You find a suitcase with £1 million in it. What would you do

You find a suitcase with £1 million in it. What would you do

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Du1point8

21,606 posts

192 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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XJSJohn said:
Du1point8 said:
Flip Martian said:
That would be the other thing then. Have a few quid stashed about your person or luggage and spend it overseas? Repeated holidays abroad? If you had a few thousand in 50s in a wallet, that would be doable? I've never had my wallet looked at at an airport.
They would see it on the security scan and ask you.

Anymore than £10k would need to be declared.
Singapore issues a very handy $10,000 note for just this sort of purpose .... I am sure that the Singapore branch of DBS would be quite happy for you to do a bit of cash forex over a few weeks .. ...

very nice portable equivalent of a GBP500 note.

Buy a few nice expensive watches with a good resale value ...

Some diamonds loose in pocket... etc etc ...

all nice easy and portable ....

few trips out to SE Asia and Robert is your mothers brother ...
True but if the money is in the UK how do you do that? Many other countries you can just visit the crooked exchange people, not so much in the UK, does the UK have a singapore branch with no morales and will take the money?

XJSJohn

15,964 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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yes they have a UK branch and i am reliably informed that they don't have much by way of morals ...

Also, its pretty easy to buy stones for cash, and they are nice and portable ...

easy to distribute your now portable suitcase of cash that has been reduced

GBP250k can be moved in 500 notes ...

i have not been thinking much about this, honest .....

Du1point8

21,606 posts

192 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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XJSJohn said:
yes they have a UK branch and i am reliably informed that they don't have much by way of morals ...

Also, its pretty easy to buy stones for cash, and they are nice and portable ...

easy to distribute your now portable suitcase of cash that has been reduced

GBP250k can be moved in 500 notes ...

i have not been thinking much about this, honest .....
No of course you haven't... Bet you asked your accountant OH?

Just for advice of course.

XJSJohn

15,964 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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hehe


paperbag

how is Tricky??

Du1point8

21,606 posts

192 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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XJSJohn said:
hehe


paperbag

how is Tricky??
Good... still in London, must go across and visit singapore again to say hello, last time I was there was 2007 or so on my whistle stop tour of Bali and Borneo.

XJSJohn

15,964 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Du1point8 said:
XJSJohn said:
hehe


paperbag

how is Tricky??
Good... still in London, must go across and visit Singapore again to say hello, last time I was there was 2007 or so on my whistle stop tour of Bali and Borneo.
i moved north a few years ago to Bangkok, although thinking of heading back down to the equator later this year .... its no fun once they stop protesting in the streets !!1 hehe

Du1point8

21,606 posts

192 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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XJSJohn said:
Du1point8 said:
XJSJohn said:
hehe


paperbag

how is Tricky??
Good... still in London, must go across and visit Singapore again to say hello, last time I was there was 2007 or so on my whistle stop tour of Bali and Borneo.
i moved north a few years ago to Bangkok, although thinking of heading back down to the equator later this year .... its no fun once they stop protesting in the streets !!1 hehe
When did you get rid of the blue ruf rep?

I would have kept that for life.

XJSJohn

15,964 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Du1point8 said:
XJSJohn said:
Du1point8 said:
XJSJohn said:
hehe


paperbag

how is Tricky??
Good... still in London, must go across and visit Singapore again to say hello, last time I was there was 2007 or so on my whistle stop tour of Bali and Borneo.
i moved north a few years ago to Bangkok, although thinking of heading back down to the equator later this year .... its no fun once they stop protesting in the streets !!1 hehe
When did you get rid of the blue ruf rep?

I would have kept that for life.
when i busted the crap out of my left leg and couldn't handle the clutch any more ..... frown went yellow datsun, and now big thai spec pickup!

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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B17NNS said:
Out of interest how do criminals legitimise large sums of cash?
Kebab shops and Chinese takeaways are good examples of being high turnover cash (mainly) businesses.

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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BigBen said:
I hope that your estimates are correct, the mrs is opening a kiddies soft play centre any day now. Sadly we didn't find the suitcase to help with start up costs, then again I would say that.
Make sure it's kept clean. Most of the ones we've been to are pretty disgusting after a very short while.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Simples open a barbers or fried chicken place in the mid/suburban London like everyone else does who has this issue
£10 hair cut
3 x hair cuts an hour
8 x hours
3 x barbers
£200k a year

Do that for a few years, funnel the cash through, pay tax on all the profits and don't be too greedy or draw too much attention to yourself

If you fancy a bit of skirt, do a beauty salon/hairdressers/botox/sun beds, more profit but more people pay by card . Barbers is always all cash as is takeaways. You funnel the cash through slowly, so the only way you could get caught is by if someone recorded the footfall into the shop over one year.

After 5- 10 years sell the business on and retire on the profits (legit and elegit)



Cheib

23,217 posts

175 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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It's no urban myth about cash getting picked up in airport scanners. I once went through the scanner at City Aiport with £5000 in CHF's for a very legitimate reason (and luckily I had the receipt from Amex showing I had bought the CHF's from them). Got pulled into a side room and asked "are you carrying a large amount of cash sir " ? ....by a very nice policeman with a large gun.

