Lottery is a bit crap

Lottery is a bit crap

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SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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V8LM said:
SpeckledJim said:
Pork said:
Re consecutive numbers, I read about lottery numbers for a subject at Uni and consecutive numbers are very common. Selecting them is one of many ways of improving your chances of winning, apparently.
But did you pass the re-sit?
I think there are only 270 725 numbers out of the 45M that do not have consecutive numbers.
Good factoid!

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Butter Face said:
Hopefully she gets prosecuted for attempted fraud!
She has never claimed to have the winning ticket. Shes been quite clear about this. She said something along the lines of " ive washed this ticket, could it be the one your looking for?".... rather than saying "this IS the ticket". SHe hasn't lodged an official claim etc.

You cant be accused of something for just asking a question.


grannie Hinte said:
'Not once have I said I have the winning ticket. The ticket did have the winning numbers on it. Camelot will do the checks so as it stands nobody knows if it's the winner.'
Edited by TTmonkey on Thursday 28th January 12:33

TwigtheWonderkid

43,363 posts

150 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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TTmonkey said:
She has never claimed to have the winning ticket. Shes been quite clear about this. She said something along the lines of " ive washed this ticket, could it be the one your looking for?".... rather than saying "this IS the ticket". SHe hasn't lodged an official claim etc.

You cant be accused of something for just asking a question.
The ticket had the correct numbers. So if it wasn't the winning ticket, it was bought after the event. Then deliberately doctored to lose the identity number and date etc.

The intension was clearly to obtain money by deception. That's fraud.





TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
TTmonkey said:
She has never claimed to have the winning ticket. Shes been quite clear about this. She said something along the lines of " ive washed this ticket, could it be the one your looking for?".... rather than saying "this IS the ticket". SHe hasn't lodged an official claim etc.

You cant be accused of something for just asking a question.
The ticket had the correct numbers. So if it wasn't the winning ticket, it was bought after the event. Then deliberately doctored to lose the identity number and date etc.

The intension was clearly to obtain money by deception. That's fraud.
Only fraud if you make an official claim.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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kev1974 said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3419584/Lo...

"Lottery investigators 'have decided grandmother who claimed £33million ticket was ruined in the wash is NOT the jackpot winner' "
Jees.

That's got Council written all over it

TwigtheWonderkid

43,363 posts

150 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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TTmonkey said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
TTmonkey said:
She has never claimed to have the winning ticket. Shes been quite clear about this. She said something along the lines of " ive washed this ticket, could it be the one your looking for?".... rather than saying "this IS the ticket". SHe hasn't lodged an official claim etc.

You cant be accused of something for just asking a question.
The ticket had the correct numbers. So if it wasn't the winning ticket, it was bought after the event. Then deliberately doctored to lose the identity number and date etc.

The intension was clearly to obtain money by deception. That's fraud.
Only fraud if you make an official claim.
Link to the law on that?



V8LM

5,174 posts

209 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Pork

9,453 posts

234 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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V8LM said:
Excellent, good luck to them! Great that they're staying anonymous but it would be interesting to know how the delay came about. "Just couldn't be bothered checking as I knew the chance was next to nowt"


Butter Face

30,302 posts

160 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
TTmonkey said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
TTmonkey said:
She has never claimed to have the winning ticket. Shes been quite clear about this. She said something along the lines of " ive washed this ticket, could it be the one your looking for?".... rather than saying "this IS the ticket". SHe hasn't lodged an official claim etc.

You cant be accused of something for just asking a question.
The ticket had the correct numbers. So if it wasn't the winning ticket, it was bought after the event. Then deliberately doctored to lose the identity number and date etc.

The intension was clearly to obtain money by deception. That's fraud.
Only fraud if you make an official claim.
Link to the law on that?
I'd like to see that link too.

Surely she has made a 'valid claim' by going to Camelot with that ticket and saying she washed it but thinks it's the winning one is a 'valid claim'?


TwigtheWonderkid

43,363 posts

150 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Butter Face said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
TTmonkey said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
TTmonkey said:
She has never claimed to have the winning ticket. Shes been quite clear about this. She said something along the lines of " ive washed this ticket, could it be the one your looking for?".... rather than saying "this IS the ticket". SHe hasn't lodged an official claim etc.

