Show us your knives

[Celtic Dragon]

Corpulent Tosser said:

I have a couple of knives used around the garage mainly but know little about them (I am in the market for some good kitchen knives though)

Anyway, to the point.
Why are locking knives illegal ?

What is the definition of a locking knife ?
I have a couple, including one I brought back from the US recently, which require me to press a button on the side before I can close it, I would consider that to be locking but I can buy a knife like that in any DIY store.

Ta

They are not illegal, just to carry without good reason. Ie being a tradesman (gardener etc) is good reason and justifiable.


The term lock knife is derived from the ability to be able to lock the blade in place via a mechanical lock.

[Corpulent Tosser]

Celtic Dragon said:

They are not illegal, just to carry without good reason. Ie being a tradesman (gardener etc) is good reason and justifiable.


The term lock knife is derived from the ability to be able to lock the blade in place via a mechanical lock.

So what I have ARE lock knives but so long as they are in my toolbox or at home they are legal.

Thanks

[TheJimi]

The law in this respect is completely pointless.

It prevents absolutely nothing at all, because those who seek to carry a knife for a weapon, or are inclined to use one as such, will do so regardless of legalities.

[Big Rod]

TheJimi said:

The law in this respect is completely pointless.

It prevents absolutely nothing at all, because those who seek to carry a knife for a weapon, or are inclined to use one as such, will do so regardless of legalities.

Years ago one company I worked for stopped us carrying knifes in our toolboxes because a customer happened to see one in one of the tech's kit. I always found having one useful for opening packing and various other things so I was a little put out by the instruction.

Didn't stop us carrying all sorts of other potentially lethal hand tools around though!

[Sonic]

Very apt username

[Big Rod]

LOL

[JontyR]

JontyR said:

The Nur said:

JontyR said:

My camping knife

Is that one of those Gerber/Bear Grylls ones?

Ive had the knife for almost 30 years. I had seen either it or something similar in the Rambo films...so went and bought it. It has certainly stood the test of time, so cant fault it on that. Not the most subtle of knives though

1-CUCHILLO JUNGLE KING I BLANCO

- Blade length: 155 mm.
- Handle length: 205 mm.
- Weigth: 1000 gr.
- It includes the following survival accesories: * Fishing kit. * Sewing kit. * Scalpel. * External applications. * Nippers. * Pencil. * Compass. * Mangesium pill. * Pills capsule. * SOS symbols. * Signal mirror * Ruler * Latex tubes. * Nylon cord. * Forker pole. * Multitool skinner knife.

- Stainless steel injected handle..
- X42 steel blade (INOX 46 CR13).
- 85 mm double saw
- It includes policarbonate and fiber glass rigid case with sharpening stone and 8m of cord.

P R I C E
€ 160,34 Euros
$ 207,82 USD

Edited by JontyR on Tuesday 12th November 14:38

1 further year on, and the knife died whilst on Sunday whilst building a den with my little boy

Almost made it to 30 years

[Cotty]

Corpulent Tosser said:

I have a couple of knives used around the garage mainly but know little about them (I am in the market for some good kitchen knives though)

You want http://japanesechefsknife.com/ I bought my Misono Petty 120mm from there

The Nur said:

Ayahuasca said:

The 'survival' knives with hollow handles tend to be cheap crap

IIRC the Gerber Bear Grylls is similar to the Gerber LMF2 pictured in my OP, but it comes in garish grey and orange and says 'Bear Grylls' on it which is a bit off-putting.

I was under that impression they might be a bit crappy but I haven't actually seen one, only been told about them by a friend. Apologies if I inadvertently cast negative aspersions on a good knife

Actually built like a brick st house. I have the Ultimate Pro knife with the fire steel, sharpener, survival guide and whistle.


Here is a full review including the reviewer hammering the tar out of it with a sledge hammer http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotat...

Edited by Cotty on Tuesday 12th November 16:39

[V8RX7]

Burnham said:

V8RX7 said:

gingerpaul said:

Mine is a Boker Plus Trance 42. It's the best sensibly priced UK legal knife I have found when I was looking a few years ago. Rock solid and it keeps an edge for ages.

That's NOT UK legal - it locks so it's illegal.

It doesnt lock, so it is legal:

http://www.heinnie.com/Trance-42/p-0-0-5217/

Then that picture you've linked to doesn't make sense.

On the back view there is a cut out piece in the back which is the locking mechanism that you have to push down with your thumb to close the knife.

Are you saying that is removed on UK versions ?

[V8RX7]

Celtic Dragon said:

They are not illegal, just to carry without good reason. Ie being a tradesman (gardener etc) is good reason and justifiable.


The term lock knife is derived from the ability to be able to lock the blade in place via a mechanical lock.

Agreed they are just illegal to carry (without reason)

However your definition of locking is wrong.

