Evolution Vs Creation
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1. mutations to DNA happen, sex combines DNA of individuals
2. changes to DNA cause changes in the individual
3. these changes are either an advantage in reproduction and passed on, or are a disavantage and not
All observation & evidence in all our history, points to evolution by natural selection being correct.
Nothing showing "Creation" as being true has been seen, ever.
The 'big bang' has nothing do to with evolution.
Abiogenisis has nothing do to with evolution.
2. changes to DNA cause changes in the individual
3. these changes are either an advantage in reproduction and passed on, or are a disavantage and not
All observation & evidence in all our history, points to evolution by natural selection being correct.
Nothing showing "Creation" as being true has been seen, ever.
The 'big bang' has nothing do to with evolution.
Abiogenisis has nothing do to with evolution.
The interesting thing is that creationist will not actually pit forward a reasoned argument for their own ideas. Instead, they seem to think that rubbishing evolution, and science in general, will prove their claims. It does not. All the science in the world could be proved wrong tomorrow, and creationists will be no closer in proving their claims.
Creation or evolution?
Would we think less of ourselves if we were to have been one of the evolutionary stage 'revisions' of an organism artificially synthesised by an advanced being?
So not a result of a chance occurence in nature but a product, not even the intended product, just one one the developments of the initial product.
That would trouble those who follow or reject religion alike.
Would we think less of ourselves if we were to have been one of the evolutionary stage 'revisions' of an organism artificially synthesised by an advanced being?
So not a result of a chance occurence in nature but a product, not even the intended product, just one one the developments of the initial product.
That would trouble those who follow or reject religion alike.
TheHeretic said:
The interesting thing is that creationist will not actually pit forward a reasoned argument for their own ideas. Instead, they seem to think that rubbishing evolution, and science in general, will prove their claims. It does not. All the science in the world could be proved wrong tomorrow, and creationists will be no closer in proving their claims.
Finding a rabbit in the precambrian doesn't prove god.mybrainhurts said:
Never mind, my curiosity is of no consequence. Send my regards to your maker. Take care, he must be a little irked that you don't want the world to know you worship him.
Seek and you shall find!
(clue: very recent thread, religion based, clearly indicated, no shame).
TheHeretic said:
That is pretty much what I said, I think. It may disprove evolution, or at least play havoc with the fossil record, and Paleo-archeology, but to prove a creation claim it would take something entirely different.
I was just agreeing with you, using the often quoted meme.anonymous said:
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Your religion will determine what your general beliefs are, and what point of view you are coming from. I would say it was useful in a thread of this type. Perhaps you believe the planet you live on is only 10,000 years old, perhaps not.Regardless, I note not once in this thread have you, so far, said anything regarding evolution versus creation, just jumped on parts of other peoples' posts for no apparent reason other than you don't really like the subject matter.
Bibbs said:
1. mutations to DNA happen, sex combines DNA of individuals
2. changes to DNA cause changes in the individual
3. these changes are either an advantage in reproduction and passed on, or are a disavantage and not
All observation & evidence in all our history, points to evolution by natural selection being correct.
Nothing showing "Creation" as being true has been seen, ever.
The 'big bang' has nothing do to with evolution.
Abiogenisis has nothing do to with evolution.
Sorry, part 3; wrong.2. changes to DNA cause changes in the individual
3. these changes are either an advantage in reproduction and passed on, or are a disavantage and not
All observation & evidence in all our history, points to evolution by natural selection being correct.
Nothing showing "Creation" as being true has been seen, ever.
The 'big bang' has nothing do to with evolution.
Abiogenisis has nothing do to with evolution.
Besides, it is an absolute truth that there was a moment of creation where the primary organism came to be. Evolution and DNA is anything after that point. Nothing we understand about any of that has any bearing on what instigated that moment of creation, nothing we understand or know can prove whether a 'God' made that happen or not. And that gets to some of you. Throw away all the bible says, disprove the notion that we were created as we are, you still can't prove a God, in a form that we don't understand, could have set the ball rolling.
Night night!
It doesn't 'get' us at all. It just seems a pointless step to make, for me, anyway. Either way you are left with 'I don't know'.
Experiments into abiogenesis are very, very interesting. Far more interesting that assuming a supernatural power.
With regards to No. 3, he is right, however mutations that 'make no difference' will be passed on. These may come into play later, maybe.
Experiments into abiogenesis are very, very interesting. Far more interesting that assuming a supernatural power.
With regards to No. 3, he is right, however mutations that 'make no difference' will be passed on. These may come into play later, maybe.
rxtx said:
Your religion will determine what your general beliefs are, and what point of view you are coming from. I would say it was useful in a thread of this type. Perhaps you believe the planet you live on is only 10,000 years old, perhaps not.
Regardless, I note not once in this thread have you, so far, said anything regarding evolution versus creation, just jumped on parts of other peoples' posts for no apparent reason other than you don't really like the subject matter.
No. My points/arguments are clearly noted. It matters not one jot what my religious beliefs are. And you know why? If there's a point I've made that you don't agree with, counter it. Theheretic can manage it quite well. Its a tactic of the idiots who can't counter an argument to seize upon something else about the 'opposition' and beat them up with it. And what easier target than religion! Regardless, I note not once in this thread have you, so far, said anything regarding evolution versus creation, just jumped on parts of other peoples' posts for no apparent reason other than you don't really like the subject matter.
Tommyboy quite clearly showed his agenda when i pressed him. So no, i didn't jump on a worthwile part of anyone's post, i just dealt with someone trying a cheap trick.
And what of consequence have you to offer?
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