You cant be accused of something for just asking a question.
The ticket had the correct numbers. So if it wasn't the winning ticket, it was bought after the event. Then deliberately doctored to lose the identity number and date etc.

The intension was clearly to obtain money by deception. That's fraud.
Only fraud if you make an official claim.
Link to the law on that?
I'd like to see that link too.

Surely she has made a 'valid claim' by going to Camelot with that ticket and saying she washed it but thinks it's the winning one is a 'valid claim'?
Exactly. "This might be the winning ticket" when she knows damn well it isn't is an attempt to obtain money by deception.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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claimed with ticket lol

edit posted already

Edited by The Spruce goose on Thursday 28th January 16:30

graham22

3,295 posts

205 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Pork said:
V8LM said:
Excellent, good luck to them! Great that they're staying anonymous but it would be interesting to know how the delay came about. "Just couldn't be bothered checking as I knew the chance was next to nowt"
Agree, interesting to hear why two week delay in claiming, could understand if just any other draw but there was plenty of publicity about the amount involved.

Would also love to seen the reaction when they realised they have won too.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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graham22 said:
Agree, interesting to hear why two week delay in claiming, could understand if just any other draw but there was plenty of publicity about the amount involved.

Would also love to seen the reaction when they realised they have won too.
been on holiday?


TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Exactly. "This might be the winning ticket" when she knows damn well it isn't is an attempt to obtain money by deception.
She says she's never made a claim. She said she had a ticket which had been washed, and she asked Camelot if it was the winning ticket. She apparently never made an official claim that the ticket was the winning ticket. Which I think is probably enough to stop her being prosecuted. Lack of evidence. To attempt to defraud the lottery you have to make a claim.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,363 posts

150 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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TTmonkey said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Exactly. "This might be the winning ticket" when she knows damn well it isn't is an attempt to obtain money by deception.
She says she's never made a claim. She said she had a ticket which had been washed, and she asked Camelot if it was the winning ticket. She apparently never made an official claim that the ticket was the winning ticket. Which I think is probably enough to stop her being prosecuted. Lack of evidence. To attempt to defraud the lottery you have to make a claim.
Was it a coincidence that the washed ticket had the correct numbers? How did that happen? The ticket must've been bought after the draw. Why do you think she did that? People are often prosecuted for planning illegal activity, or conspiring to commit illegal activity, long before they do it.



TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
TTmonkey said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Exactly. "This might be the winning ticket" when she knows damn well it isn't is an attempt to obtain money by deception.
She says she's never made a claim. She said she had a ticket which had been washed, and she asked Camelot if it was the winning ticket. She apparently never made an official claim that the ticket was the winning ticket. Which I think is probably enough to stop her being prosecuted. Lack of evidence. To attempt to defraud the lottery you have to make a claim.
Was it a coincidence that the washed ticket had the correct numbers? How did that happen? The ticket must've been bought after the draw. Why do you think she did that? People are often prosecuted for planning illegal activity, or conspiring to commit illegal activity, long before they do it.
Oh we all know what she's done and why, but if she hasn't made a claim then she hasn't made a claim. Buying ingredients to build a bomb and planning terrorists attacks is against specific laws, however proof is still required. We all know she bought the ticket after the event and deliberately damaged it, but unless she confesses to this, where is the proof?


She' should go to jail for being visually offensive at least....


Edited by TTmonkey on Thursday 28th January 21:08

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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^ there are some unintelligent council fraudsters around. They should set up a 'bait van' with boxes of crotchless knickers and shut the doors when she's clambered in to nick some.

Digger

14,669 posts

191 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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TTmonkey said:
Oh we all know what she's done and why, but if she hasn't made a claim then she hasn't made a claim. Buying ingredients to build a bomb and planning terrorists attacks is against specific laws. We all know she bought the ticket after the event and deliberately damaged it, but unless she confesses to this, where is the proof?


She' should go to jail for being visually offensive at least....
She sent the ticket off to Camelot for verification. Computer said No.

As far as I'm concerned, however you dress it up, that is the same as making a "claim".

TwigtheWonderkid

43,363 posts

150 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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A fiver says she's in the next Big Brother house. Or page 3 of the Sun with lotto balls covering her vitals.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
A fiver says she's in the next Big Brother house. Or page 3 of the Sun with lotto balls covering her vitals.