There was a Court ruling and basically if simple pressure on the blade doesn't close the knife - then it is deemed to be locked.

[ArtVandelay]

V8RX7 said:

Then that picture you've linked to doesn't make sense.

On the back view there is a cut out piece in the back which is the locking mechanism that you have to push down with your thumb to close the knife.

Are you saying that is removed on UK versions ?

If it's anything like the smaller version (subcom) it has small ball bearings within the lock and these help it act like a slip joint. The frame lock is modified so that pressure on the spine of blade will close it, without having to move the lock yourself.

You also have a half way stop which minimises the risk of shutting the blade on ones fingers.

http://www.heinnie.com/Knives/-UK-Legal-Carry-Kniv...

Any Boker 42 is designed to be UK legal IIRC

[GWC]

Does this mean that the Opinel knife in my fishing tackle box could get me in trouble with the law?

[Don1]

Common sense would suggest not. But how often does that get applied...

[Burnham]

ArtVandelay said:

V8RX7 said:

Then that picture you've linked to doesn't make sense.

On the back view there is a cut out piece in the back which is the locking mechanism that you have to push down with your thumb to close the knife.

Are you saying that is removed on UK versions ?

If it's anything like the smaller version (subcom) it has small ball bearings within the lock and these help it act like a slip joint. The frame lock is modified so that pressure on the spine of blade will close it, without having to move the lock yourself.

You also have a half way stop which minimises the risk of shutting the blade on ones fingers.

http://www.heinnie.com/Knives/-UK-Legal-Carry-Kniv...

Any Boker 42 is designed to be UK legal IIRC

That's correct Art. While it may look like a normal locking mechanism, there is only friction, it does not actually lock. You don't have to force any part of the mechanism to close it, just apply pressure to the back of the blade itself.

[V8RX7]

GWC said:

Does this mean that the Opinel knife in my fishing tackle box could get me in trouble with the law?

As always it depends, when I work as a builder I always carry a small 2" lock knife - have done for 20+years without issue but I and my van are presentable.

My labourer - a tattooed, skinhead with a tatty van has been stopped and prosecuted several times over the years for carrying an offensive weapon - even when a small knife was in his van.

[Odie]

Cotty said:

Actually built like a brick st house. I have the Ultimate Pro knife with the fire steel, sharpener, survival guide and whistle.


Here is a full review including the reviewer hammering the tar out of it with a sledge hammer http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotat...

Edited by Cotty on Tuesday 12th November 16:39

If you want a proper survival knife get a frost mora/clipper they cost about £7-8 and are extremely good value for money & I consider them better than anything gerber can produce, buy a separated fire steel again you will be able to get something that throws a better spark than the one supplied by the one supplied by gerber, to round of my mora/fero rod set I got a hand made leather sheath that they both fit into for about £15.

Add to this either a folding saw/machete/axe and your pretty much set.

Just my humble opinion of course.

[Nightmare]

SlimRick said:

I didn't know these were illegal to carry - I do know that if you try and get on a plane at Bristol airport with one in your wallet, they pull you to one side, question you, then confiscate it :/

Where as I accidently took my to the US this year and it went through scanners at heathrow, Dallas and SF airports with no trouble at all!

Celtic - I reckon you've actually got even more knives than I do....probably...maybe not as many swords though. I've also got acclimated to the usual comments about being a serial killer . I can't claim to not having anything legally questionable though!

Edited by Nightmare on Thursday 14th November 23:09

[Ayahuasca]

A friend of mine had one of those survival type knives, he was trying to cut his way through some vines, realised it was useless, and when he went to put it away he slipped. Cut his hand to the bone and he had to stitch it up that night by the light of the campfire. Lethal things to have in your hand if you are walking anywhere slippery.

My narrow escape with a machete - was hacking my way through some green stuff when suddenly felt a massive stinging biting all over my head. I had dislodged a wasp's nest! I threw the machete into the air and ran yelping in small circles. It landed not far away.

[Mashedpotatoes]

Chim said:

TheJimi said:

You could just accept he has a hobby that doesn't interest you instead of replying to the guy with a tttish comment.

A hobby

Is that like Jeffrey Dahmers hobby of nouvelle cuisine

Oo get you with your American history references. It's just like watching that scene in the bar in the film good will hunting

[Afromonk]

Celtic Dragon said:

TBH I've heard all the comments about being a serial killer etc before, and its a bit like water off a ducks back now. They interest me, but I prefer making them now when I get the chance. I find it satisfying and relaxing to use something I created, even if its just a simple spoon. I probably spend around 200 - 250 days outside in the fields a year.

This is my latest, the blade came from Brisa, the handle is Mammoth Ivory, yes, really, Wooly Mammoth tusk slices.




I have another one to do this winter, as I have a lot more Mammoth to use and some Warthog ivory to.

I have a flat ground D2 in Black Linen Micarta, didn't make it though
Never even cut anything