't this be in the "Best Smoker Teaspoons, 1-5 Large" thread?

Personally I get mine in bulk from IKEA and dispose of them when they go wrong. Sometimes scrap value isn't much, but it's an ever changing market, dependant on demand from China mostly, and the price per tonne can be quite high sometimes.

Ananthema to most on here I suppose, but they're items to be used in my view, not kept in velvet lined, heated boxes.
Normally I would agree with you. But then I like to flash mine around a lot, especially when some peasant type comes to visit and wants tea - I'll only let them have the Typhoo but I'll give them the spoon and say "see this? It is a 1912 Vichixe Souizant, hand crafted in Switzerland for use aboard the Titanic but was in a batch that missed the boat. They were meant to be destroyed when the ship went down, as is honour and custom in such circumstances, but this batch were taken by Cmdr Howell Cheising and stowed away in his private collection until they were released by his granddaughter in 1977. People keep this in boxes, they cost £18,000 each. But I just bung it in the dishwasher just because I can."