Stop saying "Demond" !!!

[mybrainhurts]

Slightly wrong slotting here, but something just occurred to me.

Q...Why do Americans say they're in line, not queuing?

A...Try saying queuing with an American accent.

Same applies to nuclear and aluminium.

[Europa1]

mybrainhurts said:

Slightly wrong slotting here, but something just occurred to me.

Q...Why do Americans say they're in line, not queuing?

A...Try saying queuing with an American accent.

Same applies to nuclear and aluminium.

They also pronounce "mirror" in a decidedly odd way.

[Impasse]

Europa1 said:

They also pronounce "mirror" in a decidedly odd way.

The Licence Plate said Fresh and it had dice in the Murrr.

[227bhp]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

I googled and can find only one other reference on PH (http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing//topic.asp?h=0&f=141&t=279307&i=20&mid=0&nmt=%27AN%27+before+U+words.......)

"an ouse"

Yes, I realise it is a local dialect.
But surely they have schools in that part of England?
At least some of these people must have televisions and/or occasionally go to the cinema?
How can they not realise by now that they are the only few thousand people on the entire planet that believe the 'h' in house is silent?

Or is it a bit like the 'Welsh thing' where belligerence towards conformity is 9/10s of the language?

Local dialect to where in particular?

[Goaty Bill 2]

mybrainhurts said:

Slightly wrong slotting here, but something just occurred to me.

Q...Why do Americans say they're in line, not queuing?

A...Try saying queuing with an American accent.

Same applies to nuclear and aluminium.

I don't think I had ever heard or read the word queuing until I arrived in the UK, and then it was only learned from the context of usage.
It sounded so strange to me that I only became comfortable with it's use after I started working with and developing queuing systems in a software development context (quite a few years back now) and was forced to use it to be understood.

It is in much more common use now in North America, and I was surprised to have heard it from Canadian acquaintances and friends while speaking on the phone just a few years ago.

Aluminium and aluminum.
According to a turn of the century dictionary I found (circa 1898 / 1901);
Aluminum: The same as aluminium, but no longer in common use.

According to the wiki article, that may well not be true, but 115 years ago (and even 30 years ago when I read this definition), one trusted to paper dictionaries.
When questioned, my father who was a journeyman engineer in his early career, was familiar with 'aluminium' only through his personal research into antique and vintage cars, where he came across the spelling in British publications.
He does not recall it ever being called/spelled aluminium in North America.

[ManFromDelmonte]

Almost 2 years since I first saw this thread and I've still never heard anyone say Demond.

[Eric Mc]

He left "Grandstand" years ago.

[schmunk]

ManFromDelmonte said:

Almost 2 years since I first saw this thread and I've still never heard anyone say Demond.

Here you go...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPC4FnZtuMk

[Goaty Bill 2]

227bhp said:

Goaty Bill 2 said:

"an ouse"

Local dialect to where in particular?

Not certain precisely as it's not commonly heard in southern areas, and only overheard in someone else's conversation and on television.
Would have guessed Yorkshire by the accent.

[227bhp]

Europa1 said:

They also pronounce "mirror" in a decidedly odd way.

Mirrrrrrr
The war on Terrrrrrrrrrr

Americans are thick, that's why they've had to dumb down our language - so they can understand it.

[227bhp]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

227bhp said:

Goaty Bill 2 said:

"an ouse"

Local dialect to where in particular?

Not certain precisely as it's not commonly heard in southern areas, and only overheard in someone else's conversation and on television.
Would have guessed Yorkshire by the accent.

I can't think of any area that pronounces 'ouse with an H in front, the only people who would say it like this would be reet posh n that and what particular area do they reside in?

Yorkshire: 'ouse
Manchester/Liverpool: 'ouse
Birmingham: 'ouse
Essex/Landan: 'arse

Is your post serious? Surely not, you are really suggesting that after a trip to the cinema or watching TV that a local dialect will be lost and you start to speak perfect Queen's English with no regional accent?
I'm assuming there is some of that there tongue-in-cheek st going down here, no-one can be so daft!

[Meteor Madness]

I thought the chorus of this great Bunnymen song was "Demond! Demond!".

[br d]

uuf361 said:

Fane said:

My niece is from the Surrey / Hampshire hinterland. Most of her accent is the usual mockney / estuary english, but the bit that I can't fathom is her pronunciation of the word "no" (which, being a teenager, she says a lot). In her world, "no" rhymes with "soy" (as in the sauce). Never heard it anywhere else...

Does she watch Home & Away or Neighbours? Could be from there?!

When my partners little sister was a yoof her and her mates used to say "Noy doyn't" for "No don't", rhyming with Soy Point. It used to drive me insane.

[FRA53R]

Having trawled my way through the thread, I have yet to see either of my main pet hates mentioned.

1. Liquor-ish when pronouncing liquorice.

2. Kwassont when pronouncing croissant.

I realise that I may be about to encounter an online ststorm with my first suggestion, however, not one person has ever been able to explain why it should be ish instead of iss.

I believe the bdisation of croissant to be laziness, similar to saying sammich.

[Hugo a Gogo]

how do you pronounce croissant?

[Goaty Bill 2]

227bhp said:

I can't think of any area that pronounces 'ouse with an H in front, the only people who would say it like this would be reet posh n that and what particular area do they reside in?

Yorkshire: 'ouse
Manchester/Liverpool: 'ouse
Birmingham: 'ouse
Essex/Landan: 'arse

err...
Are you suggesting that pronouncing house with the 'h' is "reet posh"?
Or am I being a bit slow?

I am very familiar with the demise of the leading haitch in regional English pronunciations of many words, though not at all practised personally in the implementation.
Coming from me it would most certainly be interpreted as stealing the urine so to speak.
It is simply that for most people I have the acquaintance of who may be inclined to pronounce house as 'ouse', when saying 'a house' the 'h' seems to magically reappear, and is pronounced as 'a house' rather than 'an ouse'.

227bhp said:

Is your post serious? Surely not, you are really suggesting that after a trip to the cinema or watching TV that a local dialect will be lost and you start to speak perfect Queen's English with no regional accent?
I'm assuming there is some of that there tongue-in-cheek st going down here, no-one can be so daft!

No more or less serious than the average post in this thread I am sure
For my own part, I doubt I will ever manage perfect Queen's English, but with practise one moves forward.
My accent has been described (as best I can) in a previous post.

There would be little point in these types of threads with out some tongue-in-cheek would there?

[FRA53R]

Hugo a Gogo said:

how do you pronounce croissant?

Good question, I pronounce it cruh-sant with a silent t. It's quite difficult to explain without saying it. There's certainly no w anywhere near it.

[SpeckledJim]

Krwasson

[227bhp]

SpeckledJim said:

Krwasson

Nope:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcW1mO2xJPw

I bet you're one of those who goes to 'lee Man's'

[Impasse]

FRA53R said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

how do you pronounce croissant?

Good question, I pronounce it cruh-sant with a silent t. It's quite difficult to explain without saying it. There's certainly no w anywhere near it.

How do you pronounce Paris?