Company books from 1913, how to preserve?

Company books from 1913, how to preserve?

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oilandwater

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1,408 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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I have our Company books from 1913, they are fascinating to read, but I'm not sure how best to keep them. I have a food vacuum sealer, should I use that, or just keep them in the old supermarket plastic bags they have been in for the past year or so?
Any advise please.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

242 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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I don't know anything about preservation, I'm afraid, but have you considered scanning them?


abbotsmike

1,033 posts

145 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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I'd be going down the scan and digitise route personally to preserve the information. I'm sure there are many people better placed than I to advise on how to keep the original copies in good condition.

oilandwater

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190 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Thank you, I have copied some interesting pages already, good idea to scan. Can't beat looking at the original books though.

theguvernor

629 posts

131 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Vacuum bags from Dunelm Mill or Argos?

The Beaver King

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195 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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I'm not an expert, but food vacuum bags sound like a decent idea.

It's usually moisture that destroys books, so anything that minimises that has got to be a good idea. Also, you could look to have them stored in a cool, dark room. Has the company got a server room? That should be perfect.

oilandwater

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theguvernor said:
Vacuum bags from Dunelm Mill or Argos?
Well I've got a vacuum machine, but will they be better vacuumed or not? There is a small amount of mould on them, will this increase if I do?

marshalla

15,902 posts

201 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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OP- have a look at this advice from the British Library : http://www.bl.uk/blpac/pdf/damaged.pdf

oilandwater

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Thursday 24th April 2014
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The Beaver King said:
I'm not an expert, but food vacuum bags sound like a decent idea.

It's usually moisture that destroys books, so anything that minimises that has got to be a good idea. Also, you could look to have them stored in a cool, dark room. Has the company got a server room? That should be perfect.
They have been in a cold metal filing cabinet, in the dark, but in a plastic bag.

oilandwater

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Thursday 24th April 2014
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marshalla said:
OP- have a look at this advice from the British Library : http://www.bl.uk/blpac/pdf/damaged.pdf
That's fantastic thank you, I have some reading to do.
I owe you a drink.

threesixty

2,068 posts

203 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Vacuum bags are not a good idea, you're basically just creating a little greenhouse for things to live in.

Ideally they need to be cleaned and then stored in an acid free box at a constant humidity (50% ideally) and temperature.

However modern inks like the ones in your books are pretty crap they're going to deteriorate over time so as others have said you'll want to digitise them. Be careful of damaging the spine if you're using a regular scanner. A much better option is to use a digitisation service, they'll have machines that can do 300 page books in a couple of minutes and they'll not do any damage to the books.


johnnywgk

2,579 posts

182 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Not an expert but I think stick them in an airing cupboard
for a month, upright with pages fanned out and move the pages every day
to dry them out.

If you know a TIG welder use the food bags but fill them with his/her Argon gas,(It's inert) shake a little. The oxigen will rise leaving the Argon gas. (Argon heavier than the stuff we breathe).

Oxigen and moisture are our greatest enemies for preservation, as far as I know. Trust me, I have a TVR. lol.

This info might be crap, and I'm drunk (again) but I re-read it and it makes sense to me.

Also, I fink oxigen is spelt oxygen.

Please let me know if you think I've lost the plot.



Not the Moose


Ps digi them, as said above.


Edited by johnnywgk on Thursday 24th April 14:54


Edited by johnnywgk on Thursday 24th April 15:12

telecat

8,528 posts

241 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Now if you really want to store books.....


http://www.capitasymonds.co.uk/projects/all_projec...

oilandwater

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1,408 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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johnnywgk said:
Not an expert but I think stick them in an airing cupboard
for a month, upright with pages fanned out and move the pages every day
to dry them out.

If you know a TIG welder use the food bags but fill them with his/her Argon gas,(It's inert) shake a little. The oxigen will rise leaving the Argon gas. (Argon heavier than the stuff we breathe).

Oxigen and moisture are our greatest enemies for preservation, as far as I know. Trust me, I have a TVR. lol.

This info might be crap, and I'm drunk (again) but I re-read it and it makes sense to me.

Also, I fink oxigen is spelt oxygen.

Please let me know if you think I've lost the plot.



Not the Moose


Ps digi them, as said above.


Edited by johnnywgk on Thursday 24th April 14:54


Edited by johnnywgk on Thursday 24th April 15:12
Not lost the plot, haha, that's spot on I think.
I will get my welder, son, with his gas!
Thank you.

Zerotonine

1,171 posts

174 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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If you want them scanned professionally, give Simon at DA Archives a shout. He is a good man who will be able to help.

oilandwater

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Thursday 24th April 2014
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Zerotonine said:
If you want them scanned professionally, give Simon at DA Archives a shout. He is a good man who will be able to help.
Thank you.

johnnywgk

2,579 posts

182 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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oilandwater said:
Not lost the plot, haha, that's spot on I think.
I will get my welder, son, with his gas!
Thank you.
Make sure It's an inert (sp) gas, they do nothing (yes I'm even more pzzzzzzzd)

This probably took me 10 hours to type, you owe me your life, lol.

Oxygen and Co2 (I cant remember)


You could probably keep chicken, fish in Argon and it would prob be good in 100 years.

I,ve now got an Idea for the wife. Don,t tell the police.