Lottery is a bit crap

Lottery is a bit crap

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anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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has anyone claimed yet.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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Pork said:
TTmonkey said:
Aren't they giving away 10 £1mil raffle prizes this weekend also? MAybe that's their thinking?
Five, I think.

And without to be big spuds. I think £66m has a much greater alure than £1m and wouldn't expect 5 x £1m prizes to cause the frenzy (Maria and ticket buying) that last weeks draw cause.

I'm with the guy above, I'm out of Lotto now. I will but a ticket when it reaches £50m again but considering I can't remember the last time I had anything other than a worthless lucky dip, it's lost its appeal to me - they've broken it.
yep me too. they've managed to convince a hopeless dreamer that their scheme is too bad to invest in. bunch of utter tards.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,406 posts

151 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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TTmonkey said:
yep me too. they've managed to convince a hopeless dreamer that their scheme is too bad to invest in.
You're obviously not a hopeless dreamer then. If you were truly a hopeless dreamer, you'd carry on playing regardless of how bad the odds were. You were just a dreamer.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
TTmonkey said:
yep me too. they've managed to convince a hopeless dreamer that their scheme is too bad to invest in.
You're obviously not a hopeless dreamer then. If you were truly a hopeless dreamer, you'd carry on playing regardless of how bad the odds were. You were just a dreamer.
must try to be more hopeless.

Seems an easy thing.

Sheepshanks

32,806 posts

120 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
ikarl said:
news channels were running constantly saying how impossible it was to win,
There's a big difference between impossible and extremely unlikely.
Is there? One of my colleagues asserts you've got nearly the same chance of winning if you don't enter!

TwigtheWonderkid

43,406 posts

151 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
ikarl said:
news channels were running constantly saying how impossible it was to win,
There's a big difference between impossible and extremely unlikely.
Is there? One of my colleagues asserts you've got nearly the same chance of winning if you don't enter!
He obviously can't tell the difference between very small and non existent.

Pork

9,453 posts

235 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
Is there? One of my colleagues asserts you've got nearly the same chance of winning if you don't enter!
to be fair, he's got a point. You've got no chance if you don't buy a ticket, but if you do, there's a 0.00000002% chance if scooping the jackpot.

You could argue it's nearly the same but it's not, it's hugely different. Ask a jackpot winner how huge the difference is. smile

Butter Face

30,340 posts

161 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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If that was me, I'd be driving the damn ticket to Camelots head office myself. No way I'd be sending the damn thing anywhere.

Digger

14,699 posts

192 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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I'm assuming that every ticket purchased from a retailer has the retailer i.d. & address logged on Camelot's systems? So if her story matches up those details she could be a very lucky lady!

Don1

15,951 posts

209 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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Digger said:
I'm assuming that every ticket purchased from a retailer has the retailer i.d. & address logged on Camelot's systems? So if her story matches up those details she could be a very lucky lady!
Yes.

V8LM

5,174 posts

210 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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A bit of surface analysis (ambient MS imaging, confocal Raman, etc) would help here.

Rich_W

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12,548 posts

213 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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Camelot have to be careful here.

If the ticket is beyond proving either way, but a CCTV shows her buying it and their system shows it was the winning ticket.

THEN IMO

They should NOT pay out. Rules are simple! Ticket is your proof. Nothing else!


Or they will be getting all manner of scammers trying it on for the smaller £25-£10000 prizes.

ikarl

3,730 posts

200 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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Rich_W said:
Camelot have to be careful here.

If the ticket is beyond proving either way, but a CCTV shows her buying it and their system shows it was the winning ticket.

THEN IMO

They should NOT pay out. Rules are simple! Ticket is your proof. Nothing else!


Or they will be getting all manner of scammers trying it on for the smaller £25-£10000 prizes.
It's not about trying it on for smaller prizes, you need more than just a good story to make a claim, you need to know where, when and have some kind of evidence....I'm sure it's on the lottery site somewhere (or at least it was). It just wouldn't be worthwhile unless it was a big prize and even then, there will be adequate checks in place before they pay out

If this woman has bought the ticket and accidentally washed it, and it is beyond a doubt that she bought it and it was the winner....she should get the money IMO

Pork

9,453 posts

235 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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If she's said to them "I bought it at this shop, about this time, with these other items, x lines and here's a CCTV and the remains of my ticket", then I think it should be paid. Surely even s couple of numbers from the barcode could support/deny?

If, however, Camelot have realeased info like the shop it was bought in and the time, which I don't think they have, then id say they could make enough evidence.

I'm assuming the ticket holder has published where and when it was bought, not Camelot.

Good luck to her if it's genuine. If not, and the real ticket holder comes forward, I hope the law throws the book at her.

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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The Sun really don't seem to believe her
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6886501/...

Intriguing that Camelot have had hundreds of claims, if so, how and why have the media seized particularly on just Dodgy Sue's jeans story?

They do seem to have confirmed the precise shop that the winning ticket was bought at, but not the time or the day. Camelot have to have that information from their lottery till machine transaction logs, otherwise their system is utterly not fit for purpose (but then again, their website is a joke of unreliability after all, so nothing would surprise me). Suspect that their questions to "claimants" about their lost ticket include when it was bought (exact date and rough time), lucky dip or specific numbers, how many lines, how many draws total were on the ticket etc; all information that a genuine buyer would easily know. However I imagine they don't actually confirm to any of the claimants whether their answers match or not, otherwise with 500 or more people trying different answers it might be possible to eliminate a lot of the options.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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This 400 claim is a bit of a non story really.

Millions of tickets were sold. The odds are that a number of people will lose/mislay/throw away/destroy/damage their ticket every single draw.

Once Camelot announced that the ticket still hadn't been claimed after a few days, nationwide desperate people would be looking for that ticket that they've mislaid etc. Nothing to do with Worcester at this time. Every fekwit that couldn't find their ticket would be on the phone saying ' think its me'.

They may not be lying or cheating, they are just not right. And many of them will have lost their tickets, and maybe even some of them may have had minor prizes. Of course there may be a few dimwits that have decided to try to lie, but they will soon be weeded out.

But only one has actually likely lost the jackpot ticket. German Sue as they call her, if she lives in Worcester, is more likely to be the person than most of the others.

Mr Trophy

6,808 posts

204 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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See for the tickets that go "unclaimed" are these where people have bought a ticket, rather than going online to get a ticket? IE, walked into a shop!?

Pork

9,453 posts

235 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Mr Trophy said:
See for the tickets that go "unclaimed" are these where people have bought a ticket, rather than going online to get a ticket? IE, walked into a shop!?
Something like 90% of tickets are 'retail', I.e. Shops, not on line. If you win online and don't claim, they call you. A lady recently won £1m online and didn't check so had a call from Camelot. It's on their website.