Women, and their understanding of the physical world ?

[Carthage]

Timmy35 said:

Believe me were you not it would not make the slightest difference.

as for "all the personal insults about you" er......what? All I did was explain why your oven idea is daft. That's not generally what I'd call a huge personal insult unless you have an exceptionally thin skin.

'Daft', 'no logical sense', 'throwing your toys out of your pram'.

I hope I've been more respectful - do call me on it, if you think I haven't.

[Timmy35]

Carthage said:

Timmy35 said:

Believe me were you not it would not make the slightest difference.

as for "all the personal insults about you" er......what? All I did was explain why your oven idea is daft. That's not generally what I'd call a huge personal insult unless you have an exceptionally thin skin.

'Daft', 'no logical sense', 'throwing your toys out of your pram'.

I hope I've been more respectful - do call me on it, if you think I haven't.

Well the idea you had ( and seemed so pleased with ) was daft, and makes no logical sense, and you did throw your toys out of the pram with all sorts of ranting when I pointed that out.

[Carthage]

Timmy35 said:

Well the idea you had ( and seemed so pleased with ) was daft, and makes no logical sense, and you did throw your toys out of the pram with all sorts of ranting when I pointed that out.

You are disputing the two points made in the post above regarding ovens?

I'm really not going to trade insults in a discussion - I'm more interested in facts.

[Timmy35]

Carthage said:

Timmy35 said:

Well the idea you had ( and seemed so pleased with ) was daft, and makes no logical sense, and you did throw your toys out of the pram with all sorts of ranting when I pointed that out.

You are disputing the two points made in the post above regarding ovens?

I'm really not going to trade insults in a discussion - I'm more interested in facts.

Okay, look I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, yes it's a really clever idea to make the oven hotter than required incase all the heat all escapes when you open the door. OK?

[Carthage]

Timmy35 said:

Okay, look I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, yes it's a really clever idea to make the oven hotter than required incase all the heat all escapes when you open the door. OK?

Your disrespect doesn't hurt my feelings: I don't know you.

And I appreciate that you are not disputing the point that heat escapes from an open oven door.

I would suggest, however that it is unlikely to be 'all the heat all escaping', merely enough to reduce the temperature below the preheated target.

And on that note, I think we've reached an agreement - have a nice weekend.

[mildmannered]

My wife will boil the kettle (filled) to fill a saucepan (for cooking pasta etc.)

Because it's quicker, I didn't realise it was a race?

But then proceeds, not use a saucepan lid..?

She will also add water to frozen veg before microwaving, then drain (I've given up trying to explain...)

[marsred]

Does my wife put the car aircon on 16deg to "get it cooler quicker" when first getting into a hot car because she's about to open the door again and let some hot air rush in? Or is she not gay and therefore stupid? I thought I understood the man/woman thing but this thread has just complicated EVERYTHING.

[robbieduncan]

mildmannered said:

My wife will boil the kettle (filled) to fill a saucepan (for cooking pasta etc.)

Because it's quicker, I didn't realise it was a race?

But then proceeds, not use a saucepan lid..?

She will also add water to frozen veg before microwaving, then drain (I've given up trying to explain...)

I boil the kettle before filling a pan too. It may not be a race but it is my time that I'm stood there waiting for it to boil.

[beko1987]

Agree with the heating thing!

Missus went to work one night, daughter was already at nannies, so I thought I'd sneak out to get some beer and pizza whilst she wasnt there.

Had to go to the village where she works, and thought I'd timed it right so she'd be at work. I drive into Chinnor, go around a corner, and she fecking pulls out behind me (been to see someone before work)

I look in the mirror expecting a wave, but nothing. Said nothing, carried on. When she got home I asked her where she had been.

After getting accused of spying and keeping tabs on her, and explaining why I was there, and getting told off for beer and pizza, I asked her why she didn't see me despite following me for half a mile and there not being any other citroen XM estates within fecking miles apart from mine!

'Oh, I didn't notice you, you should have waved...' 'Do you not look around when driving, you know, see what's happening?'

