Evolution Vs Creation
Discussion
iphonedyou said:
PH is getting worse. Just feels like some god vs no god forum these days.
If somebody posted effectively the same thread repeatedly, every few days, the threads would be deleted. This guff should be no different.
It is terrible isn't it? You were forced to come into this thread, and you are forced to post. I don't know how you put up with it. If somebody posted effectively the same thread repeatedly, every few days, the threads would be deleted. This guff should be no different.
For your information this thread was started by a religious fellow, as he was struggling with the whole evolution topic on another thread, and wanted to palm it off into another tread.
Saying that, you have hardly started any threads of your own of late, so maybe you are the last person to criticise what people can, or cannot post about?
anonymous said:
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Typical religious person...try to debate with you and you just retract to some idiotic statements. You could be ashamed of you're religion because it was forced on you at an early age and you were to weak to reject some idiot cult. And now you cling onto it because its all you know and the possibility of rejection and the unknown frighten you so much you still believe in whatever spiel you've been spoon fed. Edited by tom2019 on Tuesday 13th August 23:44
TheHeretic said:
I'm genuinely not sure of your angle here. I wasn't aware we could create life, do you have a link to that?
If we did seed another planet, it matters not what they think. What does matter is that we would not be gods, and certainly not personal gods. The question of creation would still be as valid. What made the critters that made us? What made the critters that made the critters that made us, and so on...
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/10132762If we did seed another planet, it matters not what they think. What does matter is that we would not be gods, and certainly not personal gods. The question of creation would still be as valid. What made the critters that made us? What made the critters that made the critters that made us, and so on...
Edited by TheHeretic on Tuesday 13th August 21:57
Lots of research into Alife. It`s a big step from synthetic DNA to building a complex synthetic life form but a lot of the required building blocks are in place.
tom2019 said:
anonymous said:
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Typical religious person...try to debate with you and you just retract to some idiotic statements. You could be ashamed of you're religion because it was forced on you at an early age and you were to weak to reject some idiot cult. And now you cling onto it because its all you know and the possibility of rejection and the unknown frighten you so much you still believe in whatever spiel you've been spoon fed. Edited by tom2019 on Tuesday 13th August 23:44
No need to get angry!
You seem to be another one of those who thinks that they decide what other people believe and why they believe. Telling me why you think I 'believe' is not debate, you silly twit!
Oh and by the way your little assumption about me couldn't be any wider of the mark. But you like dinosaurs!
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 14th August 00:05
plasticpig said:
TheHeretic said:
I'm genuinely not sure of your angle here. I wasn't aware we could create life, do you have a link to that?
If we did seed another planet, it matters not what they think. What does matter is that we would not be gods, and certainly not personal gods. The question of creation would still be as valid. What made the critters that made us? What made the critters that made the critters that made us, and so on...
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/10132762If we did seed another planet, it matters not what they think. What does matter is that we would not be gods, and certainly not personal gods. The question of creation would still be as valid. What made the critters that made us? What made the critters that made the critters that made us, and so on...
Edited by TheHeretic on Tuesday 13th August 21:57
Lots of research into Alife. It`s a big step from synthetic DNA to building a complex synthetic life form but a lot of the required building blocks are in place.
TheHeretic said:
It is terrible isn't it? You were forced to come into this thread, and you are forced to post. I don't know how you put up with it.
For your information this thread was started by a religious fellow, as he was struggling with the whole evolution topic on another thread, and wanted to palm it off into another tread.
Saying that, you have hardly started any threads of your own of late, so maybe you are the last person to criticise what people can, or cannot post about?
Nobody forced me, in response to your cut and paste rebuttal to anybody expressing dissent towards a thread topic. I made fairly clear in my post that I wish the mods would lock repeat threads, like this one. Hence the post.For your information this thread was started by a religious fellow, as he was struggling with the whole evolution topic on another thread, and wanted to palm it off into another tread.
Saying that, you have hardly started any threads of your own of late, so maybe you are the last person to criticise what people can, or cannot post about?
'Palm it off into another thread', as you rather tellingly put it, is exactly what he's done. So we've yet another opportunity to run around in circles.
And, while I'm much too big and strong to become paranoid that you've been searching my posting history, perhaps you should just be grateful I exercise a little more restraint before starting a repetitive topic with a single word for the original post.
So in summation. - yes, quite terrible.
tom2019 said:
anonymous said:
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Im not angry i just think your an idiot. You enter a topic that is clearly a debate and all you do is come back with childish responses when a question is put to you.
t theory about why you think I believe what I believe, and all that comes from some bigoted preconceptions you already have towards religion. You've aimed it at me without even hearing what I have to say about my religion! So what, you've mouthed off about your opinion of why religious people are religious, how is that ANYTHING to do with this debate? Tommyboy, a childish boy like you deserves a childish response.mybrainhurts said:
Keep reading bits of this thread. Rather confusing. Would help to know what your religion is, old boy.
Why would it help? I've made points,they are written down for you to see, you either agree or disagree. Or perhaps it's a question of understand/don't understand.Argue the point, don't attack the man.
plasticpig said:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/10132762
Lots of research into Alife. It`s a big step from synthetic DNA to building a complex synthetic life form but a lot of the required building blocks are in place.
I'm not sure that inserting synthetic DNA into an already living cell can be defined as creating life. The whole subject of creation would suggest taking elements or compounds, and creating a living cell from those, rather that implanting synthetics into a living cell, if you see my point? We haven't created life, we have synthesised DNA. Very different. Lots of research into Alife. It`s a big step from synthetic DNA to building a complex synthetic life form but a lot of the required building blocks are in place.
And we've controlled that cell to replicate and to produce what we wanted, because of the DNA that we created. As said, others have worked on synthesising the binding structure of a cell. AFAIK nobody has gone the whole hog, yet! It isn't far off. It isn't out of the question therefore to suggest other beings have gone further and have seeded life on planets, life created artificially by design, revised naturally through evolution. They are God! But then, as you say there's the chicken and egg scenario of who is the creator's creator!
Perhaps the only answer to that could be the first being was created naturally through chance occurrence and evolution.
But that doesn't prove that we couldn't have been a result of a godlike race who created life.
Perhaps the only answer to that could be the first being was created naturally through chance occurrence and evolution.
But that doesn't prove that we couldn't have been a result of a godlike race who created life.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 14th August 00:56
anonymous said:
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No-one has said it isn't possible to seed other planets, or that we ourselves were seeded. That doesn't answer the question of creation, however, or the question of the origin of life, you just transpose that question one further step to what created the critters that created us. There is still no supernatural element. If we did manage to create new life, we would not be gods, we would simply be chemists, and biologists, and geneticists.
Again, no-one has said we cannot be the result of alien life seeding life on earth. That is not the question. The question is the origin of life, be that here, or elsewhere.
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