Lottery is a bit crap

Lottery is a bit crap

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wiliferus

4,060 posts

198 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Pork said:
Someone in Portugal is waking up to a very nice problem.
Christ, you could probably buy Portugal with that much cash.

boxst

3,716 posts

145 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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I won £2.90. Yah.

soad

32,890 posts

176 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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fk all for me, 1x main number and 1x lucky star matched.

MegaMillions is $252 million. Cash Option: $153 million! eek

KingNothing

3,168 posts

153 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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soad said:
fk all for me, 1x main number and 1x lucky star matched.

MegaMillions is $252 million. Cash Option: $153 million! eek
confused You lose nearly $100 million by taking it as cash? What's the other options, an annual payout?

soad

32,890 posts

176 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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KingNothing said:
confused You lose nearly $100 million by taking it as cash? What's the other options, an annual payout?
Difference Between Cash Value and Annuity

If you win a Mega Millions jackpot, you will choose how to be paid: Cash Option or Annual Payout. Prize claim parameters vary from state to state. Contact your Mega Millions lottery for detailed information.

Annuity option: The Mega Millions annuity is paid out as one immediate payment followed by 29 annual payments. Each payment is 5% bigger than the previous one. We used to pay the jackpot in equal installments, but players expressed concern that the cost of living would be increasing while their payments were not. We changed to payments that increase each year to help protect winners’ lifestyle and purchasing power.

For a typical jackpot of $50 million, the initial payment would be more than $750,000, and future annual payments would grow to almost $3.1 million.

When the jackpot is $100 million, each payment is twice as big. When the jackpot is $25 million, each payment is half as big, etc.

Cash option: A one-time, lump-sum payment that is equal to the cash in the Mega Millions jackpot prize pool.

Pork

9,453 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Last nights Lotto underlines why I don't bother any more.

Jackpot odds are 13,983,815 to 1 - prize £7m
5 + Bonus, odds are 2,330,635 to 1 - prize is £47k.

Don't get me wrong, £47k would be lovely, but at £2 a line and odds of 2.3m to 1, that's just garbage. There was a time you'd clear a decent mortgage with 5+bonus. But hey, you win £25 if you get three numbers!

Whoop whoop.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,342 posts

150 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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The prize for 5+ bonus ball was actually £187K, but 4 people shared it.
5 of the 6 numbers we 31 or under, so that always lessens the amount you win because you end up sharing it.

As I keep saying, go for numbers 32+. That way you get rid of all the sheeple who use family birthdays as their numbers. You have the same chance of winning, but you get to keep the lot!

turbobloke

103,911 posts

260 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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It's a bit off-topic as this is Canada but the lottery might seem carp for one guy who probably won't be playing '7 seconds away' any time soon. The man with the ticket which Neneh Cherry's song could have been written for is Joel Ifergan.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/7-seconds-too-late-sc...

Just make sure you buy your tickets in the right order people, always get the winning one first wink when in Canada obviously.

gwm

2,390 posts

144 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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turbobloke said:
It's a bit off-topic as this is Canada but the lottery might seem carp for one guy who probably won't be playing '7 seconds away' any time soon. The man with the ticket which Neneh Cherry's song could have been written for is Joel Ifergan.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/7-seconds-too-late-sc...

Just make sure you buy your tickets in the right order people, always get the winning one first wink when in Canada obviously.
The guy's trying to crowdfund to cover his legal fees as well, what a tool.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/man-who-missed-jackpo...

Rich_W

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12,548 posts

212 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Thought of this thread now that the Lottery has changed to 59 balls instead of 49.

Personally, I've stopped playing (and I played ever since 1994!) And just put the money into extra EuroMillions lines.

Noticed 3 things from Camelots site though.

1) That it hasn't come close to being won since the change. If it rolls and rolls up to the maximum, will people become disheartened that it's become "unwinnable" (Euros despite longer odds, tends to get won every 5-10 rollovers. I suspect more players per draw helps that.)
2) 5+1 was £50k to each of the 2 winners. Sure it used to be higher on 49 balls.
3) The Euro's also rolled over and they've estimated jackpot at £15M when it will almost certainly be nearer £20m. Feel that's a abit of spin to make normal Lottery look more enticing!

43034

2,963 posts

168 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Just cancelled my DD for the Lotto. Unsure what to put in its place. Health Lotto, Postcode? Maybe even the Irish! Time to have a read and see.

mattyn1

5,753 posts

155 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Don't do what I did and invest in Ladbrokes! I did a four thingy accumulator, Australia, Ireland, Wales and France!

I really am not very good at this betting lark,

smile

robinessex

11,057 posts

181 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Just to spell it out, and counter Camelots bks, to get back to the cost/odds of the original ticket, you now need to spend almost 6.44 times as much to hit the jackpot number! Now that's a bargin I'm sure.

Speed_Demon

2,662 posts

188 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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1/15 million to 1/49 million roughly is the change in odds now they've added the extra numbers.

robinessex

11,057 posts

181 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Speed_Demon said:
1/15 million to 1/49 million roughly is the change in odds now they've added the extra numbers.
Almost correct. They've increased the odds from 1:13,983,816 to 1:45,057,474. which is a factor of 3.222

But the ticket price has doubled. So, whereas initialy it cost me £1 for a ticket with odds of 1:13,983,816, it now cost effectively £6.44

GroundEffect

13,835 posts

156 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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At 1:14M it was a sure thing!

Sorry, but it's idiocy...

Hub

6,432 posts

198 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Rich_W said:
1) That it hasn't come close to being won since the change. If it rolls and rolls up to the maximum, will people become disheartened that it's become "unwinnable" (Euros despite longer odds, tends to get won every 5-10 rollovers. I suspect more players per draw helps that.)
I expect they have statistics to show that people are enticed by higher jackpots, and they sell more tickets when there is a rollover.

robinessex

11,057 posts

181 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Lots of people playing with small amounts is better than the occasional syndicate speculating on the occasional rollover, that isn't a good plan. Area under the graph and all that. People soon see through all the hype.

Pork

9,453 posts

234 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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Hub said:
I expect they have statistics to show that people are enticed by higher jackpots, and they sell more tickets when there is a rollover.
Camelot claim people want the smaller prizes!

To my mind, the lotto was broken by paying £25 as a minimum prize. Personally, I'd rather it was still a tenner or every a fiver and the balance went to the top 2 or 3 prize pools. None of the odds are good on Lotto but the 5+1 prize is ludicrous! £30k for odds of something like 1:7.5m.

I think the decline in sales will continue. Most people know the lotto isn't a great bet, but since the non-jackpot prizes have been messed up, it's underlined quite how terrible it is. I've got tickets for this draw, but one the jackpot is won, I'm out for good.

Incidentally, apparently the odds of becoming a millionaire is now less - around 1:10m. If you live in the SE and are a PHer, that probably means you'll be able to pay your mortgage down a bit!

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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Pork said:
Camelot claim people want the smaller prizes!
Bit of a strange position considering they have made the odds of winning a smaller prize worse (in the case of £25 for 3 numbers it has gone from 57:1 to 97:1).