Sadly I think it would be all too possible to lost £1mil in cash through daily spending etc

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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UK would be 'easy' to get rid over a period of time, but a guy here in Norway bought a TV for £2.5k cash and the shop called the cops on him who turnd up at his door. They have an utter obsession with financial and tax control so very few people use cash regularly.

Fastchas

2,644 posts

121 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Getting the cash OUT of the UK should be easy enough. Stash it in the new caravan you've just bought for your Mom & Dad, get them to take a ferry to Northern France or Bilbao, Spain. Meet them there and launder cash there. Somehow.
No-one on the docks checks Brian's & Eileen's Bailey Discovery on the way out, do they??

Greg_D

6,542 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Fastchas said:
Getting the cash OUT of the UK should be easy enough. Stash it in the new caravan you've just bought for your Mom & Dad, get them to take a ferry to Northern France or Bilbao, Spain. Meet them there and launder cash there. Somehow.
No-one on the docks checks Brian's & Eileen's Bailey Discovery on the way out, do they??
That's it, kick your dear old mom and dad under the bus, there's a good lad biggrinlaughrofl

Fastchas

2,644 posts

121 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Greg_D said:
Fastchas said:
Getting the cash OUT of the UK should be easy enough. Stash it in the new caravan you've just bought for your Mom & Dad, get them to take a ferry to Northern France or Bilbao, Spain. Meet them there and launder cash there. Somehow.
No-one on the docks checks Brian's & Eileen's Bailey Discovery on the way out, do they??
That's it, kick your dear old mom and dad under the bus, there's a good lad biggrinlaughrofl
Hmm...now I read that back to myself it looks like I'm employing mom & dad to be a mule.
Howabout if I ride in the back of the Volvo with them? Thereby reinforcing my belief it'll work.

Greg_D

6,542 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Fastchas said:
Greg_D said:
Fastchas said:
Getting the cash OUT of the UK should be easy enough. Stash it in the new caravan you've just bought for your Mom & Dad, get them to take a ferry to Northern France or Bilbao, Spain. Meet them there and launder cash there. Somehow.
No-one on the docks checks Brian's & Eileen's Bailey Discovery on the way out, do they??
That's it, kick your dear old mom and dad under the bus, there's a good lad biggrinlaughrofl
Hmm...now I read that back to myself it looks like I'm employing mom & dad to be a mule.
Howabout if I ride in the back of the Volvo with them? Thereby reinforcing my belief it'll work.
yes it does read like that, lol

As it happens, you could walk onto the ferry with a bulging holdall full of used tenners and noone would check.

Contrary to what others have said on here about scanners, it has been a friend's experience that customs can't find their arse with 2 hands when it comes to detecting incoming money in 'relatively' large amounts (certainly more than their rather arbitrary £10k limit) through busy airports.

As an aside, all things are relative, what right do customs have to ask you where you got £5/10k in cash? to many people that is walk around money and nothing even vaguely out of the ordinary, especially in the context of sunny holidays when you may buy some nice jewellery etc.

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Greg_D said:
yes it does read like that, lol

As it happens, you could walk onto the ferry with a bulging holdall full of used tenners and noone would check.

Contrary to what others have said on here about scanners, it has been a friend's experience that customs can't find their arse with 2 hands when it comes to detecting incoming money in 'relatively' large amounts (certainly more than their rather arbitrary £10k limit) through busy airports.

As an aside, all things are relative, what right do customs have to ask you where you got £5/10k in cash? to many people that is walk around money and nothing even vaguely out of the ordinary, especially in the context of sunny holidays when you may buy some nice jewellery etc.
The point is to try to confront money launderers, smugglers, tax evaders etc.

p1esk

4,914 posts

196 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Bring forward my plan for a new greenhouse.

Greg_D

6,542 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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RobinBanks said:
Greg_D said:
yes it does read like that, lol

As it happens, you could walk onto the ferry with a bulging holdall full of used tenners and noone would check.

Contrary to what others have said on here about scanners, it has been a friend's experience that customs can't find their arse with 2 hands when it comes to detecting incoming money in 'relatively' large amounts (certainly more than their rather arbitrary £10k limit) through busy airports.

As an aside, all things are relative, what right do customs have to ask you where you got £5/10k in cash? to many people that is walk around money and nothing even vaguely out of the ordinary, especially in the context of sunny holidays when you may buy some nice jewellery etc.
The point is to try to confront money launderers, smugglers, tax evaders etc.
but it doesn't, does it? it just annoys people with a few quid

Let's take an entirely fictitious scenario - So let's say someone were to take £20k of legitimate funds from a uk bank and put it in the safe at home, go on hols with the receipt from the bank but not the money, 'find' £20k whilst on hols and return with it and the receipt (having not bought the jewellery they were intent on getting, officer) what are customs going to say about that?

safe money goes back to bank and holiday money goes into safe, easy!!!

it is so laughably easy to come up with any number of different legitimate scenarios as to make an utter mockery of the money laundering regs. They may as well not bother!!!