Katie Hopkins - vacuous moron
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Shuvi McTupya said:
Wait, are you calling someone a Nazi?
The acceptance of extreme left vrs extreme right is noticeable is my point, they are in principle the same s
t sandwich in my book and thus by default I find both vomit inducing.IF you support and accept Owen Jones then by default you have to accept others will support horrible creatures (they are both) like Hopkins. Bigotry with a dress on (political cause) is the same as bigotry in the buff. (Some would argue the first is more dangerous and subversive to the good of society due to it being "hidden").
Edited by kippertie on Tuesday 6th October 14:07
kippertie said:
100% wrong on a T-Shirt (as it should be)
You get a pass on this on a T-Shirt (and you should not)
Wtf? You get a pass on this on a T-Shirt (and you should not)
Do you view chinese PRC iconography the same as a swastika? Mao is generally regarded as the ‘worst’ of all dictators.
I might see your point if soviet imagery only represented Stalin but it covers a much wider period of history than nazi Germany and thus has very different connotations.
kippertie said:
WTF ?....you think Stalin was the only evil bd under those colours ?
(Yes, any red flag of similar ilk, incld the present PRC dictatorship)
Are you just trolling?d under those colours ?(Yes, any red flag of similar ilk, incld the present PRC dictatorship)
National flags and national symbols represent all kinds of different things. The swastika however doesn’t represent anything good to anyone.
Why do YOU think people see a Swastika symbol as offensive but not PRC and soviet era imagery?
El stovey said:
kippertie said:
WTF ?....you think Stalin was the only evil bd under those colours ?
(Yes, any red flag of similar ilk, incld the present PRC dictatorship)
Are you just trolling?d under those colours ?(Yes, any red flag of similar ilk, incld the present PRC dictatorship)
National flags and national symbols represent all kinds of different things. The swastika however doesn’t represent anything good to anyone.
Why do YOU think people see a Swastika symbol as offensive but not PRC and soviet era imagery?
El stovey said:
Are you just trolling?
National flags and national symbols represent all kinds of different things. The swastika however doesn’t represent anything good to anyone.
Why do ------- I and some other demented people---- see a Swastika symbol as offensive but not PRC and soviet era imagery?
Not a clue National flags and national symbols represent all kinds of different things. The swastika however doesn’t represent anything good to anyone.
Why do ------- I and some other demented people---- see a Swastika symbol as offensive but not PRC and soviet era imagery?
History has proven you very wrong on that.
asa WW2 was over it became very clear that they represent the same type of disgusting system.
Castrol for a knave said:
One can be a Communist without being an apologist for Stalin or Mao. Not so much a Nazi and the holocaust.
Really, how so ?Ahhh yes, theirs (and all the others) was the "wrong" sort of Communism !.....Ahhh, I get it now, silly me.
(Only apologists single out Stalin and Mao as the "wrong ones", hint: it is not the get-out you think it is)
kippertie said:
Castrol for a knave said:
One can be a Communist without being an apologist for Stalin or Mao. Not so much a Nazi and the holocaust.
Really, how so ?Ahhh yes, theirs (and all the others) was the "wrong" sort of Communism !.....Ahhh, I get it now, silly me.
(Only apologists single out Stalin and Mao as the "wrong ones", hint: it is not the get-out you think it is)
Somehow, I can't quite put Hobsbawm and Thompson into the "same as the Nazis" box. Plenty of British communists disavowed themselves of Stalin in the 1950's so it is perfectly possible to follow it as a philosophy without the urge to purge.
Castrol for a knave said:
I'm certainly not an apologist for Communism. It might have been a great idea in the pub sometime around 1903 mind but it's a dead end as a political movement.
Somehow, I can't quite put Hobsbawm and Thompson into the "same as the Nazis" box. Plenty of British communists disavowed themselves of Stalin in the 1950's so it is perfectly possible to follow it as a philosophy without the urge to purge.
Hobsbawm and Thompson did not get into power, they thus had not reached the "purge stage" that always follows that ideology. Somehow, I can't quite put Hobsbawm and Thompson into the "same as the Nazis" box. Plenty of British communists disavowed themselves of Stalin in the 1950's so it is perfectly possible to follow it as a philosophy without the urge to purge.
Shall we forgive Mosley and his Blacks
ts then ? Double standards going on again, same with Hopkins and the alter ego(s)Edited by kippertie on Tuesday 6th October 17:23
kippertie said:
Castrol for a knave said:
I'm certainly not an apologist for Communism. It might have been a great idea in the pub sometime around 1903 mind but it's a dead end as a political movement.
Somehow, I can't quite put Hobsbawm and Thompson into the "same as the Nazis" box. Plenty of British communists disavowed themselves of Stalin in the 1950's so it is perfectly possible to follow it as a philosophy without the urge to purge.
Hobsbawm and Thompson did not get into power, they thus had not reached the "purge stage" that always follows that ideology. Somehow, I can't quite put Hobsbawm and Thompson into the "same as the Nazis" box. Plenty of British communists disavowed themselves of Stalin in the 1950's so it is perfectly possible to follow it as a philosophy without the urge to purge.
Shall we forgive Mosley and his Blacks
ts then ? Double standards going on again, same with Hopkins and the alter ego(s)Edited by kippertie on Tuesday 6th October 17:23
t and a Wattbike session to attend to. Why not wear a T shirt bearing each logo and explain your reasoning to passers by.
kippertie said:
100% wrong on a T-Shirt (as it should be)
You get a pass on this on a T-Shirt (and you should not)
Hang on. Communism's goals and world view are NOT morally equivalent to Nazism. The former thinks all people are fundamentally equal and redeemable. The latter thinks the precise opposite. Communism has always led to totalitarianism which in turn leads to massive amounts of suffering, so they're both sYou get a pass on this on a T-Shirt (and you should not)
t, but one is misguided and the other is first order morally repugnant. They are not two sides of the same coin.I think you need to read deeper into the basics of National Socialist German Workers' Party, what it was based on and how (with Hitlers increasing paranoia) developed into what it did.
I care not one jot as to the above or for that matter the "principles" of Communism, both have proven (many times in the case of communists) to be deeply amoral methods of controlling the "free man". Calling one misguided is as apologist as claiming Hitler made the trains run on time and that Mao "on balance did more good than harm".
The same coin description ?, I am very happy to use that.
I care not one jot as to the above or for that matter the "principles" of Communism, both have proven (many times in the case of communists) to be deeply amoral methods of controlling the "free man". Calling one misguided is as apologist as claiming Hitler made the trains run on time and that Mao "on balance did more good than harm".
The same coin description ?, I am very happy to use that.
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