Katie Hopkins - vacuous moron
Discussion
AW111 said:
PAULJ5555 said:
She was on some immigration debate the other week and she made some very good points, she also said what most people think but are to PC to actualy say.
Do you know that's what "most people think but are too PC to say", or just wish it was? Edited by PAULJ5555 on Thursday 20th March 13:15
She also said that UK people are not happy with Hospital waiting times, not being able to get on dental lists, appointments with GP's are a struggle to get in, housing in the UK si maxed out, and lots of other things mainly pointing at the UK is FULL UP and we have no room/services to take more people.
Edited by PAULJ5555 on Friday 2nd May 12:28
PAULJ5555 said:
She also said that UK people are not happy with Hospital waiting times, not being able to get on dental lists, appointments with GP's are a struggle to get in, housing in the UK si maxed out, and lots of other things mainly pointing at the UK is FULL UP and we have no room/services to take more people.
NHS waits and GP/dentist access is a mountainous national problem which hasn't been caused by "immigrants". Solving the question of immigration would not cure NHS capacity and access issues. Wouldn't even make a noticeable dent.Don't take your information from someone who doesn't understand the problem. You wouldn't take suspension set-up advice from my Granny?
PAULJ5555 said:
In this program yes, she quoted some poll that was done 70 or 90% (I forget which one) were not happy with immigration in the UK.
She also said that UK people are not happy with Hospital waiting times, not being able to get on dental lists, appointments with GP's are a struggle to get in, housing in the UK si maxed out, and lots of other things mainly pointing at the UK is FULL UP and we have no room/services to take more people.
Yes, but some people say those things on here all the time on the NP&E threads; assuming that those who don't are "too PC" seems a stretch - maybe they just don't see things the way you do.She also said that UK people are not happy with Hospital waiting times, not being able to get on dental lists, appointments with GP's are a struggle to get in, housing in the UK si maxed out, and lots of other things mainly pointing at the UK is FULL UP and we have no room/services to take more people.
Edited by PAULJ5555 on Friday 2nd May 12:28
captainzep said:
PAULJ5555 said:
She also said that UK people are not happy with Hospital waiting times, not being able to get on dental lists, appointments with GP's are a struggle to get in, housing in the UK si maxed out, and lots of other things mainly pointing at the UK is FULL UP and we have no room/services to take more people.
NHS waits and GP/dentist access is a mountainous national problem which hasn't been caused by "immigrants". Solving the question of immigration would not cure NHS capacity and access issues. Wouldn't even make a noticeable dent.Don't take your information from someone who doesn't understand the problem. You wouldn't take suspension set-up advice from my Granny?
PAULJ5555 said:
She was not saying its immigrants fault, just that it contributes to the problem and that we have no more capacity going forward.
It's a tiny contributor, in the grand scheme of national NHS problems. As I said before, reducing immigration would have next to zero effect on the NHS. So why did she say it? -Because the NHS is always an emotive subject and it helps her to whip up more negative feeling and latent prejudice. People are taken in.
captainzep said:
It's a tiny contributor, in the grand scheme of national NHS problems. As I said before, reducing immigration would have next to zero effect on the NHS. So why did she say it? -Because the NHS is always an emotive subject and it helps her to whip up more negative feeling and latent prejudice.
People are taken in.
Exactly this. The NHS budget is circa £110 billion next year. The estimated costs of immigrant use of the service are disputed but certainly sit somewhere between 1 & 2 billion, so less than 1 to 2% and that's before taking into account any tax & national insurance paid by those people within the existing structure, so is almost certain to be a lower number expressed as a percentage of the overall budget. But, it is much, much easier to pander to base prejudice & point fingers.People are taken in.
Papa Hotel said:
GTIR said:
Did you take the blue pill?
I don't know, I just don't know. Anyway, back on topic, I still fancy Katie Hopkins.
Katie, if you're reading this, and I believe that you are, you seem like the type to hungrily sniff out any snippet of online chat about yourself; I still fancy you. Let's be honest, I'm probably the last man to still fancy you. PM me princess, there's a good girl. See my posts from last year, that offer still stands. You'll like it when we get going.
captainzep said:
PAULJ5555 said:
She was not saying its immigrants fault, just that it contributes to the problem and that we have no more capacity going forward.
It's a tiny contributor, in the grand scheme of national NHS problems. As I said before, reducing immigration would have next to zero effect on the NHS. So why did she say it? -Because the NHS is always an emotive subject and it helps her to whip up more negative feeling and latent prejudice. People are taken in.
PAULJ5555 said:
Its still a tiny contributor that we can do without when services are maxed out already.
So let's recap. Katie Vacuous-Moron claimed that immigrants were having a significant adverse effect on the NHS system, but we've established that they're not really doing anything of the sort. Now we're down to the Tesco argument of "OK then, but every little helps". You're just as likely to be diagnosed, treated or cared for by an immigrant, (actively recruited overseas to deal with an enormous (indigenous, British) ageing or chronically ill population) as see an immigrant in the queue. Many immigrants are young, healthy and economically active, i.e. paying taxes.
Isn't she a woman that humped a colleague in a field and tipped off the press about it, because after all she is a woman.....
http://www.tcs.cam.ac.uk/comment/0032492-an-open-l...
http://www.tcs.cam.ac.uk/comment/0032492-an-open-l...
ChemicalChaos said:
I think we can have the last laugh, given that her advertising (or whatever it is) company has run in negative equity since it was set up 4 or 5 years ago.
What the fk does that even mean?ETA. Good god it's Mat777.
No explanation needed.
Edited by GTIR on Saturday 7th June 12:29
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