'Normally, but I was late for work' 'You'd been to see a friend, was your fault'...'Why were you getting beer and pizza?'

[LordLoveLength]

Right - back to ovens. What if the oven is on a conveyor belt?

[davhill]

doogz said:

What temperature was the oven at when it was cooked?

Why was the oven cooked?

[parakitaMol.]

My husband lit a bonfire by throwing petrol at it. Didn't figure the flame would follow him towards the can he was holding.

He's a man's woman. That's for sure.

[StescoG66]

we must be head scratchingly confusing/irritating/illogical to one another at times.

But know what - vive la difference. It makes life interesting. And for what its worth I think our womenfolk as a rule are wonderful. Just don't say it out loud . . . . . .

[djohnson]

My Mrs is generally a fairly bright individual, educated to degree (from the days when degrees meant something) etc. She is often far faster on the uptake than I and has held some pretty senior jobs. However despite me trying to explain she absolutely cannot get her mind around the climate control function in the car. You'd think it was pretty straight forward just to make sure it's all switched on and then just select desired temperature using one control and let the system provide either hot or cold air. However apparently not. I got into her car yesterday and was a bit warm, cc appeared to be on so turned the dial down a bit, nothing happens, investigate to discover that all vents on the dashboard are closed off because "...they only blow cold air and I wanted to be warmer so shut them....."

[Zoobeef]

I used to be fascinated by my ex. Left to her own devices she usually figured it out, if I had to explain something I'd only have to do it once and she'd get it and remember it. It made everything so easy! Apart from a lasting relationship that is haha.

As a side note. I turn my oven on and bang the food straight in. Then just check it when its near the time.

[Pothole]

counterofbeans said:

You people are lucky. My wife's mental, I'd take dumb every day of the week.

so you'd like her not to be able to speak. What about intelligence?

[andy_s]

kev b said:

My rolleyes action is where a woman whacks the temperature control up to maximum thinking it will warm up the car/house/cooker more quickly.

The look of uncomprehending contempt they give you when you try to explain is pretty dispiriting as well.

Yes, heating and ac in cars needs to be either on or off, that whole self regulating thermostat control just doesn't work it seems.

[rumpelstiltskin]

This has reminded me of something I often do with the misses.I'm always tinkering about with cars/bikes and often come up against really stubborn little problems.I usually find my own way round thm but sometimes when all hope is gone i'll just simply say to her indoors,what should I do here?
Inveriably she'll come out with some strange completely stupid suggestion but 9 times out of 10 whatever nonsense she spouts triggers some train of thought in me and makes me approach the problem again from another angle and I solve the problem??It happens so often it's scary,you should try it sometime,their weird logic sometimes works!

[jet_noise]

Dear r,

every Holmes needs their Watson

regards,
Jet

[xRIEx]

Carthage said:

Timmy35 said:

Flamed? All I did was explain to you why your idea of setting an oven to over temperature actually makes no logical sense. Hardly a flamingis it. It's just saying "look, that's a fairly daft idea what you've been doing" which is something that you seem unable to accept without chucking your toys out of the pram.

Apologies, I didn't realise you genuinely didn't understand that:
1. Ovens have thermostats which ensure that the heat set (for example 150) is reached during preheat, at which time there is usually a light signal.
2. If the oven door is opened, heat will escape (that's why we cook with them closed) thus reducing the temperature below the desired 150 and making it harder to accurately judge cooking times.

You may not care if you have to wait longer for your food, while the oven reheats, or you may prefer it undercooked. You may indeed be ninja-fast in your opening of the door and depositing the food.

Let's say the thermostat is set to 150 and the average temperature inside the oven drops to 130 when the door is opened and food placed inside; the food will be starting off at -15, 2-4 or 18-20 degrees depending on whether it is frozen, refrigerated or at room temperature. It will not immediately go to 130 (or 150) degrees, so the reduction in average temperature is immaterial to the cooking of the food.

Regarding cooking times, for all we know recipes/instructions allow for the negligible drop in oven temperature.